Comments on: Al-Ghurabaa and “Saved Sect” banned http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned Politics, tech and media issues from a Muslim perspective Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: raashid http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3651 raashid Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:22:32 +0000 http://www.blogistan.co.uk/ijwp/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3651 You're being far too accomodating of the official line if you beleive the so-called conveyor-belt argument about Hizb utTahrir. A more likely reason for wanting to be rid of them is that they've quite successfully pushed the idea of the recreation of the Caliphate in the Muslim world, at the expense of the secular nation state model that Western governments consider to be the only legitimate form of state authority to exist. As yet they've provided no proof at all that Hizb cause the intial mindset for people to go on to become terrorists, relying soley on the fact that one of the failed would-be suicide bombers who went to Israel had a few Hizb leaflets at his house, something Muslims all over the country probably have considering leafleting is one of the main activities of the group. You’re being far too accomodating of the official line if you beleive the so-called conveyor-belt argument about Hizb utTahrir. A more likely reason for wanting to be rid of them is that they’ve quite successfully pushed the idea of the recreation of the Caliphate in the Muslim world, at the expense of the secular nation state model that Western governments consider to be the only legitimate form of state authority to exist. As yet they’ve provided no proof at all that Hizb cause the intial mindset for people to go on to become terrorists, relying soley on the fact that one of the failed would-be suicide bombers who went to Israel had a few Hizb leaflets at his house, something Muslims all over the country probably have considering leafleting is one of the main activities of the group.

]]> By: George Carty http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3650 George Carty Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:27:20 +0000 http://www.blogistan.co.uk/ijwp/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3650 I think the reason why the government was worried about Hizb ut-Tahrir was because they could act as a gateway to Islamist extremist terrorism, just as in the USA the John Birch Society was a gateway to violent right-wing extremism. I think the reason why the government was worried about Hizb ut-Tahrir was because they could act as a gateway to Islamist extremist terrorism, just as in the USA the John Birch Society was a gateway to violent right-wing extremism.

]]> By: Old Pickler http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3649 Old Pickler Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:56:12 +0000 http://www.blogistan.co.uk/ijwp/mt.php/2006/07/17/al-ghurabaa_and_saved_sect_banned#comment-3649 I think you're right - they will disband and re-group more informally. I wasn't in favour of banning Hizb ut Tahrir, not, of course, because I agree with them, but because it will drive them underground. I like to know what these people are up to. In theory they are non-violent, but I don't trust them. I think you’re right - they will disband and re-group more informally.

I wasn’t in favour of banning Hizb ut Tahrir, not, of course, because I agree with them, but because it will drive them underground. I like to know what these people are up to. In theory they are non-violent, but I don’t trust them.

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