Zainab binte Jahsh RadiAllahu anha narrates: I asked: O Rasulullah! Would we perish when we have righteous among us? Rasulullah Sallallahu alaihi wasallam replied: Yes! when evil deeds prevail in the society. (Bukhari;bab yajuj wa majuj) Urs ibne Umairah RadiAllahu anhu narrates: Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam said: Allah does not punish everyone for the faults of a few people. But He does punish all when the obedient do not(strive to) stop the disobedient, while they have the ability to do so.(Tabarani and Majma’-uz-Zawaid)

Flanstein.

Judging by your contribution to this forum, that Kuwaiti guy is just as stupid as you.

Flanstien,

“If by stupid you mean telling the truth about islam, I am guilty as charged…”

What truth about Islam have you told any of us here? Listen Flanstein, if you are looking for a fight get ready to have your rump handed to you.

“You want stupidity? High-ranking Kuwaiti official Muhammad Yousef Al-Mlaifi, director of the Kuwaiti Ministry of Endowment’s research center, published an article titled “The Terrorist Katrina is One of the Soldiers of Allah”

Yes, I would conisder that statement pretty stupid especially coming from someone from Kuwait who is in a very good position to understand ALlah’s religion. But I do wonder what is his evidence for the above statement. I do so ever hate when people make statements about Allah, his Messenger and his religion without proof from the former. It just makes everything ever so political and confusing especially for the ignorant like you FLanstein.

Now run along and go and get some motherly nourishment from Irshad Manji.

Before I release you dear boy, I visited your website and somewhere it read that “THe only thing I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11” Can you please expand on the point please.

Flanstein, you’re begrudging the fact that we care about the fate of our family members. The Muslim should,in theory, consider other Muslims as their brothers and sisters and so in enquiring as to whether there are any Muslims down in NOLO,the contributor was merely doing his/her duty. The Ummah, we are told, is like one body, and when one part is in pain the whole hurts.

Saidie,

Either Flanstien has a very low reading comprehension level or he only reads and understands what he wants to read and understand. If he would just reread what I said. I said InshaAllah, I hope these people pull together and get a handle on things. I wasnt being callous. If anything this disaster, because that is what it is, will bring out the best of the Muslims in New Orleans and they will give good dawah with good actions. Because after all everything a Muslim does is a dawah. We either call to Islam or call away from Islam. Muslims are admonished to be good to the stranger. We should practice the good old bedouin hospitality.

But yeah there are some dirt poor blacks down there being affected.

Fascinating comments. Further evidence that Muslims and those of us in civilization are farther apart than even I thought. My mother-in-law who is a devout Catholic (mass EVERY day) when she was asked to donate money to the tsunami victims in south-east Asia, she said “those poor people, I hope what little I give may help them”. She didn’t differentiate between Catholics, Jews, Muslims or animists when she made these comments – and neither did I when I wrote my cheque. It seems that muslims are unique when they dole out sympathy – ONLY to other Muslims. Civilized people look on other human beings – regardless of their race or religion – as their brother and sisters. How VERY different your world is - very instructive how folks here think….but not surprising…

Flanstein,

“It seems that muslims are unique when they dole out sympathy – ONLY to other Muslims.”

Convince me, with my own writings, that I was only offering my sympathy to Muslims only. When you are unable to, I want a written apology with my named spelled correctly, and 100 push-ups.

“Civilized people look on other human beings – regardless of their race or religion – as their brother and sisters.”

Yeah right, as evidence from your posts and the other civlized kafirs that contribute to this forum. I forgive you people though. I understand Muslim terrorists scare and confuse you, so you lash out at everyone. All I ask is that you be honest and consistent with everything that you do and I will try, to the best of my human ability, to do likewise.

Flanstein,

Your grandma is unique.

Flanstein,

Further evidence that Muslims and those of us in civilization are farther apart than even I thought. My mother-in-law who is a devout Catholic (mass EVERY day) when she was asked to donate money to the tsunami victims in south-east Asia, she said “those poor people, I hope what little I give may help them”. She didn’t differentiate between Catholics, Jews, Muslims or animists when she made these comments – and neither did I when I wrote my cheque

Well, may I congratulate you and your mother-in-law (not grandma,correction!) for acting in such a humane way. At least, that’s an improvement over what the colonisers of these same lands did less than a century ago. So, we can see some progress in the civilisation to which you claim to belong.

It seems that muslims are unique when they dole out sympathy – ONLY to other Muslims

Now, this is stack false, because muslims are the only community embodying the last vestiges of “humanity”. You want to compare how much ‘genuine’ sympathy muslims offer to the plight of humanity - to your grandma’s cheque to help “those poor people”?

Civilized people look on other human beings – regardless of their race or religion – as their brother and sisters.

You are right, that’s why throughout the majority of history, muslims have been the ones to protect persecuted people (from who?) whenever the barbaric machinery of this ‘perfect civilisation’ gets an ego trip or hungry for food, land, etc. You can ask the Jewish people who has been their best protector - inspite of Palestine. And which civilisation has been their worst persecutor or put bluntly - incinerator.

For your information it was muslims who were cooking and feeding all those stranded sunbathed tourists in Indonesia after the Tsunami? They opened up the mosque and their wrecked homes so that they may feel safe and protected before returning to their countries? Many of these tourists reported how touched they were and how they couldn’t understand what motivated these “poor people” to do what they did. People who have lost everything, every single thing. This is what it means to be civilised, not by handing out underwears and plastic bottles of water to people in shock. Can you compare such disposition with your civility of unleashing destruction on other people because of oil, ego, race, food, land, etc that all of you fail to speak out against because ya all on such a HIGH horse, with noses stuck up and cannot bother to see what goes on under below your feet?

May God have mercy on you.

So, muslims concern for all peoples regardless of race or religion should tell you that there is something impulsive about the teachings of Islam that brings the best and not the worst out of it adherents. Perhaps this is different from the “Truth” you Know about Islam. But then I only have to submit to your expertise on this subject?

This is why you are foremost in my list of stupid people, cos you don’t know much about all the stuffs you pretend to know about. You are just re-running all the conditioning from growing up in a self-righteous vaccum.

Flanstein, BTW sorry for calling you stupid. I was just echoing you own comments earlier…. I was beggining to take you as a teacher because of your knowing the “truth” about Islam ;)

Yusuf wrote: “with Blogger comments, you can insist that they submit a Blogger ID, rather than just any.”

True.

“Can’t you then ban individual IDs?”

No. Blogger’s setup only gives three choices for comments. Comments can be made either by anyone, registered users of Blogger, or members of that particular blog. So, essentially, it’s an all-or-nothing deal. I’m set up for “anyone.” (Not that I get a lot of comments on my blogs. ;) )

“On here, by the time I find Flan’s comments, lots of others have already replied to them. If he posted anything like what he was posting when I first encountered him, I would delete them.”

I know. I’m just feeling jealous that I can’t enjoy the moment of deleting his comments like you can. ;) Flanstein: Make my day! :) LOL!

Salaam alaikum,

maybe he would like to get some of the e-mails I am getting from various people, Muslim and non-Muslim, whose lives have been dramatically changed by this hurricane, including my own. Everyone is suffering from this indiscriminately.

Additions

Just added a link to Touchy Subjects which currently has a great post on the philosophy of Spongebob. Actually it isn’t about Spongebob at all which is fine with me because all I know about this character (other than that he is likely to be some…

there is always feeling of guilt when a desaster happen people should look into their heart and dfind the answer nothing happen in this earth by cheer luck and hazard everthing has a reason