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	<title>Comments on: Shaikh Nuh Keller on niqab (updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Rumi</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-12502</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yusuf, it is strange that you would quote this accusation of some people being &quot;shaytaan&quot; for apparently calling for women to uncover their faces, given that - as some people pointed out above - it is not &#039;awrah according to the majority.

If anyone calls another &quot;shaytaan&quot; for a matter of disagreement, this shows poor etiquette and it would be better to cover that fault rather than broadcast it.

But more to the point, it seems to be a misunderstanding where the MB presumably were promoting hijaab (i.e. &quot;This headscarf is what women should not go without&quot;) rather than denigrating niqaab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yusuf, it is strange that you would quote this accusation of some people being &#8220;shaytaan&#8221; for apparently calling for women to uncover their faces, given that - as some people pointed out above - it is not &#8216;awrah according to the majority.</p>

<p>If anyone calls another &#8220;shaytaan&#8221; for a matter of disagreement, this shows poor etiquette and it would be better to cover that fault rather than broadcast it.</p>

<p>But more to the point, it seems to be a misunderstanding where the MB presumably were promoting hijaab (i.e. &#8220;This headscarf is what women should not go without&#8221;) rather than denigrating niqaab.</p>
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		<title>By: bearshare</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-11271</link>
		<dc:creator>bearshare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since my dad started following this tarika (Nuh keller).he has been brain washed by him and other people in tarika.He has devorsed my mother because my mother wouldn&#039;t follow Mr Keller and left us (three daughters aged 5,7 and 9 and run away from home to be close to tarika people in birmingham because he has been promised that he would get a young pious girl from the tarika.  since January 2006 our dad has not become a normal human being (a normal dad)we feel that our dad is dead because he is never there for us when we need him . we haven&#039;t got anyone in this country expect from him and our mum.and el hadoolilah we still have our mum (may allah keep her for us).i hope mr Keller can read this and feel the pain he is causing lots of children like us when he is listening to his qasaa&#039;id and meditating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since my dad started following this tarika (Nuh keller).he has been brain washed by him and other people in tarika.He has devorsed my mother because my mother wouldn&#8217;t follow Mr Keller and left us (three daughters aged 5,7 and 9 and run away from home to be close to tarika people in birmingham because he has been promised that he would get a young pious girl from the tarika.  since January 2006 our dad has not become a normal human being (a normal dad)we feel that our dad is dead because he is never there for us when we need him . we haven&#8217;t got anyone in this country expect from him and our mum.and el hadoolilah we still have our mum (may allah keep her for us).i hope mr Keller can read this and feel the pain he is causing lots of children like us when he is listening to his qasaa&#8217;id and meditating.</p>
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		<title>By: Anshu</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-7897</link>
		<dc:creator>Anshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband follows the Nuh Keller&#039;s Tariq since 6 years now and instead of improving his behaviour....he has become worse in anger, has nothing to do with family ....and now comes home ONLY to sleep........thanks to Mr. Nuh Keller
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband follows the Nuh Keller&#8217;s Tariq since 6 years now and instead of improving his behaviour&#8230;.he has become worse in anger, has nothing to do with family &#8230;.and now comes home ONLY to sleep&#8230;&#8230;..thanks to Mr. Nuh Keller</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to point out, that most westerners assume right away that all niqabis are salafi. And I am not exactly clear to what problem there is with being &#039;accused&#039; of being Salafi, no matter what color of Niqab you wear! I am neither Sufi, Ekhwan, Salafi, or Shiia, but all I know is, that I wear Niqab for a beautiful purpose(despite the existing difference of opinion of it being Fard,Sunnah or Mustahab). And whether or not you believe me, it has brought many people to Islam in Canada, and people have taken on their shahada right here. You teach others to love Allah and the Messenger, whether they want Niqab or not, the most important thing is that their hearts are pure. We need to stop the tafru&#039;a amongst us, unite as one, and ask Allah to raise this Ummah to the rank of honor it should have today! Thank you, wa jazakom Allah Khairan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to point out, that most westerners assume right away that all niqabis are salafi. And I am not exactly clear to what problem there is with being &#8216;accused&#8217; of being Salafi, no matter what color of Niqab you wear! I am neither Sufi, Ekhwan, Salafi, or Shiia, but all I know is, that I wear Niqab for a beautiful purpose(despite the existing difference of opinion of it being Fard,Sunnah or Mustahab). And whether or not you believe me, it has brought many people to Islam in Canada, and people have taken on their shahada right here. You teach others to love Allah and the Messenger, whether they want Niqab or not, the most important thing is that their hearts are pure. We need to stop the tafru&#8217;a amongst us, unite as one, and ask Allah to raise this Ummah to the rank of honor it should have today! Thank you, wa jazakom Allah Khairan.</p>
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		<title>By: peace</title>
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		<dc:creator>peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalaamu alaikum,

Alhamdulillah the Sheikh has spoken quite well. i have noticed someone has complained that the sheikh should not minimise other sheikhs, so i would just like to say that there is nothing wrong in doing that if one is to point out anothers mistake.

Ma&#039;a salaama
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalaamu alaikum,</p>

<p>Alhamdulillah the Sheikh has spoken quite well. i have noticed someone has complained that the sheikh should not minimise other sheikhs, so i would just like to say that there is nothing wrong in doing that if one is to point out anothers mistake.</p>

<p>Ma&#8217;a salaama</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Hafid</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-7894</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Hafid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a salafi but true sufis do not make fun of anyone as salafis are muslims and have all rights that other muslims have on any muslim. Real sheikhs do not minimize the level of anyone by fear of arrogance. Even for non muslims in the time when these non muslims where unsignificant at the political, military an cultural levels (like for Mawlana Jalal Eddin Al Rumi who welcomed everyone). True sufis do not say anything about fellow sheikhs. I do not believe what your sheikh said about al ikhwan and I am not one of them but I know that those he talked about are :
- Sheikh Abdul Fattah Abu Ghudda Rahimahu Allah, who was one of the most prominent Muhaddiths of his time and one of the Hanafi scholars and probably sufi.
- Sheikh Said Hawwa, Rahimahu Allah, who was an outspoken scholar and sufi and who has written extensively about tasawuf and who has many sheikhs and who was a true sufi Rahimahu Allah.
Sheikh Al Shaghouri, Radhiya Allahu anhu, who was a TRUE sheikh, could not possibly hurt anyone of these knowing them. Sheikh al Bouti, Hafidhahu Allah, has never declared against any salafi that he was shaytan or against anyone in the muslim world. Sheikh Ghazali has declared so against declared communists who were insulting Sayyidina Rasoulou Allah Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa Sallam. Sheikh Al-Ghazali and Al-Bouti are the most outspoken scholars against the salafis, yet no one of them has ever said anything minimizing against the salafis. They only oppose the arrogance of some salafis with a very little irony just to enlight the debates, no more. Please, make nasiha to your sheikh as even if someone is good, that does not make him maasoum and he can make mistakes. Besides, this means that sufis are not blind followers but of Rasoulu Allah Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa Sallam and other people should be followed by heart and reason. You should prevent yourself from becoming a sect where the followers make the leader so sacred that whatever he says is followed. Women who do not wear a niqab are not evil and many scholars have this opinion backed by strong evidence. The scholars who think that niqab is wajib are also numerous but no one thinks that the others are shaytan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a salafi but true sufis do not make fun of anyone as salafis are muslims and have all rights that other muslims have on any muslim. Real sheikhs do not minimize the level of anyone by fear of arrogance. Even for non muslims in the time when these non muslims where unsignificant at the political, military an cultural levels (like for Mawlana Jalal Eddin Al Rumi who welcomed everyone). True sufis do not say anything about fellow sheikhs. I do not believe what your sheikh said about al ikhwan and I am not one of them but I know that those he talked about are :
- Sheikh Abdul Fattah Abu Ghudda Rahimahu Allah, who was one of the most prominent Muhaddiths of his time and one of the Hanafi scholars and probably sufi.
- Sheikh Said Hawwa, Rahimahu Allah, who was an outspoken scholar and sufi and who has written extensively about tasawuf and who has many sheikhs and who was a true sufi Rahimahu Allah.
Sheikh Al Shaghouri, Radhiya Allahu anhu, who was a TRUE sheikh, could not possibly hurt anyone of these knowing them. Sheikh al Bouti, Hafidhahu Allah, has never declared against any salafi that he was shaytan or against anyone in the muslim world. Sheikh Ghazali has declared so against declared communists who were insulting Sayyidina Rasoulou Allah Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa Sallam. Sheikh Al-Ghazali and Al-Bouti are the most outspoken scholars against the salafis, yet no one of them has ever said anything minimizing against the salafis. They only oppose the arrogance of some salafis with a very little irony just to enlight the debates, no more. Please, make nasiha to your sheikh as even if someone is good, that does not make him maasoum and he can make mistakes. Besides, this means that sufis are not blind followers but of Rasoulu Allah Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa Sallam and other people should be followed by heart and reason. You should prevent yourself from becoming a sect where the followers make the leader so sacred that whatever he says is followed. Women who do not wear a niqab are not evil and many scholars have this opinion backed by strong evidence. The scholars who think that niqab is wajib are also numerous but no one thinks that the others are shaytan.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Hakim</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-7893</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Hakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it really matter what the shaykh said? The vast majority of all scholars within all madhhabs say/said that the face is not part of the &#039;awra, so how can a shaykh make haram what the vast majority of the scholars considered halal and then make it halal in another context? For simple fiqh issues shouldn&#039;t we just stick to the fiqh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it really matter what the shaykh said? The vast majority of all scholars within all madhhabs say/said that the face is not part of the &#8216;awra, so how can a shaykh make haram what the vast majority of the scholars considered halal and then make it halal in another context? For simple fiqh issues shouldn&#8217;t we just stick to the fiqh?</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-7892</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum,

Thanks for the tip.  It&#039;s been done (the condition can be found about 13 minutes and 30 or so seconds into the lecture).  I put &quot;severe necessity&quot; as it was meant to be a summary and because there might be other circumstances that severe, but you probably can&#039;t get much more severe than that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum,</p>

<p>Thanks for the tip.  It&#8217;s been done (the condition can be found about 13 minutes and 30 or so seconds into the lecture).  I put &#8220;severe necessity&#8221; as it was meant to be a summary and because there might be other circumstances that severe, but you probably can&#8217;t get much more severe than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Servant of Allah</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2005/12/17/shaikh_nuh_keller_on_niqab_updated#comment-7891</link>
		<dc:creator>Servant of Allah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salams Sidi,

You wrote &quot;He said that he had nothing to do with a woman taking off her hijab altogether except in cases of severe necessity.&quot;

As I recalled from the lesson, he said he does not have anything to do with anyone who takes off their hijab. He did not mention anything about &quot;except in severe necessities&quot;.

I hope you can correct your article so it reflects what the Sheikh actually said. I think it is better to do a transcript rather than do a summary as we might misquote what the speaker actually said.

And Allah knows best.

Ma&#039;salama
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salams Sidi,</p>

<p>You wrote &#8220;He said that he had nothing to do with a woman taking off her hijab altogether except in cases of severe necessity.&#8221;</p>

<p>As I recalled from the lesson, he said he does not have anything to do with anyone who takes off their hijab. He did not mention anything about &#8220;except in severe necessities&#8221;.</p>

<p>I hope you can correct your article so it reflects what the Sheikh actually said. I think it is better to do a transcript rather than do a summary as we might misquote what the speaker actually said.</p>

<p>And Allah knows best.</p>

<p>Ma&#8217;salama</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s very little better than reading the articles, or listening to the lectures, of the Shaykh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s very little better than reading the articles, or listening to the lectures, of the Shaykh.</p>
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