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	<title>Comments on: Evening Standard on &#8216;Muslim Boys&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Tego</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/02/03/evening_standard_on_muslim_boys#comment-4695</link>
		<dc:creator>Tego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a problem. You can choose to see it as an attack on Islam. Or you can choose to see it as a dangerous, easily mobile, heavily armed group of nothing-to-lose gangsters. I&#039;m born and bred in Brixton and I can tell you that this problem has been relavent for almost half a decade now. The religious aspect of the group is just a useful tag that they can wear. It&#039;s a young destructive mentality that adopts the tag (That has become a thing to fear in theis post-9/11 era. Unfortunately) They know what it does to local business&#039;, newspapers and policemen.

It&#039;s a shame but it needs dealing with. It may already be too late.....

Tego
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a problem. You can choose to see it as an attack on Islam. Or you can choose to see it as a dangerous, easily mobile, heavily armed group of nothing-to-lose gangsters. I&#8217;m born and bred in Brixton and I can tell you that this problem has been relavent for almost half a decade now. The religious aspect of the group is just a useful tag that they can wear. It&#8217;s a young destructive mentality that adopts the tag (That has become a thing to fear in theis post-9/11 era. Unfortunately) They know what it does to local business&#8217;, newspapers and policemen.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s a shame but it needs dealing with. It may already be too late&#8230;..</p>

<p>Tego</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?? You forgetting that in the article it mentions  they shot a f*cking police officer? A bit selective aint it? You chose you what to right. You sicken me.

You dont like the people that made that accusation? Well look at the facts. We are be-ing treated like shit and WE ARE THE ONES DOING THE VICTIMISING??

You need to look at the facts. FFS

I doubt the gang are Muslim,I have muslim friends. The chances are the gang are using the word &quot;Muslim&quot; to scare us but why carry out conversions then? Why carry MAC-10s about?

If you dis-agree remember you have freedom of speech, so do I.

Sorry for any views which are against the relegion.

-Anonymous
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?? You forgetting that in the article it mentions  they shot a f*cking police officer? A bit selective aint it? You chose you what to right. You sicken me.</p>

<p>You dont like the people that made that accusation? Well look at the facts. We are be-ing treated like shit and WE ARE THE ONES DOING THE VICTIMISING??</p>

<p>You need to look at the facts. FFS</p>

<p>I doubt the gang are Muslim,I have muslim friends. The chances are the gang are using the word &#8220;Muslim&#8221; to scare us but why carry out conversions then? Why carry MAC-10s about?</p>

<p>If you dis-agree remember you have freedom of speech, so do I.</p>

<p>Sorry for any views which are against the relegion.</p>

<p>-Anonymous</p>
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		<title>By: wff</title>
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		<dc:creator>wff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#039;ve splatted out all the swear words, but I thought it necessary to show that there are some people who have this sort of attitude.

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(CAIR)Council on American-Islamic Relations, say&#039;s Hate hurts.
Having Your throat cut hurts,
having your head cut off hurts,
bleeding to death hurts, being killed by a bomb hurts, being raped hurts, being beat hurts...you f**king c**ts.
You need to be bitch slaped untill your blind. You Muslim males are pathetic.
You C**ts, you say Hate hurts.
Having Your throat cut hurts,
having your head cut off hurts,
bleeding to death hurts, being killed by a bomb hurts, being raped hurts, being beat hurts...you f**king c**ts.
Muslim males are pathetic.

Shortly after the murders, members of the Egyptian consulate went to visit the family to encourage them to keep quiet. And many family members have obeyed, saying nothing to reporters or anyone else. However, two family members and another Copt viewed the bodies at the funeral home. One of these eyewitnesses said that he clearly saw that the family members had not suffered Ã¢ÂÂstab wounds to the throat,Ã¢ÂÂ as the prosecutorÃ¢ÂÂs report states, but rather the following:
A. Both adults, Hossam and Amal, had a horizontal slit across the throat. Below the slit, on the left, right and middle of the throat were three holes, big enough so that one could place a finger in each hole. According to the eyewitness, it was as if the assailant(s) took a knife and turned it repeatedly in a circular fashion, as if to screw holes into the victimsÃ¢ÂÂ necks.

B. The two young girls, Sylvia (15) and Monica (8), also had a horizontal slits in their throats, along with two holes bored below the slits, one on the right and one on the left sides of their necks. The holes were similar to those on their parentsÃ¢ÂÂ necks.

C. The eyewitness said although the bodies of the victims were all covered, he was able to see the arms of the little girl Monica. Although the tattoo of the cross inside MonicaÃ¢ÂÂs wrist was not defaced, he saw that her wrists were cut. He was not able to see the wrists of the other victims to see if the crosses on their wrists were defaced.

D. Though the family wants to reserve judgment until the results of the case are released, they did say that the way the four family members were bound and gagged and the way their throats were slit with holes carved is similar to executions that are shown on al-Jazeera. The American public is not aware of this because the details of the executions are not often described in news accounts.

Amal GarasÃ¢ÂÂs father said that (contrary to many news reports and CAIRÃ¢ÂÂs press release) none of the familyÃ¢ÂÂs jewelry was taken, and that Amal owned some quite expensive pieces that were not touched. At the time of her murder, Amal was wearing a ring worth $3,500 that was not taken
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<p>I&#8217;ve splatted out all the swear words, but I thought it necessary to show that there are some people who have this sort of attitude.</p>

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<p>(CAIR)Council on American-Islamic Relations, say&#8217;s Hate hurts.
Having Your throat cut hurts,
having your head cut off hurts,
bleeding to death hurts, being killed by a bomb hurts, being raped hurts, being beat hurts&#8230;you f<strong>king c</strong>ts.
You need to be bitch slaped untill your blind. You Muslim males are pathetic.
You C<strong>ts, you say Hate hurts.
Having Your throat cut hurts,
having your head cut off hurts,
bleeding to death hurts, being killed by a bomb hurts, being raped hurts, being beat hurts&#8230;you f</strong>king c**ts.
Muslim males are pathetic.</p>

<p>Shortly after the murders, members of the Egyptian consulate went to visit the family to encourage them to keep quiet. And many family members have obeyed, saying nothing to reporters or anyone else. However, two family members and another Copt viewed the bodies at the funeral home. One of these eyewitnesses said that he clearly saw that the family members had not suffered Ã¢ÂÂstab wounds to the throat,Ã¢ÂÂ as the prosecutorÃ¢ÂÂs report states, but rather the following:
A. Both adults, Hossam and Amal, had a horizontal slit across the throat. Below the slit, on the left, right and middle of the throat were three holes, big enough so that one could place a finger in each hole. According to the eyewitness, it was as if the assailant(s) took a knife and turned it repeatedly in a circular fashion, as if to screw holes into the victimsÃ¢ÂÂ necks.</p>

<p>B. The two young girls, Sylvia (15) and Monica (8), also had a horizontal slits in their throats, along with two holes bored below the slits, one on the right and one on the left sides of their necks. The holes were similar to those on their parentsÃ¢ÂÂ necks.</p>

<p>C. The eyewitness said although the bodies of the victims were all covered, he was able to see the arms of the little girl Monica. Although the tattoo of the cross inside MonicaÃ¢ÂÂs wrist was not defaced, he saw that her wrists were cut. He was not able to see the wrists of the other victims to see if the crosses on their wrists were defaced.</p>

<p>D. Though the family wants to reserve judgment until the results of the case are released, they did say that the way the four family members were bound and gagged and the way their throats were slit with holes carved is similar to executions that are shown on al-Jazeera. The American public is not aware of this because the details of the executions are not often described in news accounts.</p>

<p>Amal GarasÃ¢ÂÂs father said that (contrary to many news reports and CAIRÃ¢ÂÂs press release) none of the familyÃ¢ÂÂs jewelry was taken, and that Amal owned some quite expensive pieces that were not touched. At the time of her murder, Amal was wearing a ring worth $3,500 that was not taken</p>
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