Comments on: If you tolerate this …

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:08:12 +0000

Part of the problem is that the modern man has a split in his head, which follows naturally from a lack of Tawheed.

These behaviours are socially acceptable anyway, only that they are not legally acceptable.

So, if I was more socially inclined that legally, I careless what the legal consequences may be.

As muslims, we shouldn’t have these problems - Alhamdulilah. Our Lord is One, our Exemplar is One, and our ways, our Shariah is one, whether socially, legally, economically, personally, spiritually, politically, and whatever you want to add, etc.

By: aicha

aicha — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:35:36 +0000

I have on many occasions found myself on buses where the kids at the back have spent the whole journey cursing the lone black man, or in one case, the lone black female bus driver whilst a sufficient number of fit, young men simply sat and did nothing to challenge their behaviour. In so doing, we are giving a green light to the abuse of anyone who doesn’t quite fit their perceived norm. I have also witnessed pupils from the local comprehensive throwing bottles at other pupils in full view of teachers who uttered not a word. In a workplace, such violent behaviour would be treated with the severity it so deserved, but in school its too often brushed off as boisterous behaviour. either because the schools fear retribution from the accused child and its clan or because a child is viewed as a lesser being. I’m pleased I’m not in school anymore!

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:33:16 +0000

The Prophet (peace be upon him) never smacked anyone. He never said to anyone, “don’t do this, or don’t do that”.

All He had to do was to be a Good example of what he wanted to see in other people.

I am not saying that canning and other corporal punishments are unacceptable. On the contrary, I believe they are needed, but we should never lose sight of the fact that - they are only needed when the accused person’s behaviour is socially inexcusable.

Our moral lifestyles - as parents - however are not appealing to kids. In fact they are not appealing - fullstop.

So, we should make it a priority to correct that, and then comes canning to put kids in check (when their lowerselves creeps in). In such a context canning would make sense because there would be no excuse for kids to misbehave (since they would have been presented with good and viable examples of behaviour). Otherwise, it is child abuse. But then again, you have the problem of television and all its negative influences. It’s all twisted.

The modern man is living in hell.

Anyway…”Surely, you have in the Messenger of Allah, the best example..for those who Hope for Allah and the last day”

By: Bikhair

Bikhair — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:37:30 +0000

Parents need to start beating their children.

By: JDsg

JDsg — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:49:56 +0000

Caning won't prevent crime; there are certainly enough cases here in S'pore of adults who have lived here all their life, who know better, and yet commit offenses that will guarantee them at least a few strokes of the cane (24 strokes, BTW, is the maximum). OTOH, while culture does play a part, I'm sure, the crime rate here, where there is caning, is MUCH LOWER than it is in either London or the UK as a whole, where there isn't any caning. According to your National Statistics website, the recorded crime rate for 2002/03 (notifiable offenses per 100,000 population) was 15,175 for London and 11,327 for the UK as a whole. However, here in S'pore, the 2003 crime rate per 100,000 population was a mere 802 (the fifth straight year under 1,000). And while I'm sure there are a number of factors that help to explain the disparity between the two countries' crime rates, I'm sure the fact that S'pore does cane people - and publicizes those canings (e.g., through news stories) - is one reason why it's much safer here than there.