Do they STILL not get it?

Posted on 30th October, 2005 by

A while ago there was a controversy in which British TV showed a documentary about the murder of a Saudi princess for some infraction of honour, and the Saudi government attempted to put pressure on the British government to get the TV station to pull the show. Of course, they told the Saudis that it couldn’t be done, that it’s not how things were done in this country. It seems that the Muslim governments have been putting pressure on the Danish government to do the same in response to a feature on pictures of the Prophet (sall’ Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam). (Hat tip: Ginny.)

Now, I’d be the first to object to such cartoons, but you’ve got to understand that these are non-Muslims and Denmark is their country. The western governments are not in the habit of dictating to the media what they may or may not say. Even in the UK, where Americans might believe we don’t have freedom of speech, the only serious restriction is that the media must not discuss matters which are sub judice in case people’s trials are prejudiced. In some cases, the media have breached court orders not to mention certain people, like Flora Keays, Cecil Parkinson’s mentally-disabled daughter by his secretary, with impunity.

Denmark is one of a number of “post-PC” European countries which has passed legislation which affects everyone but is aimed at Muslims: in this case, laws banning Danish citizens bringing foreign spouses into the country if they are under a certain age. I suspect that a malicious motive may have been behind these cartoons - an effort to breach Muslims’ taboos for its own sake. Be that as it may, a lot of Muslims expect the non-Muslims to uphold the honour of our religion, usually by banning works of literature which goes against it. I had difficulty explaining to a Bosnian why Muslims couldn’t expect The Satanic Verses to be banned; in this country, works demolishing the native and established religion are freely published. Why would our religion be treated differently?

I don’t want to be an Uncle Tom, but our people are under threat across Europe, including in Britain from self-styled “muscular liberals” and from neo-cons who threaten to take over the Tory party. Our campaigns should be directed at protecting our rights: our right to acceptable meat, our freedom from state dictation of what is preached in mosques (other than preaching violence) and our women’s right to education without molestation. We should protest against insults to our religion by sending letters and withdrawing advertising, but we cannot expect non-Muslims to institute censorship to avoid hurting our feelings, and we must not jeopardise reasonable demands by making unreasonable ones.

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  • Ann

    Assalaamu alaikum,

    If there is a valid complaint, you have to go to who has the clout anyway. In a country like Denmark, it’s not a matter of complaining to the government. If certain groups in the U.S. don’t like something on TV, for example, they complain to the advertisers and threaten to boycott them. Advertising money is what counts in that situation.

  • Old Pickler

    As a ‘muscular liberal’, I actually agree with much of what has been said, except this bit.

    legislation which affects everyone but is aimed at Muslims: in this case, laws banning Danish citizens bringing foreign spouses into the country if they are under a certain age.

    This is misleading. Denmark wishes to make certain things illegal. If Muslims are doing more of the things that Denmark finds unacceptable, be it polygamy, child marriage etc, then that is just tough.

  • bikhair

    Old Pickler,

    I think you are a horrible, nasty, little bigot twit.

  • Old Pickler

    There is nothing bigoted about being opposed to those aspects of Islam, such as polygamy and child marriage, that are incompatible with Western societies.

    Dr M - your eloquence is astonishing. Shakespeare and Jane Austen rolled into one.

  • Col.Mustafa

    Atleast Denmark have realised that there are some paedo wannabe muslims out there that can’t converse let alone do anything else with women, so they need to get underage girls instead. How muslims say its a bad thing that theyv’e put an age limit on marriage to underage girls is still baffling to me.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Yusuf Smith

    “Col.Mustafa”: the laws concern young adults, not the underage. Most countries have laws stating an age of consent or a minimum marriage age (sometimes younger than 16); this has to do with people in their early 20s, and marrying someone that age is not paedophilia by anyone’s standards.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Yusuf Smith

    Wow, DrM, do you really think there’s only one anti-Muslim bigot in the world? Perhaps Pipes and Spencer are really the same person as well? That’s what I call optimism.

    By the way, Col.Mustafa is posting from a “Bulldog DSL” address, AKA Bulldog Broadband, which is based in the UK. Fecalstein is Canadian and posted from a Sympatico IP addres, while Pickler is on the British ISP BlueYonder. All commenting systems worth their salt (including Haloscan) tell you the IP address from which comments were posted. So we can safely assume that they are three different people.

  • Old Pickler

    I don’t think it is bigotry to say that the law on importing spouses is correct. Teenage brides/bridegrooms are less likely to be educated and have less to contribute to Denmark. Denmark is perfectly entitled to put its own interests first.

    I think that there should be similar restrictions in the UK.

    People confuse bigotry with dislike. Bigotry arises out of ignorance. It is possible to know about something and still dislike it.

    I am not Col Mustafa or Flanstein. I have used a number of names here, but settled on this as it is my typekey name for another site.

  • Col.Mustafa

    What is the age limit that Denmark have put forward? Is it just a case of they don’t want any more muslims coming into the country, or is thier age of consent ridiculously high?

    People like Dr M i have no time for.

  • John Kactuz

    “Your people are under threat”?

    That is so disgusting. Muslims riot in Paris, Behead in Indonesia, Murder in Egypt and bomb in India, and you say Muslims are being persecuted. They want special rights while oppressing other religious minorities, women, jews, gays, etc.. where they dominate.

    The fact is that Islam, reflects the actions of its great prophet in so many ways. Read the Hadiths about the life of the Prophet and you will understand why Muslims are the way they are, why they do the things they do.

  • Col.Mustafa

    Sadly that has abit of truth in it, but then if you look at any religions history you will find the same.

    But someone generalising so much wouldn’t get it.

  • DrM

    Kactuz, you’re an expert at incorrect generalizations….you sound like a typical christo-fascist fundnut to me.

  • Old Pickler

    Kactuz, you’re an expert at incorrect generalizations….you sound like a typical christo-fascist fundnut to me.

    Perhaps, like me, he is also an evil Zionist paid my his masters in the neo-con-infested Whitehouse by the Jew Bush.

  • DrM

    No, he too is a malicious ignoramus with delusions shaped by his stupidity and racism. Nobody needs to pay for such an order given this disease is prevalent amongst the species of scum.

  • http://isre.blogspot.com Fayyaz Khan

    It is true that we can’t go to their house and teach them what they ought to do in their own house, but we should let them know that we srongly disapprove of such and such thing(s). It is a pity that only Saudi Arabia protested. What the hell were the other 55 Islamic countries doing there? Hmm? I am hoping for the day when we will be the United States of Islam, so that we could actually impose tough sanctions on them and give them a taste of their own medicine. Now, before all you guys come up with your nasty comments, don’t just bury your heads in the sand … let the realization sink that a United States of Islam is much more practicable in today’s world than a United States of Christianity or a United States of Judaism.

  • Ann