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	<title>Comments on: My travels: Cheshire and west Wales</title>
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		<title>By: mahir sayar</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/04/05/my_travels_cheshire_and_west_wales#comment-2969</link>
		<dc:creator>mahir sayar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d just like to say iv always been interested in languages.. i speak turkish, i am originally from chechenya, i speak arabic also..

in learning arabic it allowed me to pick up hebrew, and i can hear a few common words in hebrew - even tho the modern day hebrew is as mixed up with loan words and pronunciations as much as modern day arabic dialects like iraqy or moroccon..

however, the one common thing in the semetic languages and welsh seems to be the lack of vowels.. i mean iv never studied welsh but to the ear.. it sounds very similar... tab3an (ofcourse) not in the spoken method but.. in the fluidity of the spoken word.

i will be looking into a welsh god willing.


mahir
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d just like to say iv always been interested in languages.. i speak turkish, i am originally from chechenya, i speak arabic also..</p>

<p>in learning arabic it allowed me to pick up hebrew, and i can hear a few common words in hebrew - even tho the modern day hebrew is as mixed up with loan words and pronunciations as much as modern day arabic dialects like iraqy or moroccon..</p>

<p>however, the one common thing in the semetic languages and welsh seems to be the lack of vowels.. i mean iv never studied welsh but to the ear.. it sounds very similar&#8230; tab3an (ofcourse) not in the spoken method but.. in the fluidity of the spoken word.</p>

<p>i will be looking into a welsh god willing.</p>

<p>mahir</p>
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		<title>By: paul jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 09:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam allakum,

im welsh and im learning arabic! in welsh we greet each other with same basic word and the same sound with the same dilect as an arab saying how are you brother! amazing! not only that but when we say something is dirty its almost exactly the same word as they say it in arabic (i wont spell these words in english because the sounds cannot be pronounced) im really facinated by these links and the sounds in each of the languges, as far as im aware its only the celtic languages and arabic have these sounds in! im sure their are a lot more simularties in the language, but i dont know enough welsh or arabic to tell you! so im learning the two languages! but welsh is only a few thousound years old it shaped its language from gailec which is still around!

i have read in a few places as well as being told that arabs from yeman emigrated to mid europe around 15,000 years ago! and this is the origin of the celts! so its not that difficult to see why there are simularities in the sounds and some simular wordings! any more inforamtion on this topic would be much appreciated!

paul
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam allakum,</p>

<p>im welsh and im learning arabic! in welsh we greet each other with same basic word and the same sound with the same dilect as an arab saying how are you brother! amazing! not only that but when we say something is dirty its almost exactly the same word as they say it in arabic (i wont spell these words in english because the sounds cannot be pronounced) im really facinated by these links and the sounds in each of the languges, as far as im aware its only the celtic languages and arabic have these sounds in! im sure their are a lot more simularties in the language, but i dont know enough welsh or arabic to tell you! so im learning the two languages! but welsh is only a few thousound years old it shaped its language from gailec which is still around!</p>

<p>i have read in a few places as well as being told that arabs from yeman emigrated to mid europe around 15,000 years ago! and this is the origin of the celts! so its not that difficult to see why there are simularities in the sounds and some simular wordings! any more inforamtion on this topic would be much appreciated!</p>

<p>paul</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never trust a cruise control. If you&#039;re driving on the motorway it&#039;s important to vary your speed so you can stay alert.

Wales - well it is beautiful. But I&#039;m not sure I like the accent. I&#039;d like to know more about the Arabic link - Welsh is not related to Arabic, of course, the latter being a Semitic, rather than an Indo-European language. But there may be loan words.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never trust a cruise control. If you&#8217;re driving on the motorway it&#8217;s important to vary your speed so you can stay alert.</p>

<p>Wales - well it is beautiful. But I&#8217;m not sure I like the accent. I&#8217;d like to know more about the Arabic link - Welsh is not related to Arabic, of course, the latter being a Semitic, rather than an Indo-European language. But there may be loan words.</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum,

We get hailstones pretty often here - you get light ones and heavy ones.  They can hit pretty much any time of the year, including the middle of the summer (as happened a couple of years ago here in London - a hailstorm in July so severe that it damaged the roof panels on cars).  They often come with storms, but not always.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum,</p>

<p>We get hailstones pretty often here - you get light ones and heavy ones.  They can hit pretty much any time of the year, including the middle of the summer (as happened a couple of years ago here in London - a hailstorm in July so severe that it damaged the roof panels on cars).  They often come with storms, but not always.</p>
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		<title>By: Saracen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saracen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve uploaded some photos from my last Lake District trip 2 summers ago here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

One can only say ma shaa&#039; Allah.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve uploaded some photos from my last Lake District trip 2 summers ago here:
<a href="http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/"></a><a href="http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/">http://www.saracen.nu/2006/04/11/lake-district-photos-slideshow/</a></p>

<p>One can only say ma shaa&#8217; Allah.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu alaikum, hailstones?  You guys get hailstones?  We only get them here during bad thunderstorms or tornado weather!  Generally, if you&#039;re getting hail here, it&#039;s something to be concerned about.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaikum, hailstones?  You guys get hailstones?  We only get them here during bad thunderstorms or tornado weather!  Generally, if you&#8217;re getting hail here, it&#8217;s something to be concerned about.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Eesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Eesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.

Man, you sure know how to ruin someone&#039;s weekend...

:-(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.</p>

<p>Man, you sure know how to ruin someone&#8217;s weekend&#8230;</p>

<p>:-(</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum Abu Eesa, I looked up the meaning of *rhos* in my Welsh dictionary.  It means moor or plain, so where your acquaintance got the impression that it means head I&#039;ve no idea.  Have a look at where places with *rhos* in the name are in Wales - a lot of them are inland (like Rhosllanerchrugog near Wrexham).  The Welsh for *ra&#039;s* (head) is *pen* (as in Pendinas - fort hilltop).  So perhaps his Welsh is rather rusty.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum Abu Eesa, I looked up the meaning of <em>rhos</em> in my Welsh dictionary.  It means moor or plain, so where your acquaintance got the impression that it means head I&#8217;ve no idea.  Have a look at where places with <em>rhos</em> in the name are in Wales - a lot of them are inland (like Rhosllanerchrugog near Wrexham).  The Welsh for <em>ra&#8217;s</em> (head) is <em>pen</em> (as in Pendinas - fort hilltop).  So perhaps his Welsh is rather rusty.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Eesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Eesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa &#039;alaykum salam

I never knew about a link until I met a Welsh Historian last year:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Google &#039;Ivor Wynne Jones&#039; and you&#039;ll see more of his stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa &#8216;alaykum salam</p>

<p>I never knew about a link until I met a Welsh Historian last year:</p>

<p><a href="http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html"></a><a href="http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html">http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/if-youre-ever-feeling-down-theres-only.html</a></p>

<p>Google &#8216;Ivor Wynne Jones&#8217; and you&#8217;ll see more of his stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Saracen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saracen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though not widely travelled, I have found the Lake District to be heavenly in beauty. But it&#039;s essential that you don&#039;t follow the typical touristy track. Rather, search out the quiet places. As an example, I found that Haweswater, the reservoir for Manchester&#039;s drinking water, while barred for typical lake activities like boating and the such, is open to walkers. You can go right down from the adjacent road and the view is amazing. (You can see some photos examples in my Flickr photos linked on my blog - I will post more up soon insha Allah).

There&#039;s just something about water. Friends are always espousing the Lochs of Scotland, but I&#039;ve yet to  venture that far. My tip: seek out cottages in remote areas and go wandering in the car till you see something interesting. That&#039;s what&#039;s great about the countryside; no parking attendants!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though not widely travelled, I have found the Lake District to be heavenly in beauty. But it&#8217;s essential that you don&#8217;t follow the typical touristy track. Rather, search out the quiet places. As an example, I found that Haweswater, the reservoir for Manchester&#8217;s drinking water, while barred for typical lake activities like boating and the such, is open to walkers. You can go right down from the adjacent road and the view is amazing. (You can see some photos examples in my Flickr photos linked on my blog - I will post more up soon insha Allah).</p>

<p>There&#8217;s just something about water. Friends are always espousing the Lochs of Scotland, but I&#8217;ve yet to  venture that far. My tip: seek out cottages in remote areas and go wandering in the car till you see something interesting. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s great about the countryside; no parking attendants!</p>
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