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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7019</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#039;an.&lt;/i&gt;

Case in point - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/newmuslims/shariffa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shariffa Carlo al-Andalusia&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#8217;an.</i></p>

<p>Case in point - <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/newmuslims/shariffa.html">Shariffa Carlo al-Andalusia</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7018</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Pickler: &lt;i&gt;And there&#039;s me thinking you were relatively intelligent.&lt;/i&gt;

If I was some stoopid conspiracy-minded wacko of the type which Amir Butler lamented in one of his columns, I wouldn&#039;t have asked for &quot;hard evidence&quot;, would I?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Pickler: <i>And there&#8217;s me thinking you were relatively intelligent.</i></p>

<p>If I was some stoopid conspiracy-minded wacko of the type which Amir Butler lamented in one of his columns, I wouldn&#8217;t have asked for &#8220;hard evidence&#8221;, would I?</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#039;an.&lt;/i&gt;

If I was an anti-Muslim bigot I&#039;d make propaganda films similar to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/details/MyJapan1945&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; (only about Muslims instead of Japanese).  I&#039;d be interested in what other readers here think of this example of 1940s-style &quot;culture of fear&quot;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#8217;an.</i></p>

<p>If I was an anti-Muslim bigot I&#8217;d make propaganda films similar to <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/MyJapan1945">this one</a> (only about Muslims instead of Japanese).  I&#8217;d be interested in what other readers here think of this example of 1940s-style &#8220;culture of fear&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7016</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Got any hard evidence on this? I&#039;ve always wondered why there were so damn f*ing many Islamophobic weblogs. If those blogs were in fact run by paid shills, it would explain a lot...
&lt;/i&gt;

And there&#039;s me thinking you were relatively intelligent.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Got any hard evidence on this? I&#8217;ve always wondered why there were so damn f*ing many Islamophobic weblogs. If those blogs were in fact run by paid shills, it would explain a lot&#8230;
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<p>And there&#8217;s me thinking you were relatively intelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;you, ,Old Pickler can afford to troll many Muslim owned blogs full-time because you are funded by your masters with the hard working American tax payers money. &lt;/i&gt;

I wish. You really are such a putz. And you can&#039;t punctuate.

Oy vey, back to ruling the world.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you, ,Old Pickler can afford to troll many Muslim owned blogs full-time because you are funded by your masters with the hard working American tax payers money. </i></p>

<p>I wish. You really are such a putz. And you can&#8217;t punctuate.</p>

<p>Oy vey, back to ruling the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Traveller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Got any hard evidence on this?*

George, I have actually read a piece on this topic in one of the U.K newspapers, unfortunately can&#039;t remember which one off the top of my head but can search for it.

*What purpose this serves? God knows- because it&#039;s futile.*

Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#039;an.

Anyone else notice how Daniel Pipes, the biggest bigot Islamophobe Zionist on earth has now got his sights on Hispanic converts in America? He is trying to play down the numbers that are converting...claiming that actually, it is mostly Black Americans that are converting, he then goes on to urge fellow Zionists to start lobbying hard Hispanic senators. He of course recognises Hispanics could be the future power brokers in U.S politics by their sheer number and for them to convert to Islam in large numbers would be bad news for Islamophobes like him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Got any hard evidence on this?</em></p>

<p>George, I have actually read a piece on this topic in one of the U.K newspapers, unfortunately can&#8217;t remember which one off the top of my head but can search for it.</p>

<p><em>What purpose this serves? God knows- because it&#8217;s futile.</em></p>

<p>Imran, Not only is it a futile effort, some of the time I think it has the opposite impact to what the Islamophobes want: they are looking to alienate Islam and Muslims by convincing the West that Islam is an alien religion that has no place in their society but actually more and more people in the West are converting to Islam through first coming across this sinister propaganda. Fear and curiosity drives them to find out for themselves what Islam really is all about and so they end up reading the Qur&#8217;an.</p>

<p>Anyone else notice how Daniel Pipes, the biggest bigot Islamophobe Zionist on earth has now got his sights on Hispanic converts in America? He is trying to play down the numbers that are converting&#8230;claiming that actually, it is mostly Black Americans that are converting, he then goes on to urge fellow Zionists to start lobbying hard Hispanic senators. He of course recognises Hispanics could be the future power brokers in U.S politics by their sheer number and for them to convert to Islam in large numbers would be bad news for Islamophobes like him.</p>
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		<title>By: JDsg</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7013</link>
		<dc:creator>JDsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imran wrote:  &quot;I also get the impression that someone or some agency is funding Islamophobic websites out there and paying people to make derogatory comments about Islam.&quot;

While I seriously doubt that most of the Islamophobic websites/blogs I&#039;ve come across receive any systematic funding (most, but not all), I do strongly believe that there are very large numbers of hateful, ignorant, bigoted people out there for whom Islam is the hate du jour.  These people don&#039;t need funding because they are the &quot;true&quot; believers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imran wrote:  &#8220;I also get the impression that someone or some agency is funding Islamophobic websites out there and paying people to make derogatory comments about Islam.&#8221;</p>

<p>While I seriously doubt that most of the Islamophobic websites/blogs I&#8217;ve come across receive any systematic funding (most, but not all), I do strongly believe that there are very large numbers of hateful, ignorant, bigoted people out there for whom Islam is the hate du jour.  These people don&#8217;t need funding because they are the &#8220;true&#8221; believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Imran</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7012</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Carty: &quot;Got any hard evidence on this? I&#039;ve always wondered why there were so damn f*ing many Islamophobic weblogs&quot;

I also get the impression that someone or some agency is funding Islamophobic websites out there and paying people to make derogatory comments about Islam. What purpose this serves? God knows- because it&#039;s futile.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Carty: &#8220;Got any hard evidence on this? I&#8217;ve always wondered why there were so damn f*ing many Islamophobic weblogs&#8221;</p>

<p>I also get the impression that someone or some agency is funding Islamophobic websites out there and paying people to make derogatory comments about Islam. What purpose this serves? God knows- because it&#8217;s futile.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/10/28/hypocrisy_and_self-delusion_on_iran#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whereas the rest of us have to earn a living and therefore can only post on these pages irregularly, you, ,Old Pickler can afford to troll many Muslim owned blogs full-time because you are funded by your masters with the hard working American tax payers money. About 10 billion dollars of which has found its way to Israel this year alone...some of that money comes back to the West to fund the likes of you to spread further Israeli propaganda...and then we get this old cow parasite bleating about Israeli wealth! What wealth? the West&#039;s handouts....you are disgusting.&lt;/i&gt;

Got any hard evidence on this?  I&#039;ve always wondered why there were so damn f***ing &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; Islamophobic weblogs.  If those blogs were in fact run by paid shills, it would explain a lot...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whereas the rest of us have to earn a living and therefore can only post on these pages irregularly, you, ,Old Pickler can afford to troll many Muslim owned blogs full-time because you are funded by your masters with the hard working American tax payers money. About 10 billion dollars of which has found its way to Israel this year alone&#8230;some of that money comes back to the West to fund the likes of you to spread further Israeli propaganda&#8230;and then we get this old cow parasite bleating about Israeli wealth! What wealth? the West&#8217;s handouts&#8230;.you are disgusting.</i></p>

<p>Got any hard evidence on this?  I&#8217;ve always wondered why there were so damn f<em>*</em>ing <i>many</i> Islamophobic weblogs.  If those blogs were in fact run by paid shills, it would explain a lot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Imran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, who can forget John Lennon&#039;s comments about the Beatles being &quot;more popular than Jesus&quot;!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, who can forget John Lennon&#8217;s comments about the Beatles being &#8220;more popular than Jesus&#8221;!</p>
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