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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9L9S6WQDo

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1JYrU9kXM&feature=related

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He illustrated from the Quran that if you kill one it is like killing all of humanity.

Many sections of his talk, if taken out of context, could have delighted either Pipes on the one hand or the most extreme “takfiri” muslims on the other. In other words, he spoke the truth. This misquoting is something “we” are not adverse to. The Daily Mail is bad enough. As one example, many of the Sunni / Shia **** stirrers on both sides engage in out of context quotes, provocations, and out and out lies that would beggar belief, things I would not have believe if I had not seen them with may own eyes.

It’s from both sides, and the proud individuals who refuse to accept this are the ones on the wrong side.

There are those who play with our sensibilities to use us as pawns, for their own “political” benefit. They are invariably individuals, or funded by individuals, who wish to preserve or seek privilege that their real worth does not merit. We all need to be on our guard against this fitna. If you want to know what’s going on, follow where their money comes from.

I would strongly encourage the person wrote the above statement to give a carefull listen to the free audio lectures by Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid on the Zaytuna Institute website, http://www.zaytuna.org/multimedia.asp You will find therein the condemnation of Western imperialism that you seek.

I wonder if the Muslim lands are weak because they are sitting on a sea of oil…

Why do you treat this article as some kind of shrine to be revered and not as a piece of writing to be engaged with.

Your response is emotional. Does every word in the well written piece read Imam Zaid Shakir or does each word possess a specific meaning?

Let me just explain that I have nothing against Imam Zaid Shakir. I wasn’t all that familiar with him before, but I know a lot of people who really like him, so if anything, I read that article expecting to have a positive reaction. That’s why I was surprised and disappointed by his message - in this one article, at least.

I also had a pretty strong reaction to that article. He seems to take the “West = civilized”, “East = uncivilized” theme and then goes even further to apply it to Muslims, describing Western Muslims as good and civilized, while describing Eastern Muslims as ignorant, barbaric mobs who are so irritating to their Western brothers and sisters that the Westerners might have to just give up on them…

And I couldn’t figure out why he dragged in the moonsighting issue, and then blamed it on the “Eastern Muslims”. We’re not the ones that can’t figure out when to start fasting or when to celebrate the Eid; we don’t have part of the community doing one thing and the other part doing another.

Very disappointing, in my opinion.

There is only one thing that can be said about Western Imperialism and that is Muslim weakness. No one is going to invade China anytime soon. THere is a reason for that. I am not suggesting we become Communist, I am suggesting that we get back to our deen and begin to look inward. Deflecting all responsibility on the kufr is a conseqeunce of Western Imperialism.

He once again pushes the Agenda of White (sorry, Western) Islam. He does this by implying that the problems the Muslims have in the world is due to the way they react to Imperialism. Zaid Shakir (if that is what is his name is) never has anything to say about Western Imperialism, but then again Hamza Hanson and Tim Winter also never have anything to say about Imperialism. Actually, Winter has gone one better and praised the barbarism of British Imperialism by refering to it as ‘noble’ in one of his essays. Also, another thing that Shakir argues for in his essay is the seperation of Western Islam and Eastern Islam without offering any theological basis.

My opinion is that Westerners (US and UK) image of Islam is due to the historical bigotry of these nations and there successful efforts to rape and pillage the countries of the Muslim East rather than what Westerners think of Muslims demonstrating over cartoons.