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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/07/28/cherie_blair_an_embarrassment#comment-5763</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 07:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrots wrote:  &quot;I know youÃ¢ÂÂre Singaporean, and therefore know a bit about Malaysia...&quot;

Actually, I&#039;m an American living in Singapore.  Yes, I do know a bit about Malaysia, having visited there several times and, as you know, much of your news is our news (and prolly vice versa, too).


&quot;...but even I, as a Malaysian, think that the ISA is taking things a bit too far.&quot;

Actually, I never said anything regarding the ISA.  That was Ann&#039;s comment.  I&#039;m not knowledgeable enough about the Malaysian ISA to make a comment.


&quot;And we honestly donÃ¢ÂÂt have enough democracyÃ¢ÂÂno free media, too much corruption, a lot of cover ups etc. etc. etc. ItÃ¢ÂÂs very disheartening having to say things like this about oneÃ¢ÂÂs own country, but there you go.&quot;

Yes, Malaysia has problems politically, socially, etc., just as every other country does.  I have no problem with you criticizing your own country; heck, I frequently criticize my own government (try reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://dunner99.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my blog&lt;/a&gt;; &quot;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&quot; - Thomas Jefferson).  But my fear was that Yusuf, who otherwise writes a very nice blog, may be making unfounded criticisms against Malaysia&#039;s democracy.  Malaysia isn&#039;t the UK, and it&#039;s never going to be.  If you take one aspect of your criticism - no free media - we both know that Malaysia&#039;s press and the British press are never going to be at the same level in the foreseeable future, with or without government restrictions.  But on a fundamental level, Malaysia&#039;s democracy is, IMO, at a similar level to that of the UK&#039;s.  And if you want to go one step further, I&#039;d be willing to say, in a paraphrase of Brother Yusuf&#039;s sentence, &quot;ItÃ¢ÂÂs true that the UK or Malaysia does not have the same level of democracy that the US enjoys.Ã¢ÂÂ

But that&#039;s my American bias against parliamentary-style governments speaking. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrots wrote:  &#8220;I know youÃ¢ÂÂre Singaporean, and therefore know a bit about Malaysia&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>Actually, I&#8217;m an American living in Singapore.  Yes, I do know a bit about Malaysia, having visited there several times and, as you know, much of your news is our news (and prolly vice versa, too).</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8230;but even I, as a Malaysian, think that the ISA is taking things a bit too far.&#8221;</p>

<p>Actually, I never said anything regarding the ISA.  That was Ann&#8217;s comment.  I&#8217;m not knowledgeable enough about the Malaysian ISA to make a comment.</p>

<p>&#8220;And we honestly donÃ¢ÂÂt have enough democracyÃ¢ÂÂno free media, too much corruption, a lot of cover ups etc. etc. etc. ItÃ¢ÂÂs very disheartening having to say things like this about oneÃ¢ÂÂs own country, but there you go.&#8221;</p>

<p>Yes, Malaysia has problems politically, socially, etc., just as every other country does.  I have no problem with you criticizing your own country; heck, I frequently criticize my own government (try reading <a href="http://dunner99.blogspot.com/">my blog</a>; &#8220;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&#8221; - Thomas Jefferson).  But my fear was that Yusuf, who otherwise writes a very nice blog, may be making unfounded criticisms against Malaysia&#8217;s democracy.  Malaysia isn&#8217;t the UK, and it&#8217;s never going to be.  If you take one aspect of your criticism - no free media - we both know that Malaysia&#8217;s press and the British press are never going to be at the same level in the foreseeable future, with or without government restrictions.  But on a fundamental level, Malaysia&#8217;s democracy is, IMO, at a similar level to that of the UK&#8217;s.  And if you want to go one step further, I&#8217;d be willing to say, in a paraphrase of Brother Yusuf&#8217;s sentence, &#8220;ItÃ¢ÂÂs true that the UK or Malaysia does not have the same level of democracy that the US enjoys.Ã¢ÂÂ</p>

<p>But that&#8217;s my American bias against parliamentary-style governments speaking. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Carrots</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/07/28/cherie_blair_an_embarrassment#comment-5762</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD,

I know you&#039;re Singaporean, and therefore know a bit about Malaysia, but even I, as a Malaysian, think that the ISA is taking things a bit too far. And we honestly don&#039;t have enough democracy--no free media, too much corruption, a lot of cover ups etc. etc. etc. It&#039;s very disheartening having to say things like this about one&#039;s own country, but there you go.

Cheers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD,</p>

<p>I know you&#8217;re Singaporean, and therefore know a bit about Malaysia, but even I, as a Malaysian, think that the ISA is taking things a bit too far. And we honestly don&#8217;t have enough democracy&#8212;no free media, too much corruption, a lot of cover ups etc. etc. etc. It&#8217;s very disheartening having to say things like this about one&#8217;s own country, but there you go.</p>

<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/07/28/cherie_blair_an_embarrassment#comment-5761</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two comments:

&quot;Phillips is complaining that Cherie Booth is defending the human rights of alleged terrorists in Malaysia, which is not exactly known for its respect for human rights.&quot;

If you believe what Phillips says about Malaysia&#039;s respect for human rights, then you&#039;ve swallowed her bias whole.


&quot;ItÃ¢ÂÂs true that Malaysia does not have the same level of democracy that we enjoy here in the west.&quot;

Actually, what&#039;s true is that Malaysia *does* have the same level of democracy that you enjoy in the West.  After all, Malaysia follows *the British* system of democracy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments:</p>

<p>&#8220;Phillips is complaining that Cherie Booth is defending the human rights of alleged terrorists in Malaysia, which is not exactly known for its respect for human rights.&#8221;</p>

<p>If you believe what Phillips says about Malaysia&#8217;s respect for human rights, then you&#8217;ve swallowed her bias whole.</p>

<p>&#8220;ItÃ¢ÂÂs true that Malaysia does not have the same level of democracy that we enjoy here in the west.&#8221;</p>

<p>Actually, what&#8217;s true is that Malaysia <em>does</em> have the same level of democracy that you enjoy in the West.  After all, Malaysia follows <em>the British</em> system of democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalaamu alaikum,

Cherie might wat to get out of Downing Street to be able to make a lot of money without being questioned about it, too. She was mightily criticized for charging for pretty boring speeches in several countries lately.

By the way, isn&#039;t Malaysia&#039;s Internal Security Act a remnant of British colonial law?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalaamu alaikum,</p>

<p>Cherie might wat to get out of Downing Street to be able to make a lot of money without being questioned about it, too. She was mightily criticized for charging for pretty boring speeches in several countries lately.</p>

<p>By the way, isn&#8217;t Malaysia&#8217;s Internal Security Act a remnant of British colonial law?</p>
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		<title>By: bikhair</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/07/28/cherie_blair_an_embarrassment#comment-5759</link>
		<dc:creator>bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so out of touch with British politics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so out of touch with British politics.</p>
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