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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3549</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SomaliExpat: if you don&#039;t identify &quot;culturally and socially&quot; with Somalis you chose the wrong nom de guerre.
Alleged casual bullying is a trivial matter compared with making an improvised weapon designed to maim or kill. I don&#039;t think it is a matter of one particular Somali custom. I think it is a consequence of contemporary Somali culture. You should say &quot;All i can say finally is that Thank god we dont live in Somalia were guns are avaible at the corner shops and supermarkets.&quot; actually.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SomaliExpat: if you don&#8217;t identify &#8220;culturally and socially&#8221; with Somalis you chose the wrong nom de guerre.
Alleged casual bullying is a trivial matter compared with making an improvised weapon designed to maim or kill. I don&#8217;t think it is a matter of one particular Somali custom. I think it is a consequence of contemporary Somali culture. You should say &#8220;All i can say finally is that Thank god we dont live in Somalia were guns are avaible at the corner shops and supermarkets.&#8221; actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3548</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone from the Islamic Brotherhood and someone who the Syrian government alleges is from the islamic Brotherhood are not necessarily the same thing, OP.

BaT:  Compare the amount of newspaper  space devoted to every Israeli incursion into Palestinian towns or villages with the amount of attention paid- then and since- to the Syrian government&#039;s slaughter of more than twenty thousand of their own citizens. You will find a hundred people- muslim or not- who know of and condemn the death of less than a hundred people in Jenin for every one that has heard of Hama.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone from the Islamic Brotherhood and someone who the Syrian government alleges is from the islamic Brotherhood are not necessarily the same thing, OP.</p>

<p>BaT:  Compare the amount of newspaper  space devoted to every Israeli incursion into Palestinian towns or villages with the amount of attention paid- then and since- to the Syrian government&#8217;s slaughter of more than twenty thousand of their own citizens. You will find a hundred people- muslim or not- who know of and condemn the death of less than a hundred people in Jenin for every one that has heard of Hama.</p>
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		<title>By: ibraheem</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3547</link>
		<dc:creator>ibraheem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great being fought by anti-muslims..So muslims must work hard..This is itself another Jihaaaaaaad..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great being fought by anti-muslims..So muslims must work hard..This is itself another Jihaaaaaaad..</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3546</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t give asylum to someone from the Muslim Brotherhood. There are many more deserving cases.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t give asylum to someone from the Muslim Brotherhood. There are many more deserving cases.</p>
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		<title>By: somali_expat</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3545</link>
		<dc:creator>somali_expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me about it Saggal :)

Its funny but ever since all this about somalia has been on the media forefront, the amount of people making proclamtions about somalia is extordinary, especially seeing that almost none of these people are somali and have any real and  substantial knowlegde about our country.

Seems like Thersites is another one of these e-trolls whos perceptions and expriences about us is nothing more then what they&#039;ve read on a few sheets of paper and in the vitural world of the net.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me about it Saggal :)</p>

<p>Its funny but ever since all this about somalia has been on the media forefront, the amount of people making proclamtions about somalia is extordinary, especially seeing that almost none of these people are somali and have any real and  substantial knowlegde about our country.</p>

<p>Seems like Thersites is another one of these e-trolls whos perceptions and expriences about us is nothing more then what they&#8217;ve read on a few sheets of paper and in the vitural world of the net.</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair aka Taqiyyah</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikhair aka Taqiyyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thersite,

&quot;How do innocent people &quot;bare some of the responsibility&quot;?&quot;

No, the Brotherhood bare some responsibility along with the Syrian response to the Brotherhood that bare some of the responsibility along with the Syrian governments and their response to the activities of the Brotherhood, who bare some responsibility along with the Syrian governmnemt. IS THAT CLEAR?



&quot;I didn&#039;t &quot;bring Israel up to you&quot; because you&#039;re a muslim but because many more people have heard of and criticised- justly enough- Israel&#039;s much more moderate actions than have heard of Hama and what happened there, let alone said something about it.&quot;

I am not &quot;many more people&quot; I am Bikhair. That was my point. Dont give me that many more people bullcrap. You mean many more Muslims, I am Muslim, you assumed my politics, and critized.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thersite,</p>

<p>&#8220;How do innocent people &#8220;bare some of the responsibility&#8221;?&#8221;</p>

<p>No, the Brotherhood bare some responsibility along with the Syrian response to the Brotherhood that bare some of the responsibility along with the Syrian governments and their response to the activities of the Brotherhood, who bare some responsibility along with the Syrian governmnemt. IS THAT CLEAR?</p>

<p>&#8220;I didn&#8217;t &#8220;bring Israel up to you&#8221; because you&#8217;re a muslim but because many more people have heard of and criticised- justly enough- Israel&#8217;s much more moderate actions than have heard of Hama and what happened there, let alone said something about it.&#8221;</p>

<p>I am not &#8220;many more people&#8221; I am Bikhair. That was my point. Dont give me that many more people bullcrap. You mean many more Muslims, I am Muslim, you assumed my politics, and critized.</p>
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		<title>By: Saggal</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3543</link>
		<dc:creator>Saggal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Somali versions of islam&quot;

Thersite,

Excuse me, what are you on about? You obviously haven&#039;t a clue about Somalis or Islam in Somalia.

versions of Islam in Somalia? You&#039;ve made my day with your ignorance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Somali versions of islam&#8221;</p>

<p>Thersite,</p>

<p>Excuse me, what are you on about? You obviously haven&#8217;t a clue about Somalis or Islam in Somalia.</p>

<p>versions of Islam in Somalia? You&#8217;ve made my day with your ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: somali_expat</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>somali_expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thersites: and what point was that exactly?

According to you, the somali&#039;s girls actions were as a result of something &#039;trival&#039; according to the native population. I highly doubt that many people in this country whatever race or faith would not consider bullying a trival matter especially when you have children in this country who are too scared to attend school and some who resort to taking their own lives as a result of bullying.

You made the assumtpion that it was common in somali culture to slah people&#039;s faces, which highlights your own ignornace. Its amazing how someon who has no knowlegde and no contact or connection with somalia/somalis or their culture is abled to make such an assertion.

This isnt about race or culture, its about a bully and her victim. That somali girl was bullied because she was an immigrant to britian and i imagine race proabably played a part too. Bullying is a horrfic thing to go thorugh and to bully someone on any ground is unacceptable. The only thing i proved to you, was that i would never stand to be bullied myself and yes resort to fighting back- if someone else started it. I personally would never insitagate violence.

You wouldnt be able to claim that my actions or thoughts are a product of some warped islamic somali culture when i was raised in this country (england) from infantcy and have more in common and identify culturally and socially with white/black/asian girls of my generation in london then i do with a somali girl born and raised back in somalia.

Had the somali girl been the instigator and the bully towards this english girl, i would have no symphathies with the somali girl. The fact that she is somali is irrevant!

All i can say finally is that Thank god we dont live in america were guns are avaible at the corner shops and supermarkets. There have been plently of instances there were a bullied victim has resorted to such extreme measures by killing those who bullied them (if they hadnt killed themselves already)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thersites: and what point was that exactly?</p>

<p>According to you, the somali&#8217;s girls actions were as a result of something &#8216;trival&#8217; according to the native population. I highly doubt that many people in this country whatever race or faith would not consider bullying a trival matter especially when you have children in this country who are too scared to attend school and some who resort to taking their own lives as a result of bullying.</p>

<p>You made the assumtpion that it was common in somali culture to slah people&#8217;s faces, which highlights your own ignornace. Its amazing how someon who has no knowlegde and no contact or connection with somalia/somalis or their culture is abled to make such an assertion.</p>

<p>This isnt about race or culture, its about a bully and her victim. That somali girl was bullied because she was an immigrant to britian and i imagine race proabably played a part too. Bullying is a horrfic thing to go thorugh and to bully someone on any ground is unacceptable. The only thing i proved to you, was that i would never stand to be bullied myself and yes resort to fighting back- if someone else started it. I personally would never insitagate violence.</p>

<p>You wouldnt be able to claim that my actions or thoughts are a product of some warped islamic somali culture when i was raised in this country (england) from infantcy and have more in common and identify culturally and socially with white/black/asian girls of my generation in london then i do with a somali girl born and raised back in somalia.</p>

<p>Had the somali girl been the instigator and the bully towards this english girl, i would have no symphathies with the somali girl. The fact that she is somali is irrevant!</p>

<p>All i can say finally is that Thank god we dont live in america were guns are avaible at the corner shops and supermarkets. There have been plently of instances there were a bullied victim has resorted to such extreme measures by killing those who bullied them (if they hadnt killed themselves already)</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3541</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somali Expat, you prove my point.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somali Expat, you prove my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/02/somali_slashing_and_syrian_repatriation#comment-3540</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; You think Syria has a problem with the Ihkwanis anymore? Yes they were completely completely utterly heavy handed but the Brotherhood have been nothing but a fitna since their beginning.&quot;
&quot;For you information I was speaking with references to the thousands of innocent people that were killed not only the brotherhood. They however bare some of the responsibility.&quot;
Both quotes from Bikhair aka Taqiyyah.

How do innocent people &quot;bare some of the responsibility&quot;? Were the Syrians enfocing muslim dress codes with extreme prejudice, perhaps?
If you mean that they bear responsibility, what do they bear responsibility for? Being ruled by a bunch of murderous Baathists or having their city invaded by a bunch of murderous bigots or both?

I didn&#039;t &quot;bring Israel up to you&quot; because you&#039;re a muslim but because many more people have heard of and criticised- justly enough- Israel&#039;s much more moderate actions than have heard of Hama and what happened there, let alone said something about it.

The fact remains, even if you think a sentence of twelve years in an iraqi prison is just puniushment for being a Muslim Brother, the fact that he has been convicted by a syrian court does not mean he was actually guilty of the &quot;crime&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; You think Syria has a problem with the Ihkwanis anymore? Yes they were completely completely utterly heavy handed but the Brotherhood have been nothing but a fitna since their beginning.&#8221;
&#8220;For you information I was speaking with references to the thousands of innocent people that were killed not only the brotherhood. They however bare some of the responsibility.&#8221;
Both quotes from Bikhair aka Taqiyyah.</p>

<p>How do innocent people &#8220;bare some of the responsibility&#8221;? Were the Syrians enfocing muslim dress codes with extreme prejudice, perhaps?
If you mean that they bear responsibility, what do they bear responsibility for? Being ruled by a bunch of murderous Baathists or having their city invaded by a bunch of murderous bigots or both?</p>

<p>I didn&#8217;t &#8220;bring Israel up to you&#8221; because you&#8217;re a muslim but because many more people have heard of and criticised- justly enough- Israel&#8217;s much more moderate actions than have heard of Hama and what happened there, let alone said something about it.</p>

<p>The fact remains, even if you think a sentence of twelve years in an iraqi prison is just puniushment for being a Muslim Brother, the fact that he has been convicted by a syrian court does not mean he was actually guilty of the &#8220;crime&#8221;.</p>
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