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		<title>By: HassanButt</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-9586</link>
		<dc:creator>HassanButt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does a media whore and fool taken for a ride by a con artist retain even ANY SHRED of journalistic credibility especially after this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/09/uksecurity-july7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3uw2nZ7kY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does a media whore and fool taken for a ride by a con artist retain even ANY SHRED of journalistic credibility especially after this:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/09/uksecurity-july7">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/09/uksecurity-july7</a></p>

<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/_t3uw2nZ7kY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6444</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiv is a knob.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiv is a knob.</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6443</link>
		<dc:creator>AM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Shiv

You are simply a guy who wants to make a name for himself.  And the angle u wish to use is Hizb ut-tahrir.

So now u will sensationalise HT and hope they get mentioned in papers etc so that u can be called upon as some sort of expert.

Well thats a load of bollocks.  I mean what was your article regarding &quot;HT people working in top jobs&quot; all about.  Should they be on the dole.

Please Shiv can u respond to that
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Shiv</p>

<p>You are simply a guy who wants to make a name for himself.  And the angle u wish to use is Hizb ut-tahrir.</p>

<p>So now u will sensationalise HT and hope they get mentioned in papers etc so that u can be called upon as some sort of expert.</p>

<p>Well thats a load of bollocks.  I mean what was your article regarding &#8220;HT people working in top jobs&#8221; all about.  Should they be on the dole.</p>

<p>Please Shiv can u respond to that</p>
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		<title>By: islamtech</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6442</link>
		<dc:creator>islamtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiv,

your a snake trying to make a name for yourself. You don&#039;t have the knowledge to debate the Islamic ideology
let alone the intelligence to defend your own views.

According to your poor understanding of logic, the Labour party should be banned because people who participate in leftist politics eventually become animal rights extremists. Or those who join the Conservative party eventually join the far right.

You clearly have an agenda to glorify your name and it will be...in shit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiv,</p>

<p>your a snake trying to make a name for yourself. You don&#8217;t have the knowledge to debate the Islamic ideology
let alone the intelligence to defend your own views.</p>

<p>According to your poor understanding of logic, the Labour party should be banned because people who participate in leftist politics eventually become animal rights extremists. Or those who join the Conservative party eventually join the far right.</p>

<p>You clearly have an agenda to glorify your name and it will be&#8230;in shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Moin Al-Islam</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6441</link>
		<dc:creator>Moin Al-Islam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shiv, your abhorrence to some of the key ideas of Islam that are the core of Hizb Ut Tahrir shows precisely that you don’t represent Muslims and yet you use your Muslim name (or Muslim by name) credentials to get your fictional babble on to the papers. You were and are still, handpicked to be the traitor to the Muslims by going against a lot of the Islamic ideas that Muslims carry. Your sentiments aren’t Islamic and neither are your concepts, what is left of you other than a arrogant individual who only stands out because he&#039;s taking the populist, sensationalist, ignorant fears of the west and using them to back-stab and badmouth a large number of Muslims in the UK. Unlike you, most Muslims know that the Islamic ideas in the Quran and the Sunnah are infinitely more superior to the wit or humor (or in your case guidance) your beloved Oscar Wild could ever produce. This may be news to you, but it takes more than eating your mums curry to make you Muslim. Anyway, I just watched the video of you getting trounced by Imran Wahid in the debate ‘Should Hizb ut-Tahrir be proscribed?’ so I suggest you stop trying to gain attention by offering open debates to attempt to agitate Brother Yusuf  who I would think, has better things to do with his time. Who the heck are you anyway? Why should anyone give you a platform? You don’t represent anything.

By the way Br. Yusuf’s point about you being a liar is to do with the frequent inaccuracies you have in your ‘facts’ used again and again in your articles. One could say that if you were doing this intentionally unless your dumb or you really are an uncle-tom that you would be actually lying. If its neither of these things then most Muslims can safely assume that the only person your deceiving is yourself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shiv, your abhorrence to some of the key ideas of Islam that are the core of Hizb Ut Tahrir shows precisely that you don’t represent Muslims and yet you use your Muslim name (or Muslim by name) credentials to get your fictional babble on to the papers. You were and are still, handpicked to be the traitor to the Muslims by going against a lot of the Islamic ideas that Muslims carry. Your sentiments aren’t Islamic and neither are your concepts, what is left of you other than a arrogant individual who only stands out because he&#8217;s taking the populist, sensationalist, ignorant fears of the west and using them to back-stab and badmouth a large number of Muslims in the UK. Unlike you, most Muslims know that the Islamic ideas in the Quran and the Sunnah are infinitely more superior to the wit or humor (or in your case guidance) your beloved Oscar Wild could ever produce. This may be news to you, but it takes more than eating your mums curry to make you Muslim. Anyway, I just watched the video of you getting trounced by Imran Wahid in the debate ‘Should Hizb ut-Tahrir be proscribed?’ so I suggest you stop trying to gain attention by offering open debates to attempt to agitate Brother Yusuf  who I would think, has better things to do with his time. Who the heck are you anyway? Why should anyone give you a platform? You don’t represent anything.</p>

<p>By the way Br. Yusuf’s point about you being a liar is to do with the frequent inaccuracies you have in your ‘facts’ used again and again in your articles. One could say that if you were doing this intentionally unless your dumb or you really are an uncle-tom that you would be actually lying. If its neither of these things then most Muslims can safely assume that the only person your deceiving is yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: afaredi</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6440</link>
		<dc:creator>afaredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother I would like to ask you some genuine questions regarding my interest/confusion around some tariqahs.

Please email me on the address above. (I cant find your elusive email address)

wsalam
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother I would like to ask you some genuine questions regarding my interest/confusion around some tariqahs.</p>

<p>Please email me on the address above. (I cant find your elusive email address)</p>

<p>wsalam</p>
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		<title>By: Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6439</link>
		<dc:creator>Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How arrogant of Shiv Malik.  You can come here and lie further to try to cover things up but  Shiv, with your journalism has exposed your Uncle Tom credentials.

Do you think we were born yesterday, Mr Sellout?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How arrogant of Shiv Malik.  You can come here and lie further to try to cover things up but  Shiv, with your journalism has exposed your Uncle Tom credentials.</p>

<p>Do you think we were born yesterday, Mr Sellout?</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>Atticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Let me put add this, could you imagine what the response from the &gt;Muslim communities would be if say Rowan Williams publicly stated that &gt;we should boycott or refuse to integrate with the Ã¢ÂÂunbelieversÃ¢ÂÂ.

Shivvy-boy, with such moronic rhetoric people should be questioning your intelligence, not just the veracity of your Ã¢ÂÂjournalismÃ¢ÂÂ. You are nothing more than a shrill rent-a-quote. For the record, my response would be as benign as when Pope Benedict XVI opposed Turkish accession to the EU; &quot;another continent, in permanent contrast with Europe&quot; were his exact words. A hugely anti-integrationist message from a figure that is far more influential than HT can ever dream to be. I have an equally calm response to many of the PopeÃ¢ÂÂs other strident comments about Islam and modern secularism. Most of us understand that he has every right to hold such views and express them publicly, which is why we wonÃ¢ÂÂt pushing people towards some kind of witch hunt. But donÃ¢ÂÂt let such objectivity hold you back, you just carry on being a good boy and say what Bwana in the big house wants to hear.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Let me put add this, could you imagine what the response from the &gt;Muslim communities would be if say Rowan Williams publicly stated that &gt;we should boycott or refuse to integrate with the Ã¢ÂÂunbelieversÃ¢ÂÂ.</p>

<p>Shivvy-boy, with such moronic rhetoric people should be questioning your intelligence, not just the veracity of your Ã¢ÂÂjournalismÃ¢ÂÂ. You are nothing more than a shrill rent-a-quote. For the record, my response would be as benign as when Pope Benedict XVI opposed Turkish accession to the EU; &#8220;another continent, in permanent contrast with Europe&#8221; were his exact words. A hugely anti-integrationist message from a figure that is far more influential than HT can ever dream to be. I have an equally calm response to many of the PopeÃ¢ÂÂs other strident comments about Islam and modern secularism. Most of us understand that he has every right to hold such views and express them publicly, which is why we wonÃ¢ÂÂt pushing people towards some kind of witch hunt. But donÃ¢ÂÂt let such objectivity hold you back, you just carry on being a good boy and say what Bwana in the big house wants to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6437</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our khatib today at jumuah was an HT brother.
Mashallah he spoke quite well and wisely.
I take it back that I do not agree with HT &quot;one bit&quot;. Besides doctrinal issues, it is quite difficult to put your finger on their problem.  May be it an attitude or approach issue.  Sometimes they sound so reasonable, but other times they sound funny.  Isn&#039;t that the way we all are...?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our khatib today at jumuah was an HT brother.
Mashallah he spoke quite well and wisely.
I take it back that I do not agree with HT &#8220;one bit&#8221;. Besides doctrinal issues, it is quite difficult to put your finger on their problem.  May be it an attitude or approach issue.  Sometimes they sound so reasonable, but other times they sound funny.  Isn&#8217;t that the way we all are&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Haroon</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/09/15/shiv_maliks_threats#comment-6436</link>
		<dc:creator>Haroon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its no laughing matter Bikhair. Birds Eye recently exposed a HT activist working in their marketing department. Apparently there was a sinister plot to replace the Captain in fish fingers adverts with Omar Bakri or Abu Hamza. Using hypnosis/subliminal messaging thousands of British muslims could have been unwittingly indoctrinated with their perverted brand of Islam....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its no laughing matter Bikhair. Birds Eye recently exposed a HT activist working in their marketing department. Apparently there was a sinister plot to replace the Captain in fish fingers adverts with Omar Bakri or Abu Hamza. Using hypnosis/subliminal messaging thousands of British muslims could have been unwittingly indoctrinated with their perverted brand of Islam&#8230;.</p>
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