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		<title>By: Yakoub</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3644</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakoub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I think it is worth reading Bright&#039;s positional document, &#039;When Progressives Treat with Reactionaries: The British State’s flirtation with radical Islamism&#039; if you want to get the full flavour of his flannel. In short, it is utter tosh, and his definition of Islamism includes - as Salma Yaqoob points out - just about any Muslim with a political opinion. Bright condemns MCB for being &quot;partisan&quot;, rightly in my view, but if he thinks SMC are any less so, he needs to visit their website, which is virulently critical of Salafism and Wahhabism. It seems to me Bright has simply rehashed John Ware&#039;s &#039;two Islams&#039; thesis. Sad, coming from an otherwise distinguished journalist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I think it is worth reading Bright&#8217;s positional document, &#8216;When Progressives Treat with Reactionaries: The British State’s flirtation with radical Islamism&#8217; if you want to get the full flavour of his flannel. In short, it is utter tosh, and his definition of Islamism includes - as Salma Yaqoob points out - just about any Muslim with a political opinion. Bright condemns MCB for being &#8220;partisan&#8221;, rightly in my view, but if he thinks SMC are any less so, he needs to visit their website, which is virulently critical of Salafism and Wahhabism. It seems to me Bright has simply rehashed John Ware&#8217;s &#8216;two Islams&#8217; thesis. Sad, coming from an otherwise distinguished journalist.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3643</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 06:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;an Arab, Muslim scholar like al-Qaradawi regards it as acceptable that foreigners occupying a Muslim Arab land be attacked and killed.&quot;
As most &quot;Muslim Arab&quot; lands became so as a result of Muslim Arabs attacking and killing the previous occupiers there is a certain hypocrisy in  this attitude to anyone but a muslim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an Arab, Muslim scholar like al-Qaradawi regards it as acceptable that foreigners occupying a Muslim Arab land be attacked and killed.&#8221;
As most &#8220;Muslim Arab&#8221; lands became so as a result of Muslim Arabs attacking and killing the previous occupiers there is a certain hypocrisy in  this attitude to anyone but a muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: Lopakhin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3642</link>
		<dc:creator>Lopakhin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The problem I have is the reasons why Bright considers them less than moderate: the fact that, for example, an Arab, Muslim scholar like al-Qaradawi regards it as acceptable that foreigners occupying a Muslim Arab land be attacked and killed.&#039;

Mr Smith - I think that the problem some people have with Mr Qaradawi&#039;s position regarding Israel is that he supports attacks upon civilians inside pre-1967 Israel, i.e. what most of the world community considers to be &#039;Israel proper&#039;. He has said that, while he doesn&#039;t support attacks on civilians in, say, the UK, Israel is different because most adults are military reservists and are therefore legitimate targets. I think that does make him quite extreme in terms of respectable opinion internationally, and set him apart from people who might say that Palestinians have a right to target Israeli soldiers and settlers. (For instance, he&#039;s had a disagreement with Mayor Ken Livingstone on this matter.) Btw I don&#039;t know that Mr Bright does hold this nuanced view, I haven&#039;t read anything else he&#039;s written about the subject.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The problem I have is the reasons why Bright considers them less than moderate: the fact that, for example, an Arab, Muslim scholar like al-Qaradawi regards it as acceptable that foreigners occupying a Muslim Arab land be attacked and killed.&#8217;</p>

<p>Mr Smith - I think that the problem some people have with Mr Qaradawi&#8217;s position regarding Israel is that he supports attacks upon civilians inside pre-1967 Israel, i.e. what most of the world community considers to be &#8216;Israel proper&#8217;. He has said that, while he doesn&#8217;t support attacks on civilians in, say, the UK, Israel is different because most adults are military reservists and are therefore legitimate targets. I think that does make him quite extreme in terms of respectable opinion internationally, and set him apart from people who might say that Palestinians have a right to target Israeli soldiers and settlers. (For instance, he&#8217;s had a disagreement with Mayor Ken Livingstone on this matter.) Btw I don&#8217;t know that Mr Bright does hold this nuanced view, I haven&#8217;t read anything else he&#8217;s written about the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Saracen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saracen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yusuf, though we may come from very different approaches and leanings, I applaud the justice that you show when dealing with others. If we could all learn to be humble and respectful when dealing with others, whose opinions may even be diameterically opposed to our own, this would surely help us out of the bickering rut we so often finds ourselves in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yusuf, though we may come from very different approaches and leanings, I applaud the justice that you show when dealing with others. If we could all learn to be humble and respectful when dealing with others, whose opinions may even be diameterically opposed to our own, this would surely help us out of the bickering rut we so often finds ourselves in.</p>
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		<title>By: ali-gation</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3640</link>
		<dc:creator>ali-gation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CITY CIRCLE EVENT: WHO SHOULD UK GOVT SPEAK TO?
Friday 21st July 2006: ‘Who should the Government talk to?’ with
Martin Bright, Political editor of the New Statesman; Madeleine Bunting, Director-elect of Demos &amp; former associate editor of the Guardian; Yayha Birt, Advisor to The City Circle; and a Government spokesperson (TBC).

6.45pm - 8.30pm, 45 Crawford Place, London.

Controversy abounds about the nature and scope of the government’s current
dialogue with the British Muslim community through Muslim organisations that
are perceived to be out of touch with the reality of Muslim lives on the ground and aligned to fundamentalist Islamist parties overseas. Martin Bright has sparked new controversy with recent pieces in the New Statesman and a Channel 4 documentary to be aired later this week arguing that those &quot;representing&quot; British Muslims to government are deeply influenced by the views of Islamist political ideologues.

So is the government&#039;s engagement with Muslim groups having a moderating
influence on them or promoting Islamist fundamentalism in the UK? Does the government recognise that the Muslim community is diverse and not homogenous with &quot;one&quot; voice? Is it making an effort to hear grassroot voices or those from different strands of Muslim opinion? Should the government have a role in
aiding the creation of new indigenous British Muslim groups or is it up to
Muslim communities to mobilise themselves? Join us next week for this vital and timely debate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CITY CIRCLE EVENT: WHO SHOULD UK GOVT SPEAK TO?
Friday 21st July 2006: ‘Who should the Government talk to?’ with
Martin Bright, Political editor of the New Statesman; Madeleine Bunting, Director-elect of Demos &#038; former associate editor of the Guardian; Yayha Birt, Advisor to The City Circle; and a Government spokesperson (TBC).</p>

<p>6.45pm - 8.30pm, 45 Crawford Place, London.</p>

<p>Controversy abounds about the nature and scope of the government’s current
dialogue with the British Muslim community through Muslim organisations that
are perceived to be out of touch with the reality of Muslim lives on the ground and aligned to fundamentalist Islamist parties overseas. Martin Bright has sparked new controversy with recent pieces in the New Statesman and a Channel 4 documentary to be aired later this week arguing that those &#8220;representing&#8221; British Muslims to government are deeply influenced by the views of Islamist political ideologues.</p>

<p>So is the government&#8217;s engagement with Muslim groups having a moderating
influence on them or promoting Islamist fundamentalism in the UK? Does the government recognise that the Muslim community is diverse and not homogenous with &#8220;one&#8221; voice? Is it making an effort to hear grassroot voices or those from different strands of Muslim opinion? Should the government have a role in
aiding the creation of new indigenous British Muslim groups or is it up to
Muslim communities to mobilise themselves? Join us next week for this vital and timely debate.</p>
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		<title>By: MUSLIM UNITY</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3639</link>
		<dc:creator>MUSLIM UNITY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is anything as radical Islam.
Islam is Islam- pure. It teache love and peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is anything as radical Islam.
Islam is Islam- pure. It teache love and peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3638</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was meant to add &quot;good question?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was meant to add &#8220;good question?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3637</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why should the Foreign Office- or any other part of government- spend any money on a bunch of religionists whether they are allegedly moderate or not and whether they are representative of the so-called communities they claim to represent or not?&lt;i&gt;

&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why should the Foreign Office- or any other part of government- spend any money on a bunch of religionists whether they are allegedly moderate or not and whether they are representative of the so-called communities they claim to represent or not?</i><i></i></p>

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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/16/martin_bright_on_30_minutes#comment-3636</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should the Foreign Office- or any other part of government- spend any money on a bunch of religionists whether they are allegedly moderate or not and whether they are representative of the so-called communities they claim to represent or not?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should the Foreign Office- or any other part of government- spend any money on a bunch of religionists whether they are allegedly moderate or not and whether they are representative of the so-called communities they claim to represent or not?</p>
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