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	<title>Comments on: Another retort to Anthony Browne&#8217;s pamphlet</title>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2309</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Understood, but the times have changed and so have the targets of anti-semitism.&lt;/i&gt;

Hence my mention of &quot;conventional current&quot;.  The direction of electric current flow within a circuit was arbitrarily defined as being from positive to negative, and all the literature on electricity was written based on this convention.  By the time it was discovered that electric current actually consisted of electrons travelling from negative to positive, the convention was so strongly established that it could not be changed without re-writing millions of books.

Similarly, if the meaning of &quot;anti-Semitism&quot; was changed from &quot;anti-Jewish racism&quot; to &quot;anti-Arab racism&quot;, millions of books would have to be re-written.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Understood, but the times have changed and so have the targets of anti-semitism.</i></p>

<p>Hence my mention of &#8220;conventional current&#8221;.  The direction of electric current flow within a circuit was arbitrarily defined as being from positive to negative, and all the literature on electricity was written based on this convention.  By the time it was discovered that electric current actually consisted of electrons travelling from negative to positive, the convention was so strongly established that it could not be changed without re-writing millions of books.</p>

<p>Similarly, if the meaning of &#8220;anti-Semitism&#8221; was changed from &#8220;anti-Jewish racism&#8221; to &#8220;anti-Arab racism&#8221;, millions of books would have to be re-written.</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2308</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carty,

I was only kidding.

&quot;IIRC this is a common viewpoint among Salafis...&quot;

I have never heard a salafi say this. I just thought it was too funny. Shias are funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carty,</p>

<p>I was only kidding.</p>

<p>&#8220;IIRC this is a common viewpoint among Salafis&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>I have never heard a salafi say this. I just thought it was too funny. Shias are funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2307</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Understood, but the times have changed and so have the targets of anti-semetism.*

Well, commonly used terms for hatred, particularly those ending in &quot;phobia&quot;, are very often inaccurate anyway.  Anti-Semitism was invented to refer to Jew-hatred but is equally valid to refer to Arab-hatred; Islamophobia (and indeed &quot;homophobia&quot;) are often hates rather than fears.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Understood, but the times have changed and so have the targets of anti-semetism.</em></p>

<p>Well, commonly used terms for hatred, particularly those ending in &#8220;phobia&#8221;, are very often inaccurate anyway.  Anti-Semitism was invented to refer to Jew-hatred but is equally valid to refer to Arab-hatred; Islamophobia (and indeed &#8220;homophobia&#8221;) are often hates rather than fears.</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2306</link>
		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;The word &quot;anti-Semitism&quot; was invented in Germany, with the meaning of &quot;anti-Jewish racism&quot;. It didn&#039;t matter that worldwide most Semites are Arabs, as most Semites in Germany were Jews.
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    <p>The word &#8220;anti-Semitism&#8221; was invented in Germany, with the meaning of &#8220;anti-Jewish racism&#8221;. It didn&#8217;t matter that worldwide most Semites are Arabs, as most Semites in Germany were Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2305</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shiaism is a Zoroastrian conspiracy against Islam.&lt;/i&gt;

IIRC this is a common viewpoint among Salafis, but I don&#039;t understand this argument.  Shi&#039;ism did not become principally associated with Iran until the Safavid dynasty, over 800 years after the Sunni/Shi&#039;a split.

Before then, the main Shi&#039;a state was the Fatimid Caliphate centred in Egypt - an area which was badly oppressed by the Persians in its pre-Islamic history, and would therefore likely have had little sympathy for Zoroastrianism...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shiaism is a Zoroastrian conspiracy against Islam.</i></p>

<p>IIRC this is a common viewpoint among Salafis, but I don&#8217;t understand this argument.  Shi&#8217;ism did not become principally associated with Iran until the Safavid dynasty, over 800 years after the Sunni/Shi&#8217;a split.</p>

<p>Before then, the main Shi&#8217;a state was the Fatimid Caliphate centred in Egypt - an area which was badly oppressed by the Persians in its pre-Islamic history, and would therefore likely have had little sympathy for Zoroastrianism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Shiaism is a Zoraostrain conspiracy against Islam.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>

<p>Shiaism is a Zoraostrain conspiracy against Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum

Shamil: most likely, because I didn&#039;t see it before logging off to go to Kingston this afternoon. George Carty has his comments auto-posted because he has a [TypeKey](http://www.typekey.com/).  (The same is true of my comments - if I didn&#039;t, I&#039;d have to moderate my own comments.)  If you got one (they are free), the same would be true of your posts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum</p>

<p>Shamil: most likely, because I didn&#8217;t see it before logging off to go to Kingston this afternoon. George Carty has his comments auto-posted because he has a <a href="http://www.typekey.com/">TypeKey</a>.  (The same is true of my comments - if I didn&#8217;t, I&#8217;d have to moderate my own comments.)  If you got one (they are free), the same would be true of your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Another question, do you buy the theory put forward that the reason why Ahmadinejad and other Islamists espouse holocaust denial is not because they wish to repeat the Holocaust (the motive of neo-Nazi holocaust deniers), but because they want to portray Zionism as a western conspiracy against Islam, and persecution of Jews by Western Christians doesn&#039;t fit with this view of Zionism?&quot;

Partly but in Ahmadinejad&#039;s case I think it&#039;s just a matter of attention seeking.

By the way Yusuf why wasn&#039;t my other post posted?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another question, do you buy the theory put forward that the reason why Ahmadinejad and other Islamists espouse holocaust denial is not because they wish to repeat the Holocaust (the motive of neo-Nazi holocaust deniers), but because they want to portray Zionism as a western conspiracy against Islam, and persecution of Jews by Western Christians doesn&#8217;t fit with this view of Zionism?&#8221;</p>

<p>Partly but in Ahmadinejad&#8217;s case I think it&#8217;s just a matter of attention seeking.</p>

<p>By the way Yusuf why wasn&#8217;t my other post posted?</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2301</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question, do you buy the theory put forward that the reason why Ahmadinejad and other Islamists espouse holocaust denial is not because they wish to repeat the Holocaust (the motive of neo-Nazi holocaust deniers), but because they want to portray Zionism as a western conspiracy against Islam, and persecution of Jews by Western Christians doesn&#039;t fit with this view of Zionism?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question, do you buy the theory put forward that the reason why Ahmadinejad and other Islamists espouse holocaust denial is not because they wish to repeat the Holocaust (the motive of neo-Nazi holocaust deniers), but because they want to portray Zionism as a western conspiracy against Islam, and persecution of Jews by Western Christians doesn&#8217;t fit with this view of Zionism?</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/01/11/another_retort_to_anthony_brownes_pamphlet#comment-2300</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why are attacks on Arabs, the largest group of semetic people on earth never deemed &quot;anti-semetic&quot; ?&lt;/i&gt;

For the same reason why &quot;conventional current&quot; flows from positive to negative, even though the electrons actually flow from negative to positive.  The word &quot;anti-Semitism&quot; was invented in Germany, with the meaning of &quot;anti-Jewish racism&quot;.  It didn&#039;t matter that worldwide most Semites are Arabs, as most Semites &lt;i&gt;in Germany&lt;/i&gt; were Jews.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why are attacks on Arabs, the largest group of semetic people on earth never deemed &#8220;anti-semetic&#8221; ?</i></p>

<p>For the same reason why &#8220;conventional current&#8221; flows from positive to negative, even though the electrons actually flow from negative to positive.  The word &#8220;anti-Semitism&#8221; was invented in Germany, with the meaning of &#8220;anti-Jewish racism&#8221;.  It didn&#8217;t matter that worldwide most Semites are Arabs, as most Semites <i>in Germany</i> were Jews.</p>
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