The story of a European female convert to Islam carrying out a suicide mission in Iraq came as a shock to a lot of people, despite the fact that it's not the first European or the first convert, but just the first female. I was shocked, however, at how badly taught this woman obviously had been, something which isn't lost on the regulars at Deenport. The crowd in which her husband moved obviously did not care much about maintaining ties with relations. (Dunner's blog has more on this, a comment on Juan Cole's entry.)
The Times here and the Guardian here have interviews with Muriel Degauque's mother and some other acquaintances. Particularly objectionable is that the pair started dictating terms to Degauque's parents about how they should behave when their daughter and her husband were visiting them:
"When we saw them they imposed their own rules," her mother told La Derniere Heure newspaper. "We would be at home but my husband had to eat in the kitchen with Hissam while the women stayed in the sitting room. The last time we saw them we told them we had had enough of them trying to indoctrinate us."
Who told them that men and women had to eat separately even when they are close family and therefore hijab rules do not apply? Even if this is the custom in some Arab countries (particularly when cousins and other in-laws are present), it is not necessary with close family and it is certainly not appropriate to demand this of one's own parents. Worse, her mother accuses her of refusing to visit her in hospital. Did nobody tell her that visiting the sick is something for which a Muslim is rewarded?
A lot of converts face hostility from family and former friends, of course, and it sometimes happens that they reject us entirely. More common is not being able to participate in family events because they involve sitting round a table with people drinking alcohol, and because they take place in restaurants where the food is mostly haraam. There is a huge difference, however, between refusing to participate and demanding that one's parents obey your rules in their house.
A poster at Deenport mentioned that on a recent visit to Morocco he saw "a significant number of men with scowling faces, long beards and shortened trousers", a sight I remember seeing on a fair few occasions on visits to certain London mosques; Q-News once reported on an incident in which these extremists disrupted a wedding at Regent's Park Mosque, calling the attendants kafirs and accusing them of drinking alcohol; on one occasion I saw two of them (not Moroccan) come to the brink of a fist fight in the prayer hall.
Of course, if al-Zarqawi's gang had not managed to get this criminal to bring his impressionable wife to Iraq to carry out a pointless suicide bombing, they would have found someone closer to home. The attack would have happened anyway. While the way this cult poisons converts against their families in a way Islam certainly does not condone, much less require, is perhaps less heinous than its disregard for the limits on taking life, it still causes a lot of grief to the families affected. This woman's mother lost her only other child in a motorcycle accident 18 years ago.
Jahil, and extreme. What a wonderful combo. I guess that old time beduion hospitality was lost on them.
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I read she used to sell baguettes in a bakery.
Baguettes have always struck me as a slightly aggressive form of bread, particularly when compared with the gentler, more rounded barm cake or bloomer. No good could possibly come of it.
On another thread here, also about Belgian terrorists, there was a 'pastry chef' turned militant Muslim - a choux bomber perhaps? (That's second time round for that little joke, but it deserves repeating, even if I say so myself.)
My local baker's shop sells a variety of loaves, cakes, pies, pasties and biscuits. Who knows what this might lead to should a disgruntled employee convert and decide that Islam deserves a bigger slice of the pie? Crumbs.
Asma,
Lol...
Ibrahim,
Asalaamualaikum wa rahmatullah... You live in L.A. come to my masjid. InshaAllah if you are interested I will give you the address.
Asma - you nicked that from me on JW, where I post as Interested.
Good taste though.
Bikhair - glad you like my sense of humour!!
Assalamu alaikum, very extreme indeed! I'mnot sure what to say, am left speechless / typeless lol.
Subhanallah, is all I can think to say.
Old Pickler
As Homer Simpson would say Doh!
Of course Bikhair would not have found it funny if she'd known I wrote it, because I'm a nasty infidel.
Indeed it was very funny. And I do apologize for copying and pasting it without acknowledging its source. You should really write for the Spectator.
That's a real compliment. I love the Spectator. Thanks - and I'm flattered you found it funny.
Ah! Fellow fans of the Speckie, I really am starting to enjoy this blog.
Asma bin Marwan,
I googled your name. You really are naughty. He, He.
Actually Asma's (just twigged) was the first compliment I've ever received on this site - usually I get abuse. Still, sticks and stones, eh? Oh, wait a minute...
Bikhair,
As-Salam-u-Alaikum. How about yuor address?
Old Pickler,
Not only are you a disbliever but a liar as well. The true signs of a hypocrinte. There are hadiths about people like you.
Bikhair,
Could you please share with us some of these hadiths about lying, funny, hypocritical, Spectator-reading, disbelieving Englishmen.
And what is a hypocrinte?
But Bikhair - you laughed at my joke, didn't you?
I for one do not believe the "belgian woman" story.
Don't be fooled by everything you here. Don't be part of this manipulated "flock of sheep".
oops Sorry , I meant to say: "Don't be fooled by everything you hear".
Ridiculous. Lest they have your brains underneath their feet...as they have the brains of the rest of us.
Anonymous
A conspiracy then cooked up by the usual Zionist suspects?
Sir Toppenhart,
Stay tuned to your TV. I am sure you will get the facts there, hardly!