New boarding schools for ‘troubled’ pupils

The Independent is reporting today that the Government intends to establish “prestigious” new boarding schools for troubled teenagers as part of plans to renovate run-down inner-city areas. A senior government advisor says that “at least one potential sponsor” has already been found to set up these new academies.

I find this story rather confusing, particularly these two paragraphs:

Official proposals for new academies, the flagship city schools which have the personal backing of Tony Blair, include setting up boarding houses that could cater for children from broken homes or in council care. Boarding academies fit in with Mr Blair’s vision of offering parents who are fed up with state schooling the type of provision they could expect in the independent sector.

So, are these to be schools offering education to public-school standard (public school here meaning élite private school), or a new batch of special boarding schools for troubled teenagers, the like of which many closed in the early 1990s, partly (allegedly) due to the John Major recession and partly due to the change of attitudes which took place at that time?

I’m rather worried by talk of moving back to the days of removing pupils from mainstream education, and from their families, into boarding schools. In the old days, not all the pupils sent to these boarding schools had unhappy or troubled home lives; far from it. Many of them (like me) had problems entirely affecting their school lives. Boarding schools may well make their problems worse; I fail to see why a city the size of London - or any other large city - cannot sustain at least one specialist school for pupils with social disabilities, whether or not it affects their academic work.

Second, these boarding schools were often run by private corporations, others by social ideologues or “visionaries”, the most famous being AS Neill and Otto Shaw (who founded, respectively, Summerhill and Red Hill boarding schools). Summerhill was featured in a notorious TV documentary in 1992 which portrayed it as being chaotic, which according to subsequent letters in the Guardian, was the result of its focus on a disturbed group of American pupils who weren’t there very long. In 1989 when my family was looking for a school for me after my disastrous two-day stint at a local two-bit private school (Winton, which closed in 1994, good riddance), we went to look at Red Hill having heard very positive reports about it. We weren’t impressed, and I saw a fight in a classroom.

The school to which I eventually did go was Kesgrave Hall in Suffolk. I had considerable apprehension about the school; for one thing, it was the least generous about weekends home (every three weeks), the dormitories were the old-style six-to-a-room rather than the bedrooms found at some of the other schools we looked at; I found the headmaster rather creepy and I suspect my mother did too (he and his wife have the same first names as my parents, a coincidence my mother found unpleasant), and I wasn’t impressed with the geography teacher’s quick-fire conversation style. I went to the school with as positive an attitude as I think was possible, something which was shattered in my first few days there.

I don’t think it’s worth boring you all with the details of everything that happened. I wasn’t seriously abused, but as I’ve mentioned before, I remember the stress of living there and not knowing whether people were going to be friendly or at my throat. There was also quite a bit of sexual harrassment in my first year there, and one of the boys who used to do this was later locked up for molesting young girls while babysitting them. The school hired a number of unsuitable staff and also took on unsuitable pupils, and on top of this it placed boys together in dormitories who really should not have been together. Quite a few things happened which would, in a proper school, have resulted in sackings and possibly criminal charges. These included public assaults on pupils and also overt racism, including from the deputy headmaster.

The school finally folded in 1994, having been sold as a “going concern” to a group who had supposedly taken over Red Hill as well. The company had the same name as the building in which Red Hill was situated. (I later discovered that they had not managed to take over Red Hill at all.) They ploughed much money into the school - for example, a full complement of new beds were delivered in 1993, to replace the school’s often terrible existing beds. I ignored all advice to stay, and I found out in early 1994 from two “old boys” who came to my door selling things, and by chance recognised me, that the school had folded a few months before. Years later, another old boy told me that social workers came to his house during the holidays and told him to come to the school with them to retrieve his belongings, as the school had gone bust. I never found out the full details, but I understand there were “dodgy dealings” and that the “new management” had disappeared.

I don’t record all of this to seek pity from any reader. The point is that I don’t want to see more schools of this type opening up - incompetently-run schools which often make people’s problems worse rather than better. It appears that they will be state schools rather than private schools, so anyone seeking employment will have to convince the education authorities that he is suitable. But how will they ensure that these schools don’t end up as places where the troubled teenagers’ problems simply feed off each other? How will they ensure that children are not unnecessarily sent miles out of their area, as happened to nearly all the people at my school? And what will happen if their private-sector sponsors suddenly go bust, legitimately or otherwise? I concede that these schools are not inherently destined to be dumps, and one of my friends from that school was quite impressed by a school of this type he visited as a potential employee. But they need to be kept under a very close eye, and they do need to listen to the pupils.

(I should add that Kesgrave Hall school as I knew it has nothing to do with the Ryes School organisation which now runs what I believe to be the fifth boarding school in the building’s history. They are a totally different group of people.)

Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...

Possibly Related Posts:


FacebookTwitterIdenti.caDeliciousDiggStumbleUponWordPressShare
PoliticsPermalink
  • AJ Connolly

    Interesting blog. I came across it today although I can’t remember how. Just one thing though - what led you to convert to Islam. I know this might be quite personal and perhaps that is why you havent written about it yet but if not I would like to hear about it.

  • cncz

    macha Allah nice entry. No quantitative goodness to add, just nice entry.

  • http://www.dvdr-core.org Alexander Hanff

    When did you attend Kesgrave? I remember Telford beating the shit out of me during activity week when we built the assault course and RC Track in the woods.

    I was there from 86-90

    Alexander Hanff

  • David Chase

    I was at Kesgrave Hall, or St Edmund’s House Shool, as I think it was then, in 1950. The headmaster was a Mr McClintock, who regularly beat the boys on their bare bottoms and organised the weighing of all pupils, naked, and in his study. He was a sinister character and the school was hopeless (for me anyway). It was owned by a Mrs Marshall. I would be interested to hear from anyone else who was at this school in the 1950’s.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Yusuf Smith

    Kesgrave Hall was a different school from St Edmunds; the only thing they had in common was the building. We still had the bell outside the front door (the “outside bell” which was rung about five minutes before the end of a break) which had the placard next to it about being donated to St Edmund’s school. KHS was supposedly for troubled but academically able boys and was set up by people who had worked at Heanton school near Barnstaple, Devon.

    The Ryes, incidentally, is (at least) the fifth boarding school in the building’s history. There were two in the 19th century, then St Edmund’s, then KHS, then the Ryes.

    Telford was one of a number of unpleasant and sometimes violent teachers and other staff at KHS. He assaulted a pupil in front of me in a maths lesson. The biology teacher was another; he assaulted me on two occasions in late 1989.

  • Ralph Gee

    Being at red Hill School from 1947 to 1953 I retained a great interest in it and Otto Shaw, and what followed. I think your observations on its closure are sheer garble. After closure in 1992 it was run as a similar thing by Kent County Council for more local children until its final demise. I suggest you contact either KCC or

    Allan Rimmer, Clerk to Red Hill Trust, Willow Cottage, Chapel Lane, Staplehurst, Kent TN12 0AN

    Tel 01580 891059 Fax 01622 844220 Email: awcebd@mistral.co.uk

    RED HILL TRUST.

    Red Hill School was founded in 1934 by Otto Shaw and served the needs of disturbed children until its closure in 1992. The Trust has replaced its original objectives with the agreement of the Charity Commission. It will continue to serve the needs of children with emotional and behavioural difficulties through the allocation of grants.

    You owe someone an apology. The least you could do before shooting off at the mouth is surf the web, where the above is easily found

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Yusuf Smith

    I have indeed contacted Alan Rimmer, and I don’t know how the facts as I stated them differ from what you say. Red Hill was situated in a building called Charlton Court, which I found out by surfing the web (you can find the reference here), which we were told by our headmaster was the name of the company which had bought out KHS on a three-year lease basis in 1993. We were under the impression that they had bought Red Hill too, hence the name. But as I later discovered, they hadn’t, and the school folded in mysterious circumstances early in 1994.

  • Ralph Gee

    When I sounded off earlier, the Red Hill official website was not accessible. It now has a new address, so for those who wish to see your opinions refuted on residential care for troubled children, and judge the undoubted success of red Hill School, visit:

    http://ca.geocities.com/redhill@rogers.com/

    The top-of-the-site also gives an accurate potted history of the use of Charlton Court since the First World War, and what has happened to it over the past two years.

  • Mark Phillips

    Hi Yusuf,

    I went to Kesgrave between 1978 and 1986. Yup that is eight years - my education authority, in their wisdom, decided I “wasn’t ready for the real world” after my second year at sixth form and I was retained for a third year.

    It sounds like you and I have similar experiences of Kesgrave, although I don’t recognise your name (when were you at Stalag Kesgrave btw?). My first Headmaster was Mr Sheppard (Shep to his “friends”) and when he retired to spain with his wife (matron) Mike Smith (known variously as MGS, M*ff Face - because of his goatee beard - and others) took over. I’ve read some interesting opinions of Mr Smith on the Friends reunited website. FWIW Smithy was (for me) a vast improvement over the previous incumbent.

    I find it interesting that you have strong religious beliefs - any chance of religion being important to me was beaten - metaphorically - out of me by KHS; what with the Baptist Church experiences and Little Bealings etc.

    I would be interested in swapping memories if you have the time (and if our “sentences” coincide).

    Mail me if you’re interested too…

    Mark P

  • martin smith

    hi i attended heanton school in 1969 and 1970 and have only good memories of my time there it seems i left just in time to read Mr k.j.kessler’s accounts of his time there makes me shudder. to think that roy lester used to cut my hair makes me feel that i had a lucky escape from martin smith

  • H Hall

    Also at the school in 1950s. Don’t agree with ‘Old Pa Chase’ that HM was sinister: he was a man of great moral rectitude, a scholar and gentleman. The school’s education got me a scholarship to my next place and gave me a start that has so far taken me to 4 universities…

  • Simon

    I was at Kesgrave - the beds were bought in 1976. We’re your mum and dad’s names John and trish ?

  • nick

    I attended Red Hill School from 1984 to 1988. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that attending a boarding school which could provide the level of support that was impossible in a day school was of tremendous benefit to me. I was a failing student within mainstream education, and was destined to leave school at 16 with few (if any) qualifications. The environment provided by Red Hill School ensured that I fulfilled my potential, went up to University, and am now enjoying a successful professional career coupled with a stable home life. Of course there were bad eggs (as there are in every school) and like any environment where people live closely together 24/7 there were flash points, but in my experience these were few and far between, and the self policing nature of the social structure of the school meant that incidents of bullying were very few and far between.

    As far as I am concerned it is impossible to apply a standard solution to children who are failing within mainstream education, and I don’t think that the appropriate solution has anything to do with whether or not the child has a troubled home life or not. For me the environment provided by a boarding school was successful ( I am sure that I would have failed at a specialist day school) and I am thankful that I had that opportunity…. something which, sadly, for many failing school children today is no longer available.

  • David Greenmoor

    I was at KHS from the mid 70’s to ‘79 - passing through the fifth year twice - as I entered a year ahead of myself.

    I have mixed memories of my time at Kesgrave. A fantastic setting; some excellent teachers - Mrs McGill, Miss Goodwin, Mr Richards, to name just three - as well as a mixed bunch. Mr Leonard could be a bit of a tyrant, but he turned me from an 11% maths mock O’level to an A* within a year, and I have lot of respect for him because of that. Mr Shepherd was good to me, apart from the beatings with the plimsol, which I deserved (e.g. nicking teachers fags from the staff room). Maybe I have rose-tinted 20-20 hindsight, but on balance I’m glad I went. I got my life straightened out, and now am successful and happy.

    There was stuff that went on, but in the circumstances, you kept your head down and did you time (although I did ‘break out’ a couple of times). Sorry to hear about your experiences, but this was a school for troubled kids and in those days it was probably easier for people who preyed on kids like that to gain access. One would hope it doesn’t still happen.

  • M Risbrook

    I used to work at Martlesham during the mid 80s and I can vaguely remember Kesgrave Hall School. Last year I met up with somebody who attended the school for a few years during the early 90s and told me a bit about it. I asked him what type of children attended Kesgrave Hall School. His reply was emotional and behavioural difficulties with a higher than average academic intelligence, but he didn’t think that was what the school was originally set up for. Some of the events that took place at the school were absolutely horrifying and totally inappropriate for children with SEN. I was particularly concerned at why the school wouldn’t allow children to go home at weekends during term time unless it was for a wedding or a funeral. Does anybody know if this was true or just a scare story to enforce discipline? Another worrying matter was the number of children having to repeat a year. Surely if the school catered for children of higher academic intelligence then the school would have offered them accelerated learning. There doesn’t appear to be much information about the school on the internet.

  • David Greenmoor

    We were occasionally allowed ‘exiats’ - weekends away as a privelege - although this was not a scare tactic, most of us did not live near the school as we were from all over the UK - hence parents or other relatives/carers would have to travel and collect you.

    As for the comment about repeating a year - I did, but only because I entered the school a year above my age - precisely the type of accelerated learning to which you allude - after completing humanities in my first year I was still too young to ‘leave’ so repeated the top year and bloomed in mathematics and the sciences. I’m happy with it.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    By the time I was there, the “exiats” were called nominated weekend, and happened on average every three weeks. (In my final year, they were every weekend for anyone who could and wanted to go.) People usually travelled home by train, not by car.

    As for people staying down, in my form it was nine out of 12, all of them (as far as I know) the right age for the form above. That’s what I was talking about.

  • andromache

    I’d like to endorse what Nick, ex-RedHill, has said above. I was there 1977-80, having refused to go to my secondary school any longer. The preferred term was ‘maladjusted boys’ and there was some selection (by interview) for good verbal ability, since otherwise it would have been difficult to cope with the self-governing structures run by the boys themselves. I can’t remember any actual bullying, though there were feuds between equals, and these usually ran their course after about a term. A certain amount of name-calling (I got some of it myself, being a loud-mouthed homo), including what our more touchy age would call racist abuse, but in those days the black boys just yelled back and felt all the better for it. I remember the mood as being fairly civilised, with quite mature friendships and a high level of what was called Community Spirit. Teaching was good if you wanted to take advantage of it; I didn’t pass any A levels, partly because of the teachers’ mistaken emphasis on the Syllabus rather than essay writing and exam technique (a secret that only posh schools seem to have stumbled on).But my curiosities and enthusiasms were encouraged, and I developed good if solitary study habits, and later did a PhD at a brand-name university. At mainstream school my VERY MILD dissent was treated as grand delinquency, I became a major ‘case’ for the education/social work apparatus, and I was heading for exclusion and the scrap-heap. Taking me out of school was the best thing, in the circumstances; butI share Yusuf’s concern about the feasibility of this on a large scale, and the basis for identifying the children you remove (consent had little to do with it, in my case - Redhill was presented as my Punishment).

  • G Johnstone

    I was at Heanton 74-77? and my memory isnt very good but from what i remember it was great there are a few names that i remember, the heat wave of 76 and silver jubilee of 77, i then moved to another school called Berrow wood WORC, no fond memorys, but do remember the cane and slipper and both mr wises and Mr Johnson. I now know that the above schools mentioned were for troubled boys who were not suited to home life or local schools.. but the outcome was damaging between myself and my parents

  • M Dixon

    Having read the above I wish my Son had spoken to me about conditions at the school and I would not have let him endure all those years. (He progressed to Kesgrave from Heanton in the early 80’s) It did not have a beneficial effect on his education as he finally walked out at 16 with no qualifications, which, for someone with above average IQ was very disappointing and shows the school did not manage to do its job. It also affected our relationship which I am happy to say we have worked through and he is now a very responible loving adult Son.

  • http://www.privateboardingschools.info/ Jack209

    This blog regarding boarding schools and high schools’ is really interesting. Boarding schools are very helpful in shaping the future of students.

  • Darren

    I Went to berrow wood school, Worcester from 1982 – 1985, school for maladjusted boys. With the school motto ‘your only rights here are to eat and breathe’ just about sums the place up! I think it was closed by the authorities some time later and so it should have been! Who in their right mind would sent a 12 year old boy with emotional difficulties to a place like that? Run by a bunch of thugs by the time I left Mr Morris was the head and you might have thought the children there had problems, Who punches a child with a fist? House masters well we all thought they must be x army or similar well we were only kids. I ran away when I was 15 after being sexually assaulted by one of them, I tried to tell the head, wow that was a mistake! So there we were nobody would believe a teenage thug was being assaulted by a member of staff would they, I never had a social worker call and ask me why I ran away, very few people knew, my parents let it ride they did not ask me why but they did not send me back either. What a time bomb waiting to go off when my own children got to the same age. When my eldest child got to 12 years old he had problems at school, something to do with an older student, preteen sex talk and similar. The social services who could not could not open a door without an instruction book. An abuse allegation that nobody wants to admit to making, a school file that I have been refused access to. 23 years I spent trying to forget, trying to get on with life without any qualifications etc… My wife knew, she ran off left me with 2 children. IT ALL CAME BACK LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. My mind was really stuffed dreaming about it putting my children in the same place. Funny odd thing , after I told the social services after suffering a nervous breakdown they couldn’t run away quick enough. Well close our cases now, let’s sweep it under the carpet like nothing happened. Oh you can’t see your sons file, he has to ask for it and we have to be sure it’s for him and not for you! Moral of my input ‘if you want a job done properly do it yourself’ the system only looks after the system.

  • richy innes

    i too went to berrow wood and was phyically abused by mr morris,then deputy head.also by other staff. the treatment of pupils was appaling to say the least.i reported it to my educational welfare officer who at the time tried to look into it.but i was expelled before i could report anymore abuse to the authorities,i also ran away in the middle of the night in pyjamas with a plaster cast on my leg from ankle to hip.in the freezing fog and gave myself up to the police who i told of my beatings and awful treatment,who did not believe me and i was dragged back kicking and screaming.i have read that some of the staff were later arrested for assault etc on pupils inc.mr morris and jailed.good may he rot in hell!!!!!

  • lee moorey

    i to was at berrow wood school 1985 to 87 i forget alot of the names but i do remember mr morris and that wife of his and that son of them coz he dragged me back from surrey wen i ran away thay did not think i had the balls to run away thay all thoght i was in the farm shed in the fild.i remember little things pervert staff who i cant put names to but remeber the face in my head,1 teacher i holiday wen i could not go home took 3 of us to western super mear and tryed to get us drunk and have sex with us i cant remeber his name but i do remember he used to go to holland a lot and he slepet in 1 of the dorms the 1 wen you come in the main gate its the dorm in front of you above wot i think was the computer room and the boot room if you was ever at that school plz feel free to call me.lee 07765281513

  • lee moorey

    i allso went to boarding school in london in 1980 to 1985 the edward rudolf school it was a lovely school and i still miss it to this day sadly it was shut down in 1985 lack of funds hence why i was sent to berrow wood school

  • del

    Hi Darren i was at Berrow wood the same time as you was my name is derek huntley feel free to contact me

  • ste bilsborough

    i went to berrow wood in the eighties. i remember mr morris,mr wise and his arsehole of a son.the big fella some of you mention was a peado.i also remember a housemaster who was a jock.he was an alcoholic.would love to chat with 81/82.anyone who was there around 81/82.

  • gary caunter

    i went to berrowood school from 1978 to 1981,i remember mr morris,jonston,peter wise,my house master was mr quinn,who was a good footballer,also remember mr dixson wood work teacher,mr griffiths who has died 2 years ago………bye

  • S. Peirson

    Seems the emphasis has been taken off of KHS (Kesgrave Hall School), and I would like to return to the subject of life at this establishment. I was a “student” there between 1983 & 1986. I was interviewed by the then Headmaster, Mr. Sheppperd, though when I started the school, Mr. “Muff” Smith had taken the job! Think I would have prefered Mr Shepperd! As I understand it, I was a maladjusted person, who failed to “fit in” whether in social or educational circumstances. I think “they” might have been right. Before KHS, I failed to excell in school, even though my IQ suggested otherwise, I was pretty much a loner, who found making friends a big problem, and I was a future criminal………………. unless I received the correct education. Hence the 3 year sentence to Kesgrave!!!!!!! I did a runner not long after my sixteenth birthday. NO-ONE, asked why! No social worker ever came and asked why I did a runner, even though it was those bastards that deemed that school an acceptable place for me to attend. It was the only place offered. Muff Smith can rot in hell, every time I smell cigar smoke, I think of him! If I ever see Mr. Telford again, I will punch him in the face, He did that to me when I was 14! Mr. Simpson, well he was just a twat who figured he was bigger. There were decent staff, Mr and Mrs Kenworthy, the House Parents, Mr. Johnson, a House carer, Mrs. Brunning, Secretary, Mrs. Goodwin, geography, Miss Stegman, biology. There are other staff who were ok too, its just my memories are clouded by all the grief I got from the other staff, who were meant to care! Sorry if this comment is long winded, just good to get these feelings off my chest once in a while. Thanks for taking the time to read.

  • Denis Unwin

    Attended Berrow wood from age 11 to 16 1974~1979. Jesus christ that place was Hell on Earth. I remember the place and people well, it has left me emotionally “Scarred” and to this very day, suffer from “flash backs”. I have been on anti~depressants since 1993. I can honestly say that I was NEVER sexually abused there, but definately emotionally scarred! Bullying and abuse was rife there, not only by the inmates but also the staff. It just DOES NOT work having maladjusted kids alongside children who are constant bullies and thieves and anti social behaviour. During my time there, a few staff were sacked for Child Molestation. I cannot remember all the names of these perverts but Mr. Wells was one of them. The only way to survive in that Hell hole was to be grade 1, which I can safely say, I was all my years there!!! I remember Mr.Wise & his son, Mr. Morris, Mr. Johnston, Mr. Griffiths, Mr. Brown & his wife, Mr. Phillips, Mr.Dixon, many faces in my head, but cannot remember the names. The only good thing I can say is that from a very early age, you are taught to be self efficient and respectfull. I remember MANY inmates there, but far too many to list here. There were some good ones, but many if not most, were absolute bastards!(you know who you are!)So…..the place got closed down did it? I wonder what it is now?…..Maybe a run down lunatic asylum!!!

  • Denis Unwin

    Here I am again…After writing the above yesterday, I was all “put about” the whole day, and floods of unhappy memories tormented me, infesting my mind like a disease, which is why I felt compelled to return to this bullitin board again! I feel I must continue with my feelings here, as people needs to know the TRUTH about this Hell hole. Yes….a very beautifull house indeed, BUT a house of HELL!!! Serious questions needs to be asked as to WHY this house of hell existed for as long as it did???…and WHY were there NEVER any thorough checks and inspections of the premises???…and WHY was the house master staff not properly checked and vetted??? Berrow wood boarding school was a paedophile’s wet dream, and the owners of the premises just turnt a blind eye on the abuse and disgusting activity which took place there. In the 70’s this behaviour was all “hush hush” so to speak. These days, this would NOT be tollerated. But jesus christ…the memories are flooding back again, and NOT happy ones. Do you see what I mean here regarding the long term psychlogical trauma and effect that this house of hell has had on me??? Remember the film “Scum”??? Well that is about Berrow Wood!!! That is the harsh reality of the place. I am VERY interested to find out what has happened to pupils that went there, and how they have turnt out. It would be fantastic to maybe arrange a meeting of fellow pupils of that Hell hole, where we can all see each other now we are all adults, and exchange our experiences and discuss our lives since leaving that dreaded place. I would be very happy to arrange something, no problem. If any of you are interested then PLEASE contact me. Surely I am not the only one who has suffered psychlogical trauma all these years??? During my 5 year sentence there, there was a certain individual, a pupil by the name of “Jan Rimmer” from High Wycombe, who ALWAYS used to brag & praise how fantastic Berrow wood is, he absolutely loved the fucking place!!! Well Mr. Jan fucking Rimmer….You were THEE ONLY ONE!!! Yeah, the Disco boy who loved the pathetic film “Nightfever”, who was always seen in the games room strutting his stuff & boogeeing on down, you sad individual!!! Just shows your mentallity doesn’t it eh. Yes I can still see you now all them years ago, with your travolta hair cut….Jesus christ, you were a tosser mate. Anyway, sorry about that, just floods of memories infesting my mind still. But like I say, if anyone is interested in getting together for a meeting & a coffee, then please do not hesitate in contacting me. Don’t worry, I’m NOT a bad person, I was only explaining the ONLY individual in all my years there who “Loved” the place!!!(I shake my head in disbelief!) But what has happened to everyone who went there? This is VERY interesting to find out. I hope that pupils that attended the House of Hell will eventually read all that I have written, for it is the truth. The premises may have closed down………but the trauma & psychlogical scarrs NEVER go away, they are always there to haunt you.

  • http://www.fieldstoneacademy.org richel

    Yes I agree that there are worries that you wouldn’t find a friend,there are also hesitations in going to a boarding school.But definitely it has positive effects also it will make you learn responsibility above all.

  • LeedsLad

    You are a survivor D Unwin, I hope you go on to do well for yourself and others.

  • Ed Austin

    Berrow Wood School…. well Mr Johnson was a fair decent man and was headmaster when I was an inmate. However when I left (81) I believe Mr “Psycho” Morris became Head Master…. jeez man that must have been a NIGHTMARE. The Guy was a total sadist.. as was Mr Dixon… my teacher (CSE Class) was a Maths Guy… he was OK… Mr Quinn was sound as well… Mr Carvell was an decent guy… Mr Kruitoff was OK’ish… as for inmates… my old mates Russell Southgate, Chris (forgot last name), Dorian Hamer … all decent lads…. but the school was like a Warzone… In my time 79-81 a few bullies but most of the kids were just trying to survive the staff!!!! Keep up the spirit lads!! PS. Mr Morris and a few others jailed in late 80’s for child cruelty!!!! So there is Karma!!!

  • Ed Austin

    Well… to add to the above… I finally graduated from Edinburgh University B.Sc. Engineering Sciences back in 92, worked as a Management Consultant - but have always maintained a healthy distrust in Pseudo Intellectual Socialist do-gooders (as did Mrs T!) - the kind of people who sent me to Berrow in the first place! The School offered no intellectual encouragement beyond a façade of preparing boys for the old CSE qualifications (and then only a selected few). Finally entered Uni 5 years behind my contemporaries. Screw Berrow Wood Lads!

  • philip scrivin

    Denis Unwin i was at Berrow wood the same time as you was my name is philip scrivin

  • Michael Guilfoyle

    Hi all,

    Very interesting…. I was just surfing the net and though I would do a search on Berrow Wood School. To see if it has be thrust under the carpet like everything else to do with that school, and to my surprise there are still some fighting spirits out there.

    My name is Michael Guilfoyle. (Now Michael Gallagher) I was a pupil at Berrow Wood School from around 1983-84 until around 1987

    I was part of around 300 defendants who participated in a court case that was aimed against the school. I was the last one who kept the case going up to the Court of European Human rights.

    I watched Philip Grey, Larner, amongst others sentenced for their part in the abuse.

    The only person who was left out of the mess was Mr. Peck (Photographer) Who in my opinion was up against it like the rest of us…

    Unfortunately and due to timing and politics my case was finally stopped due to politics and worry from the institution that it would create a floodgate of similar complaints etc…

    Anyway the point being that there has never really been closure for individuals who attended the school, forget about the individuals who state that the school was great. I am not sure what kind of mind set they have or what kind of individuals they turned out to be, however the pain of that school has never really left me and that is why I am writing a book about this experience.

    Please understand it is not case of raking up the past and blaming current circumstances on this experience, rather it is going to be work that will hopefully assist others in identifying the tell-tale signs of a possible problem.

    This includes so-called social workers and expert care professionals that are supposed to be qualified in this arena. Unfortunately I have no time for these people as I believe the people that we can learn from are the ones that have been there and can express themselves so that we can all add parts to a puzzle and together present to the institution through public media our story.

    If you have interest in this, please let me know. You can contact me through the following email: bangkok@pen-2-paper.biz

    Would like to hear from some of my old mates if still around, Paul Carter King, Mathew Luendon plus others

    Mike Gallagher

  • Denis Unwin

    Philip scrivin….The name rings a bell, but I cannot picture you, but yeah your name rings a bell definately! How the bloody hell are ya mate??? How has your life turnt out???

  • Denis Unwin

    In response to Michael Guilfoyle….That is definately a good Idear compiling & writing a book about your experiences of Berrow wood. There are MANY people who has to know the truth, and more Importantly……Many answers need to be given as to why this establishment ran for as long as it did??? The obvious reason was a money making scam. Good luck with your creativity & I wish you all the best. Do not hesitate to contact me if you desire to do so. After all, I spent 5 long years there!!!

  • Denis Unwin

    One thing is for sure……Whoever & whatever takes over the property at Berrow wood, it shall forever be haunted from the past. Faint “whispers” will be heard in the corridors and where the “lock up room” used to be, will always be a “Cold spot” in the property. The past has left its mark, even if I was rich, I would not purchase it due to its reputation. That house would make an excellent set for an atmospheric psychological disturbed film!!! Now were talking business!!!

  • Darren

    Michael Guilfoyle / berrow wood school When you have written your book please tell us, or for that matter let some of us have some input. I’m not going to name names but I was there from 82 - 85 and suffered abuse from staff and run away as a result in 85 age 15.

  • G Johnstone

    Hi again and just sifting through various names i was there from 77/78 to 81/2 and and i now remember mr kruitoff he was the fat dutch twat who has a ford taunus and a bit of a bully boy,mr griffiths who dealt with all the chickens, mr quinn who smoked woodbines and was a celtic supporter, and i cant remember her name but she was a south african blonde teacher in her 50,s and she were lovely, now mr johnson who was the headmaster and he died in the early nineties, but to be honest he was a fair headmaster, i remember going to his office for the slipper across my ass and i would have a magazine down me pants and would have gotten away with it if i hadnt sniggered on my way out of his office…. yes i remember jan rimmer/alan horseman/micheal davey/chris payne/russel southgate just too name but a few but we werent names, we were NUMBERS, i have recently been in touch with a chap you may recal him as kurt manley and he remembers most of the number with names.. and yes berrowwood was for me a learning curve and gateway for the future, it helped me pave a path to hate my parents,and take the road that no normal kid would dare take complete with care order until i was 18,then i travelled to hell and back and it was great, it was stand up against those who want to hurt me (physicaly/mentally),Hate the system, basically FTW and all those in the system…

  • G Johnstone

    Hi again and just sifting through various names i was there from 77/78 to 81/2 and and i now remember mr kruitoff he was the fat dutch twat who has a ford taunus and a bit of a bully boy,mr griffiths who dealt with all the chickens, mr quinn who smoked woodbines and was a celtic supporter, and i cant remember her name but she was a south african blonde teacher in her 50,s and she were lovely, now mr johnson who was the headmaster and he died in the early nineties, but to be honest he was a fair headmaster, i remember going to his office for the slipper across my ass and i would have a magazine down me pants and would have gotten away with it if i hadnt sniggered on my way out of his office…. yes i remember jan rimmer/alan horseman/micheal davey/chris payne/russel southgate just too name but a few but we werent names, we were NUMBERS, i have recently been in touch with a chap you may recal him as kurt manley and he remembers most of the number with names.. and yes berrowwood was for me a learning curve and gateway for the future, it helped me pave a path to hate my parents,and take the road that no normal kid would dare take complete with care order until i was 18,then i travelled to hell and back and it was great,this also taught me to stand up against those who want to hurt me (physicaly/mentally),basically FTW and all those in the system…

  • G Johnstone

    Hi again and just sifting through various names i was there from 77/78 to 81/2 and and i now remember mr kruitoff he was the fat dutch twat who has a ford taunus and a bit of a bully boy,mr griffiths who dealt with all the chickens, mr quinn who smoked woodbines and was a celtic supporter, and i cant remember her name but she was a south african blonde teacher in her 50,s and she were lovely, now mr johnson who was the headmaster and he died in the early nineties, but to be honest he was a fair headmaster, i remember going to his office for the slipper across my ass and i would have a magazine down me pants and would have gotten away with it if i hadnt sniggered on my way out of his office…. yes i remember jan rimmer/alan horseman/micheal davey/chris payne/russel southgate just too name but a few but we werent names, we were NUMBERS, i have recently been in touch with a chap you may recal him as kurt manley and he remembers most of the number with names.. and yes berrowwood was for me a learning curve and gateway for the future, it helped me pave a path to hate my parents,and take the road that no normal kid would dare take complete with care order until i was 18,then i travelled to hell and back and it was great,this also taught me to stand up against those who want to hurt me (physicaly/mentally),basically FTW and all those in the system… now i am going off the subject but the reason for this reply was the shool is now a private house, the recreaction building is gone, and the boot room/ class room/ come alley way is all gone, as i say its a private house, i did call roughly about 1995 on my way down the country… also there is a website with loads of names on which i think its called friends reunited and probably facebook… but i gotta say i am not bothered about getting in contact as it may dredge up some old skeletons, which could do damage..

  • Denis Unwin

    Thats right Gaz….We were all but just a number….not a person or a life or someones son. Like I say, the place had its very few good points. ie, self respect, how to look after ones self from an early age. But to put all them kids in that place with SO many different dissabillities & problems, walking side by side, & living together with thieves, bullies, disruptive psychological disturbed children & perverts, just DOES NOT work! The main building was a lovely tudor house though, elegant decor & stained glass windows. Would of made a brilliant atmospheric set for a Ghost or Psychological film though!!!

  • Denis Unwin

    Mmmmmm, dont know a Kurt Manley, but knew a Brian Manley there! What happened to him?????????Anyone know????????? & what about Roy Goff??????what happened with his life after he left?????? I bet none of you remember him! He’s way before YOUR time! The memories………the memories……the horror……!!!

  • M Risbrook

    I’m surprised that the owner of this blog is not involved in home education considering his unhappy experience at school.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    Involved in what way? I’m 33 and have no children to educate.

  • M Risbrook

    You don’t have to have children to participate in the home education community in one way or another. I know plenty of home education activists without children or have children that are no longer of school age. Some of which had unhappy or disappointing experiences of school themselves.

  • Pingback: Indigo Jo Blogs — Why wouldn’t you want to be autistic?

  • M Risbrook

    Careful, careful. Broad sweeping statements like that run the risk of being sued for libel.

  • M Risbrook

    Has the owner of this blog ever known or met the person who wrote the Forward to this article?

    http://www.aspergersupport.org.uk/news/a22.html

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    Yes, I was in the same class as him from 1990-93.

  • M Risbrook

    In that case the rumour must be true…

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    What rumour?

  • M Risbrook

    About you and your blog.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    I have no idea what you’re talking about.

  • M Risbrook

    I have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Everything will be revealed when the time is right.

    Another point I have to make about KHS is that a history teacher was an outright liar. Armoured cars were regularly used in WWI.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    There’s nothing to reveal, except a few small bits of tittle-tattle which nobody who knows me today will be interested in.

    As for the history teacher (there was only one of them, and after summer 1991 there was none), I’ve long forgotten whatever that little detail refers to. The hardware of WWI doesn’t interest me much now. (The poetry I remember rather more vividly.)

  • M Risbrook

    I will inform you that this very person scoured your blog earlier this year then, more recently, announced at a political meeting that your mind is wrecked by the mainstream media judging from the terminology used in your articles. Definitions and terminology is a subject that he has been very interested in from a young age.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    I don’t care what you or Riaz thinks about me. You are full of crap and, by the sound of things, so is he. So my head isn’t full of nonsense from the conspiracy fetishist community? That’s not a bad thing in my opinion. Oh, and he certainly wasn’t interested in that subject when I knew him.

  • africana

    @m risbrook, good grief so that’s what you class as a revelation, is it? next you’re going totell us that you do a line in graphology, too. drawing attention to something like lexical choice which the writer, being as this is blog, has made no attempt to hide seems like an odd sort of revelation.the language we use is hardly an exact science, anyway and is affected by many factors such as readership, upbringing and the company we keep.

  • M Risbrook

    the language we use is hardly an exact science, anyway and is affected by many factors such as readership, upbringing and the company we keep

    There’s certainly much truth to this…

    One thing that I have been aware of for many years is that the mainstream British press has a passion for using certain terms in political articles that are colloquial; imprecise; ambiguous; colourful or catchy but not necessarily accurate or meaningful; or those which officially violate the rules of English grammar.

    Even the title of this blog post contains one of these terms.

  • africana

    you and riaz do seem to be unacnnily similar..both nationalists, both with an interest in home education, both with a sceptical attitude toward the value of certificates of secondary education (as per riaz’s petition)and now it would seem with with people’s lexical choices.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    Africana: well spotted. I checked Risbrook’s domain name in the whois database, and it’s registered in Riaz Sobrany’s name to his home address; he uses “info@ ” that domain name, an address normally used by the site owner. I had been wondering if they were the same person for some time.

  • M Risbrook

    I can assure you that we are two separate people although we are both members of Dissident Congress and a few other political groups. Riaz is the domain name holder for at least a dozen functioning websites and holds many more inactive domain names that he may sell or use in the future. He never registers his websites to his home address because of the potential security risk involved. Instead he uses either his parent’s address or that of a commercial premises.

  • M Risbrook

    both nationalists

    With differences. I have always thought of myself as a straightforward traditional British nationalist who has never had any involvement with nationalists outside of Britain. I support Palestine but have never had anything to do with Palestinian activist movements.

    Riaz, on the other hand, has a stronger interest in the nationalism found in certain foreign countries including Iran, Russia, and parts of the Middle East. He has met nationalists from overseas countries on his travels. Something he has brought up more than once at meetings and on internet forums is establishing a Palestinian activist movement for nationalists in Britain.

    sceptical attitude toward the value of certificates of secondary education

    I disagree with this statement. It’s widespread knowledge in home education movements that around 8 years ago Riaz entered some kids he tutored for GCSEs as independent candidates and one 10 year old got an A grade. He currently has an interest in IGCSEs. They are the same as GCSEs but don’t have coursework.

  • jason chapman

    hello to all who went to berrow wood, i just thought i would cheer a few of you up by telling you that i beat up the headmaster Mr Morris in his own art room, i was only stopped proper battering him coz Alan Gorton came in and intervened. I later offered Gorton a chance at the title outside the dining room in front of the whole school and he wet his pants.Im so glad i started boxing back then lol. Indeed such is the nature of the bully mentality, i always found it fascinating which is why i got a degree in psychology. From Jay the bully killer lol

  • ken

    never heard of berrowood but im tryin to find out about the whereabouts of teachers who were at heanton school,a south african woodwork teacher mr.morris and his wife, tom bleasdale, mr hockley(headmaster) john downing. I have tried to find info on this place but it seems all info has been wiped from history(77-80) I really wanna track these people down..or any pupils who were there between those dates????

  • Russell Southgate

    Hi All. My name is Russell Southgate and attended Berrow Wood from 1978-1980 I had a cry whilst reading all this, and for those of you who knew me, that would surprise you. The lonelyness and fear of knowing that the people who are supposed to take care of you, are the ones that are hurting you. The mind numbing realisation that vulnerable children were being preyed upon and bullied on a day to day basis, just makes me so sad. I am 45 years old now and although the nightmares are only once or twice a year now, i still have nightmares about the place, waking up during the night sobbing uncontrolably. I have so many stories of the place that need to be told. I remember the guys that have mentioned my name on the responses above and many many others. I will return to write more in a few days. Reading all this has left me a little emotional. So……… “Be Strong”, because we “Survived” but must carry the scars forever. “The Berrow Wood Survivors Society”

  • Del Huntley

    Hi all Do you remember me Derek huntley Mike if you need imput for this book let me know. I was there at the same time as you. I used to hang around with Paul noakes. I always used to be fighting with Sean Parks. Please get intouch even for a chat any one of you. As for Gary Jonstone I can back up all said by you. Lets all have a get together

    Del

  • Del Huntley

    I forgot to put my email on here delhuntley@gmail.com

  • Andrew Holder

    I was a pupil at Berrow Wood School from Thursday 5th January 1967 to Wednesday 29th March 1972 and also I was being bullied a lot when I was there and also I remember that very well that used to make us changed our underpants and socks,etc ONCE A WEEK

  • M Gale

    Oh wow, Berrow Wood. My fondest memory, asides the almost ritual abuse?

    Probably when a couple of lads were planning on doing a runner and that bald headed so-and-so Phil Gray decided that everyone is going to bed naked for the next two weeks.

    Yes seriously, stripped naked every evening and you got your clothes back in the morning.

    I was there when the place got shut down. The worst part is that being in a place like that screws with your mind. Of course we were little shits, of course there was no place out there better for us! Hell, when the social services came to take a few of the kids away before the Summer hols that year, some of them were legging it into the 48 acres of woodland to hide.. Stockholm syndrome or what?

    That place was pure evil.

  • gary johnston

    1st time on i was it school from 82-85 it all right what you lot say am sad now

  • Andrew Holder

    I remember that all the shoe checks we had at Berrow Wood School,because of some of lads kept on hiding other peoples footwear from time to time

  • ken

    where the hell are the comments from myself and keith kessler gone??? dont tell me that this place is bein monitored by someone who cant stomache the truth!! unless it concerns them that is

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    I think you’ll find they’re on another entry, Disruptive Children and Special Schools.

  • Byron Cooper

    I was at Berrowwood school….. 78 to 81 number 72 malvern (red tie)…..slept in all the dorms in them years, 13 over morris’s classroomdamm even shared with alan horseman once…..friends well….had a few lol… i remember the night watchman riding that yellow moped, morris, miss de’plurney, griffis, johnsons, wises…worked in his garden many a occasion….saw mr wise a few yrsa back in tewkberry market….we all worked in the kichen or laundry room at some point …. and slaved out to local farmer to pick weeds out of the crops…… still it beat drain clearing outside the wall…..just a note to all i’m still about(alive and kicking)…. yes there were some bad times….and good….its what we made it……like mr tennent….would light a ciggarete, so some would not ger caught smoking…the woods, malvern walks..ect…. mr carvel used to look after our 85p pocket money…had a little note pad in pocket…. fire drill……..why go to the class hallway….it was made of wood ????….i have good and bad memoires….the place toughened me upfor the big world out there…..drop me a note.. would like to hear from some school numbers………… texas_13@hotmail.co.uk

  • Mr A Holder

    some of the staff when I was at Berrow Wood School were nasty

  • Catherine Caunter

    i was there 1978 to 1982 gary caunter,the school has new houses on it now