Shock horror! Schools turning into madrassas!

Keeping up - or rather down - their usual record, the Evening Standard today published an article “exposing” the poor quality and aloofness from the wider community of the UK’s Muslim faith schools (not on the web; pages 16 and 17 of print edition). The article makes a number of serious accusations about some of the UK’s “Darul-Uloom” institutions, as well as a few tired old contentions from the secular lobby.

Arabic speakers might find this rather funny, because madrasa is simply Arabic for school. I’m not sure in what languages this is also true; in English, it seems to have acquired the meaning of Islamic religious school. In this article, it is also used with a derogatory tone: if a school fits the stereotype of a place where kids rock back and forth while reciting the Qur’an in an apparently chaotic manner, as on the apparent library footage we commonly see on TV, it’s a madrassa.

The article, by Andrew Gilligan (who left the BBC after the Hutton report) starts off with discussion of the al-Sadiq and al-Zahra schools which are on a certain road in west London with at least four such schools along it. One of them is a state Islamic school. He appears not to realise that al-Sadiq and al-Zahra are two separate schools; Sadiq is masculine and Zahra feminine, one being a boys’ and the other a girls’ school. Both are Shi’a schools run by the followers of Imam Khu’i of Iraq, who was murdered by Saddam Hussain, something which Gilligan omits to mention. He acknowledges that the schools, in which the Islamic part of the curriculum is 10% of the total, have excellent results.

Gilligan then raises the idea of faith schools dividing communities, “creating a series of separate, segregated cultures with potentially serious consequences for the future”. He brings in the entirely different situation of northern Ireland, in which a Protestant community was established by planting Scottish settlers. The two communities have been in on-off conflict since the late 19th century, when Catholics demanded an Irish state, which Protestants (rightly) feared would end up being dominated by the church. Schools had nothing to do with bringing about that situation. He also solicits the opinion of Keith Porteous Wood of the National Secular Society who makes the strange suggestion that society won’t learn to live with Muslims unless they go to school together.

Most of the second page of Gilligan’s article is devoted to an attack on the specifically religious schools, which he places at the bottom of the ladder of Muslim teaching establishments. “It’s not only Pakistan that has madrassas. Britain has them, too.”

This section contains a series of scaremongering false links. For example, we are told that Dewsbury, “home of one of the suicide bombers”, is the site of the Institute of Islamic Education, with its “madrassa-type curriculum” dominated by religious subjects, and even the teaching of secular subjects was “madrassa-like, relying on the memorisation and rote-learning of textbooks”. We then learn:

Children were not allowed to read corrupt English newspapers or watch decadent Western TV. GCSE results, not surprisingly, were dreadful: only 9 per cent of 16-year-olds at the institute got five good GCSEs [the standard certificate of education, usually taken at age 16] last year, the joint second worst score of any conventional school in the country.

The juxtaposition of shielding from TV and the media and bad exam results cannot go without comment! It is, after all, the TV which is widely blamed for the decline in literacy and social skills among the youth of today. The students at the IIE could string a sentence together, could they not? In perhaps three languages?

The worst ordinary school is apparently Darul Uloom London, actually located “in attractive leafy grounds down a lane in suburban Chislehurst”, only 8% of whose 16-year-old students got five or more GCSEs at A to C grade last year:

It teaches a medieval curriculum, largely in Arabic or Urdu, inspired by the puritanical Islamic movement of Deobandism - which also happens to be the ideological inspiration for the Taliban. The Taliban was born in Darul Ulooms such as the one in Haqqania, Pakistan, alma mater of Taliban leader Mullah Omar and known as the “university of jihad”.

Darul Ulooms (I’m not sure about the London one) tend to teach the “dars-e nizami”, which is a curriculum which pre-dates the emergence of the Deobandi school in India by a long, long time. Gilligan wastes little time before moving from Darul Uloom London onto Deobandism and then onto the Taliban. Deobandism is a school of thought and a community of scholars; exactly how closely linked Haqqania (the name of the school, not a town as Gilligan seems to assume) is to Deoband is something we have never found out. No doubt locals judge fighting Afghan warlords and the Indian army in Kashmir differently from hijacking aeroplanes in north America and crashing them into buildings.

He also takes a side-swipe at the institution’s student newspaper, Afkaarut-Tullab (Student Concerns), which has been discontinued, as the school’s website informs us. I find it puzzling that Gilligan digs up something published in the magazine in 2002 - does he have nothing more recent or has nothing of that nature appeared in it since? Later on, we hear that the community manager of a similar facility in Birmingham has been tried twice, and acquitted, of terrorist offences. No doubt the manager was not facing a jury of his aunts - only white people tend to get juries mostly of their own kind even here - so Gilligan might ask why two juries acquitted him?

Whether or not this piece is actually a slice of anti-Islamic propaganda, Gilligan really does miss the point of why we have Darul Ulooms. They are not there to raise the bureaucrats of tomorrow, but the imams and religious teachers. They are part of a chain of knowledge, and historically people did learn their religion from a young age. It was common, in centuries past, for children to have memorised the entire Qur’an well before their tenth birthday - some of the best-known scholars memorised thousands of hadeeth as well, including their chains of transmission. In this day and age when it is becoming more and more difficult for Muslims to pursue their religious studies abroad due to politically-motivated crackdowns, these places - particularly the Bury and Dewsbury institutions (I suspect the well-known one in Dewsbury isn’t the one Gilligan is talking about) - will become ever more important if our community is not to fall under the leadership of unsuitable and ill-educated people, the like of which have caused us, and the wider society, enormous damage in the past month. If they need reforming, it is to open it up to a wider range of Muslims by such measures as increasing the use of English and diminishing that of Urdu. We certainly don’t need them turned into training schools for the secular professions. That’s not what they are there for!

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  • http://safiyyah.ca/wordpress/ Safiyyah

    I haven’t read the article, so I can’t comment fully on this. But I do think that if we isolate Muslims from ‘non-Muslims’ and vice versa in the developmental stages of their lives, then we will be creating two very separate communities of people who cannot really understand one other. Schooling has a way of bringing people together and creating a common bond of citizenship. I’m not saying we should get rid of religious schools altogether. I’m not sure what the solution is, since I do like the idea of Islamic schooling, but from what you’ve said about Wood’s comments, I don’t think what he has to say is ridiculous.

    As for the schools you mention, I don’t know very much about them, but I strongly disagree with your assertion that imams and religious leaders do not need to well-versed in secular subjects. Parents often send off their least intelligent children to be educated in these schools, thinking that so long as they memorize the Quran they’ve succeeded and they are now to be role models for the community. What we need instead are bright students who are aware of what is happening outside their Quran and hadith books, but who are at the same time well-versed in the Islamic tradition. Unless this occurs, we will continue to have ignorant imams who can barely speak English, who know nothing of politics or the larger society, and who cannot relate to their congregations. Our imams and religious leaders need good schooling too.

    Incidentally, you’ve been tagged, Yusuf! :-)

  • bikhair

    I believe the problem will correct itself. Muslim youths do however need to have a well rounded education. They will not be children forever and need to learn skills to care for thier families.

  • thabet

    I don’t see why increasing English means diminishing Urdu. Why promote monolingualism?

    assalamu alaykum

  • http://yorkshire-ranter.blogspot.com Alex

    I agree that using the word madrassa for an Islamic school you don’t like and the word school for one you do is risible, and I see your point that Islamic schooling was intended to produce imams rather than secular professionals. But I can’t agree that school (self-)segregation is anything but harmful - it’s done Bradford a power of no good for one. And isn’t it a serious question as to who will provide a non-priestly Islamic education? At the moment, the choice seems to be between the officially secular school system or an education that is both segregating and, as you say, directed to producing imams.

  • Ann

    Assalaamu alaikum,

    I’m still puzzled about exactly what it means that Muslims need to be “more British” or be “integrated into British society”. Does it mean liking British pop music, drinking in pubs, going to nightclubs, dating non-Muslim English girls/boys, having babies out of wedlock? Showing more skin than Muslims are supposed to?

    Supporting the royal family (which a lot of British people don’t anyway)? Eating fish and chips? (One of the alleged bombers worked in his father’s fish and chips shop, so that can’t be it.) Liking football (which most of these alleged bombers seemed to)? Speaking English (which they all did, too, as far as I know)? Reading Shakespeare and Harry Potter?

    I want someone to say specifically what it means, because the impression I have is that it means being not very religious.

  • bikhair

    Ann,

    wa alaikum salaam wa rahmatullah….

    My husband and I were having this very same coversation last night. My husband told me, himself being a British Muslim, that Muslims cant assimilate into British society because so much of what is British is haram. I think the British government should only demand, as the Sharia demands, that Muslims where ever they are, in what ever country, obey the laws of that country. If not, Muslims understand their obligation to hijrah.

  • http://dunner99.blogspot.com/ JD

    For me, the integration issue has to do with how well a Muslim community interacts with society at large. How well do different sub-cultures know and understand each other? Local (Singapore) television dealt with this issue just the other day. My understanding is that the younger Muslim/Malay community here interacts well with the Chinese and Indian communities, but the older generation doesn’t. That seems to be the case with regard to my experiences here. The younger generation of my in-laws are all bilingual in English and Malay, and we all work with Malays, Chinese, and Indians. The older generation tends to be monolingual, in Malay (which has made communicating with my MIL and FIL very challenging for all of us).

    However, when it comes to socializing, it seems like we all socialize within our own sub-cultures. As has been pointed out, what is common for socializing in these non-Muslim cultures tends to be haram for us. But even so, if you look at, say, visiting the homes of people from other sub-cultures, we don’t tend to do it. The only time I’ve visited, say, a Chinese home was when my wife and I were flat-shopping. Otherwise, their daily lives outside of work are somewhat of a mystery.

    Personally, I think non-Muslims who raise the integration issue are really complaining that our community is too insular for their tastes, and that we’re not participating in their (haram) activities. But my experiences here show that as long as these non-Muslim communities understand our reasoning as to why we don’t participate in the haram activities, things will work out in the end. It’s a matter of us educating them in Islam and the Muslim lifestyle.

  • Sulayman F

    Interesting post, I think you taught me a lot of stuff about madrasssas (madarris) that I don’t know. Glad to see someone rebutting the accusations against the Islamic schools, keep it up!

  • bikhair

    JD,

    I think there is something more sinister behind the intergration issue than that. I believe when a dominant culture feels threatened than the first thing they do is complain that there are too many ghettos and people arent assimilating. In my country it isnt so much about the Muslims as it is about the Central Americans. We share a border with Mexico and as you can imagine we have alot of illegal immigration from South of the Border.

    Mainly white Americans complain about Mexicans not speaking English and wanting to recolonize California. It really has everything to do with the Mexicans et al. changing the face of this part of the county, making it more difficult for monolinguals to get jobs, making it more difficult for either low skilled whites or blacks to get better wages when the alternative is to hire Mexicans or Central Americans who will work and who will work for very cheap.

  • salsabila

    Assalamualaikum, In singapore , muslim girls arent allowed to wear hijab in public school.So majority of them would not be wearing any hijab till 16 years of age as schooling is compulsory. Well, there are a few madrassa here but they could ‘nt take so many. there quotas imposed on them.. .

  • http://dunner99.blogspot.com/ JD

    Wa ‘alaikum salaam.

    salsabila wrote: “In singapore, muslim girls arent allowed to wear hijab in public school. So majority of them would not be wearing any hijab till 16 years of age as schooling is compulsory.”

    It’s true that the government here doesn’t allow the tudung in the government schools but, as we both know, that doesn’t stop a lot of non-madrassah female students from wearing the tudung after school.

    “Well, there are a few madrassa here but they could ‘nt take so many. there quotas imposed on them.. .”

    Even if all the Malay community could afford the tuition at the local madrassahs, there aren’t enough of them right now to handle the population.

  • http://dunner99.blogspot.com/ JD

    bikhair wrote: “I think there is something more sinister behind the intergration issue than that. I believe when a dominant culture feels threatened than the first thing they do is complain that there are too many ghettos and people arent assimilating. In my country it isnt so much about the Muslims as it is about the Central Americans. We share a border with Mexico and as you can imagine we have alot of illegal immigration from South of the Border.”

    First, just to let you know, I’m an American, but have been an expat for the past four years. I lived in Arizona for 20 years, so I’m well aware of the various issues dealing with the Hispanic community in the SW.

    “Mainly white Americans complain about Mexicans not speaking English and wanting to recolonize California. It really has everything to do with the Mexicans et al. changing the face of this part of the county, making it more difficult for monolinguals to get jobs, making it more difficult for either low skilled whites or blacks to get better wages when the alternative is to hire Mexicans or Central Americans who will work and who will work for very cheap.”

    Talking to my wife last night, we agreed that there are more factors to the integration issue (even for Singapore) than what I wrote yesterday (although I don’t necessarily think that American attitudes toward integration tend to be “sinister”). Otherwise, I agree with most everything you wrote above (although I hadn’t heard the “recolonization” argument before :) ). However, I do take a very strong pro-immigration stance (because open borders works both ways, and we expats also benefit). As a result, I have very little sympathy for my fellow white Americans who are just beginning to realize that if they are to be competitive in this world, they need to pick up other languages and work for a cheaper wage. Welcome to the real world. :)

  • http://www.toomuchcookies.net Omar Abo-Namous

    Salam Yusuf, i am a regular on your site and i thank you for this comment on the (media) issue “madrassa”.

    “I’m not sure in what languages this is also true; in English, it seems to have acquired the meaning of Islamic religious school.”

    Actually here in Germany we are living the same horror paintings. Like “xx% of pakistani Children go to madrassas!!!!” I think, that we muslims should come clear withourselves. We have problems we should be adressing and we shouldn’t wait for someone to point at them, because he could be pointing with a gun these days…

    Salam.

    Omar

  • rebbiker

    No one really knows if Islam’s adherents are stupid because they are Muslims or if they are Muslims because they are stupid. We do know ,however,that 58% of the Ummah are illiterate and they’re contribution to modern civilization is minimal.

  • http://www.sunniforum.com/forum Muawiyah `Askari

    “No doubt locals judge fighting Afghan warlords and the Indian army in Kashmir differently from hijacking aeroplanes in north America and crashing them into buildings.”

    awesome piece of writing - masha Allah

  • LEILA

    masha allah alhamdulillah…does ny1 no y we came into this world in the 1st place?why did allah create us?the answer is,2 WORSHIP HIM!but no1 remembers thet nymor do they?the answer is.NO! so schools turning into madrassas is a great thing…atleast childeren get taught 2 worship allah from a young age and so that when they are older they remember allah all the time and remember 2 worship him!unlike some people nowadays!

  • ama

    “No one really knows if Islam’s adherents are stupid because they are Muslims or if they are Muslims because they are stupid. We do know ,however,that 58% of the Ummah are illiterate and they’re contribution to modern civilization is minimal” whatever! there’s no need 2 generalize..studying abt d deen is incumbent upon every muslim..wts d point of creation otherwise? in my opinion too many muslims nowadays are worrying needleesly abt dunya..there is no degradation in doing manual labour, “modern civilization” doesnt only consist of degree holders,scientists, blah blah..there are other jobs 2 b done, u shud in fact respect d person who soils himself 2 keep u clean! d dust collectors, janitors, sewage workers and all! learn abt islam, our creator, allah(swt), our rasool, the malaikah, d sahabah, the muttaqun..u’l realize d meaning of life n creation, sure u shud live 4 dis world too, but dont make it d primary..we are but wayfarers..