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	<title>Comments on: Shock news: Arabs don&#8217;t wear poppies.  Cabbie talks out of his backside.</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Something you can only aspire to, but you continue to let yourself down.

Spencer, there are no secrets in Islam.  Go and enrol in University and take a degree in Islamic studies, your non-muslim professor will take you through the sirah, and you will be on your own with your conclusions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Something you can only aspire to, but you continue to let yourself down.</p>

<p>Spencer, there are no secrets in Islam.  Go and enrol in University and take a degree in Islamic studies, your non-muslim professor will take you through the sirah, and you will be on your own with your conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spencer,
You got it all wrong.  Prisoners of war are usually spared in Islam.  In fact there are assigned to the homes of muslims where they can learn proper morals.  But this is not necessarily - if they will prove too dangerous, they may receive capital punishement.

This is a new departure from the barbarity of your Christian wars over the ages, and indeed we can see it in some of the ongoing wars - where there were no even concept of &quot;prisoners of war&quot; or safe guarding lives of the innocent.  They just burnt everyone! And now adays, they bomb them to dust before they can even become prisoners.

&lt;i&gt;Non-Muslims who read these gutter hadiths are utterly shocked at Muhammad’s behavior and I suspect some Muslims are quite embarrassed also as you really don&#039;t advertise these stories&lt;/i&gt;

Spencer are you joking here?

The muslims who are embarrased of Prophet Muhammad&#039;s (peace be upon him) behaviour are usually the ex-ones. Rather, it&#039;s just a reflection of their intelligence.  I am rather embarrased of you intelligence and analysis.

Try another hadith.  Bring them all on. I will try and give you a response here.


You are dealing with a Perfected way of life, there is nothing to be embarrased about.  Rather it is indeed a great honour for us to be muslims, a dust on the feet of Muhammad (peace be upon him).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer,
You got it all wrong.  Prisoners of war are usually spared in Islam.  In fact there are assigned to the homes of muslims where they can learn proper morals.  But this is not necessarily - if they will prove too dangerous, they may receive capital punishement.</p>

<p>This is a new departure from the barbarity of your Christian wars over the ages, and indeed we can see it in some of the ongoing wars - where there were no even concept of &#8220;prisoners of war&#8221; or safe guarding lives of the innocent.  They just burnt everyone! And now adays, they bomb them to dust before they can even become prisoners.</p>

<p><i>Non-Muslims who read these gutter hadiths are utterly shocked at Muhammad’s behavior and I suspect some Muslims are quite embarrassed also as you really don&#8217;t advertise these stories</i></p>

<p>Spencer are you joking here?</p>

<p>The muslims who are embarrased of Prophet Muhammad&#8217;s (peace be upon him) behaviour are usually the ex-ones. Rather, it&#8217;s just a reflection of their intelligence.  I am rather embarrased of you intelligence and analysis.</p>

<p>Try another hadith.  Bring them all on. I will try and give you a response here.</p>

<p>You are dealing with a Perfected way of life, there is nothing to be embarrased about.  Rather it is indeed a great honour for us to be muslims, a dust on the feet of Muhammad (peace be upon him).</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything about the Belgian woman, but if this is true, I don&#039;t think that she was the first European woman to do this. Aren&#039;t Chechnyan women European, too?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about the Belgian woman, but if this is true, I don&#8217;t think that she was the first European woman to do this. Aren&#8217;t Chechnyan women European, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just visited Harry&#039;s Place and read Yvonne Ridley&#039;s reaction to the bombings in Jordan.  Its worth a read.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just visited Harry&#8217;s Place and read Yvonne Ridley&#8217;s reaction to the bombings in Jordan.  Its worth a read.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this quote at Jihad Watch.  God are these guys un-PC or what.

&quot;First female European bomber, what an achievment! Looks like Islam is the progressive, feminist multi-cultural religion we&#039;ve been told it is after all.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this quote at Jihad Watch.  God are these guys un-PC or what.</p>

<p>&#8220;First female European bomber, what an achievment! Looks like Islam is the progressive, feminist multi-cultural religion we&#8217;ve been told it is after all.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys where are your conjones, if female converts are doing this you should all be ashamed.  I hope some of you will be buying your tickets soon.


Female Belgian suicide bomber hit Baghdad
BRUSSELS, Nov. 29 (UPI) -- A woman who carried out a suicide attack in Iraq two weeks ago was identified Tuesday as the first European female suicide bomber.

The Belgian anti-terrorism unit has confirmed that the woman was a Belgian citizen who converted to Islam after her marriage to a Muslim fundamentalist, news service RTL reported Tuesday.

American military forces identified the woman at a combat scene in Baghdad. She was carrying recently issued Belgian identity papers which revealed she had traveled via Turkey. There are no traces of her radical husband who is believed to have organized her trip.

Around 10 percent of all suicide bombings the last 25 years have been carried out by women from the Middle East or Asia. It is, however, a first for a Western woman who has converted to Islam.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys where are your conjones, if female converts are doing this you should all be ashamed.  I hope some of you will be buying your tickets soon.</p>

<p>Female Belgian suicide bomber hit Baghdad
BRUSSELS, Nov. 29 (UPI) &#8212; A woman who carried out a suicide attack in Iraq two weeks ago was identified Tuesday as the first European female suicide bomber.</p>

<p>The Belgian anti-terrorism unit has confirmed that the woman was a Belgian citizen who converted to Islam after her marriage to a Muslim fundamentalist, news service RTL reported Tuesday.</p>

<p>American military forces identified the woman at a combat scene in Baghdad. She was carrying recently issued Belgian identity papers which revealed she had traveled via Turkey. There are no traces of her radical husband who is believed to have organized her trip.</p>

<p>Around 10 percent of all suicide bombings the last 25 years have been carried out by women from the Middle East or Asia. It is, however, a first for a Western woman who has converted to Islam.</p>

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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spence,

Thanks Spence for coming.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spence,</p>

<p>Thanks Spence for coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Bikhair

&quot;Now the issue isn’t whether the Israelites do this anymore because most Muslims don’t behead their enemies and there isn’t a leader of a Muslim today who has declared jihad, which is his sole responsibility according to the Sharia.&quot;

Of course, this is the issue; there would be outrage in the Jewish community if the IDF or some Jewish terrorist outfit behaved this way.  You have to admit that almost everywhere Muslims rub up against non-believers you invariably end up with some headless kuffar.  I mean we have all seen those vile clips from Iraq, but this also happens in southern Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia and in the 90s the Algerian GIA were famous for their head chopping, their main targets being unveiled women, intellectuals, teachers etc….  I also recall that Theo Van Goe nearly had his head severed, I guess the knife was dull.

[chop]

I can tell you are quite orthodox; you must be constantly unhinged by being surrounded by all that infidel filth in the US.  Here&#039;s some advice, why don&#039;t you take some exercise, get fit, learn how to operate firearms and then purchase a ticket to Iraq or the Hindu Kush and participate in Jihad.  You must have contacts, if you don&#039;t I can provide you with some.  Instead of whinging all the time, you armchair jihadi&#039;s should act on your seemingly bottomless list of grievances and do something.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Bikhair</p>

<p>&#8220;Now the issue isn’t whether the Israelites do this anymore because most Muslims don’t behead their enemies and there isn’t a leader of a Muslim today who has declared jihad, which is his sole responsibility according to the Sharia.&#8221;</p>

<p>Of course, this is the issue; there would be outrage in the Jewish community if the IDF or some Jewish terrorist outfit behaved this way.  You have to admit that almost everywhere Muslims rub up against non-believers you invariably end up with some headless kuffar.  I mean we have all seen those vile clips from Iraq, but this also happens in southern Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia and in the 90s the Algerian GIA were famous for their head chopping, their main targets being unveiled women, intellectuals, teachers etc….  I also recall that Theo Van Goe nearly had his head severed, I guess the knife was dull.</p>

<p>[chop]</p>

<p>I can tell you are quite orthodox; you must be constantly unhinged by being surrounded by all that infidel filth in the US.  Here&#8217;s some advice, why don&#8217;t you take some exercise, get fit, learn how to operate firearms and then purchase a ticket to Iraq or the Hindu Kush and participate in Jihad.  You must have contacts, if you don&#8217;t I can provide you with some.  Instead of whinging all the time, you armchair jihadi&#8217;s should act on your seemingly bottomless list of grievances and do something.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spence,

Our noble Prophet (peace be upon him), like Moses (peace be upon him), was a perfect Judge. He was a Lord of Men, a Father, a Husband, a Stateman, a Companion, The Perfect Man (sallallahu &#039;alehi wa salam).

By now, you should have detected that you are in the ranks of those who love Muhammad dearly, more than their own selves.  All your bad mouthing of the Prophet is to your own loss.

On your famous subject - on that he ordered the execution of unarmed men. Stupid you, if they were armed, would that be called execution.  What is the point of saying they were unarmed (after being armed and engaged in a fierce battle that lasted over 14 days).

If indeed the Prophet (saw) ordered the execution of anyone, that would still be just in our eyes ;-) - because his actions are based on divine justice and mercy.  I am sure that is all over your head, because concepts such as justice mean little to people of your type.


Part of justice is &quot;punishing&quot; those who compromise the safety and livelihood of other peoples. The safety of any state requires the proscription of traitors who secretly give information to the enemy.  I won&#039;t write much for you here on the logic of Islamic justice, cos your intelligence and style has taught me not to waste my time.

However it must be said that the execution of the Jews of Banu Qurayzah to which you are referring was ordered by Sa&#039;d Ibn Muadh - at the request of those Jews themselves or some say the Prophet appointed him over them (since he was a prince from their sister tribe).

They said they wanted Sa&#039;d to pronounce their verdict.  Of course, stupid as they are, they thought because he is a prince from one of their tribes he will be merciful than the Prophet Muhammad (who indeed could have spared them, as he spared all the Meccans who killed the Muslims for years).  But since they asked for Sa&#039;d&#039;s verdict, they got it!   He ordered that his own ex-co-religionist be leveled to the ground sparing the women and children.  One account had him say that he was invoking the law of the Torah.  The Prophet didn&#039;t overturn it, why should he -isn&#039;t that what they asked for?

They shouldn&#039;t have been spared in any case.  If they had been spared, they would have reinvaded Medina, as that was their sunnah- invading, pillaging, and jeopardising the lives of other people.

How ironic, that this incidence resonates the verdict of Moses (peace be upon him) in Numbers 31 (go check your Bible) in this case  against the &quot;Gentiles&quot;, many centuries earlier - in favour of the Jews...

&lt;i&gt;31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.&lt;/i&gt;

It is striking how the preceeding events that led to this resembles the seige in Medina.

We could go on and on here...to help you out of your confusion..., but what benefit is clarity going to serve for an ignorant soul as yours whose inner eye has been deemed. Little benefit, I guess - which is still better than nothing, Alhamdulilah.

You will hear words of respect when you learn how not to insult the Prophets (peace be upon them).  You are clearly one of those who are unable to discriminate between the sacred and the mundane - even if it is of religion other than yours.

Now, run away and get more hadiths.

That is what your life is all about anyway.

What a life!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spence,</p>

<p>Our noble Prophet (peace be upon him), like Moses (peace be upon him), was a perfect Judge. He was a Lord of Men, a Father, a Husband, a Stateman, a Companion, The Perfect Man (sallallahu &#8216;alehi wa salam).</p>

<p>By now, you should have detected that you are in the ranks of those who love Muhammad dearly, more than their own selves.  All your bad mouthing of the Prophet is to your own loss.</p>

<p>On your famous subject - on that he ordered the execution of unarmed men. Stupid you, if they were armed, would that be called execution.  What is the point of saying they were unarmed (after being armed and engaged in a fierce battle that lasted over 14 days).</p>

<p>If indeed the Prophet (saw) ordered the execution of anyone, that would still be just in our eyes ;-) - because his actions are based on divine justice and mercy.  I am sure that is all over your head, because concepts such as justice mean little to people of your type.</p>

<p>Part of justice is &#8220;punishing&#8221; those who compromise the safety and livelihood of other peoples. The safety of any state requires the proscription of traitors who secretly give information to the enemy.  I won&#8217;t write much for you here on the logic of Islamic justice, cos your intelligence and style has taught me not to waste my time.</p>

<p>However it must be said that the execution of the Jews of Banu Qurayzah to which you are referring was ordered by Sa&#8217;d Ibn Muadh - at the request of those Jews themselves or some say the Prophet appointed him over them (since he was a prince from their sister tribe).</p>

<p>They said they wanted Sa&#8217;d to pronounce their verdict.  Of course, stupid as they are, they thought because he is a prince from one of their tribes he will be merciful than the Prophet Muhammad (who indeed could have spared them, as he spared all the Meccans who killed the Muslims for years).  But since they asked for Sa&#8217;d&#8217;s verdict, they got it!   He ordered that his own ex-co-religionist be leveled to the ground sparing the women and children.  One account had him say that he was invoking the law of the Torah.  The Prophet didn&#8217;t overturn it, why should he -isn&#8217;t that what they asked for?</p>

<p>They shouldn&#8217;t have been spared in any case.  If they had been spared, they would have reinvaded Medina, as that was their sunnah- invading, pillaging, and jeopardising the lives of other people.</p>

<p>How ironic, that this incidence resonates the verdict of Moses (peace be upon him) in Numbers 31 (go check your Bible) in this case  against the &#8220;Gentiles&#8221;, many centuries earlier - in favour of the Jews&#8230;</p>

<p><i>31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.</i></p>

<p>It is striking how the preceeding events that led to this resembles the seige in Medina.</p>

<p>We could go on and on here&#8230;to help you out of your confusion&#8230;, but what benefit is clarity going to serve for an ignorant soul as yours whose inner eye has been deemed. Little benefit, I guess - which is still better than nothing, Alhamdulilah.</p>

<p>You will hear words of respect when you learn how not to insult the Prophets (peace be upon them).  You are clearly one of those who are unable to discriminate between the sacred and the mundane - even if it is of religion other than yours.</p>

<p>Now, run away and get more hadiths.</p>

<p>That is what your life is all about anyway.</p>

<p>What a life!</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;ve also contradicted this statement in revealing that you know about the contents of philosophy.&quot;

That was supposed to say the contents of Leviticus.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ve also contradicted this statement in revealing that you know about the contents of philosophy.&#8221;</p>

<p>That was supposed to say the contents of Leviticus.</p>
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