http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&search=%22alex%20jones%22

Look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8

If you don’t think that the government is capable of carrying out attacks like that on their own people, then you only need to look at Operation Northwoods, which is a decalssified document available on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

The parallels are startling.

Do your own research. It doesn’t matter if “these theories just makes us look nuts” because we should only accept the truth, whether people like it or not, whether people think we are crazy or not.

There is so much evidence of complicity, and books have been written about this topic.

And if you think that 7/7 was an open and shut simple case too, then you need to do your research on that too:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

Some have more evidence than others, however. There is no reason to think that radicals- a better term than “the left”- after all, there were no jews in “the left” when the word originated and had meaning- are “intrinsically jewish”. However, in countries where jews are persecuted or considered inferior then those jews who become involved in politics will tend to be intrinsically radical and either opposed to the existing system of government or government or wish to change its attitudes.

“So now even zionists are anti-semitic.”

Not “even zionists”, particularly zionists. It depends on the reasons people are zionists of course.

“What are their definitions?”

Anything up to and including people who don’t think killing all Israelis is a good idea or anyone with relatives in Israel.

“So nothing to say about the original Bolsheviks?”

Well, the Bund was a strong jewish democratic socialist organisation that the bolsheviks hated and there were a higher proportion of jews in the mensheviks than the bolsheviks. Certainly the bolshevik hatred of both nationality and religion and national and religious self-definition meant that jews would be hated under both definitions- epitomised by ex-jews such as Trotsky.

“Slave owners didn’t necessarily have to hate their slaves. Whereas anti-semites generally do hate jews. I just used that as an example. Fascism was not ideologically anti-semitic the way Nazism was. Of course you’re not intending to use fascism in it’s real sense but rather in the pukka leftist sense which basically comes down to “someone who isn’t nice”.”

Many anti-semites also tend to admire jews. They think jews have all the virtues non-jews ought to have- intelligence, clannishness, racial and religious unity, family loyalty, for example. All that’s wrong with them is that they’re jews. If I had meant fascism “in the pukka leftist sense which basically comes down to “someone who isn’t nice”.” I’d have called Stalin a fascist, surely? Actually, I’m neither pukka nor leftist, so you are doubly mistaken there. I use fascism in the common sense of a centralised dictatorship with strong emphasis on political, cultural and national unity and the importance of the state and the nation and centralised corporatist economic policies. How do you use it?

It’s also been suggested that the “Left” is intrinsically jewish. By Hitler for example. It’s also been suggested that gentiles are intrinsically anti-semitic. A lot of theories have been suggested.

It’s also worth remembering that zionism was a product of anti-semitism. Early zionists accepted the accepted the accusations of anti-semites- rootless cosmopolitans, as Stalinists later put it- and thought that it was only by returning to their native country that they could lose these stigmata.

So now even zionists are anti-semitic.

Their definitions of zionism and zionists, however, are pretty encompassing.

What are their definitions?

I don’t know about Lenin’s Tomb, but, as I said, the real Lenin’s successor was anti-semitic.

So nothing to say about the original Bolsheviks?

As for Mussolini having a jewish mistress, the fact that many slave-owners had slave mistresses doesn’t mean they were opposed to slavery.

Slave owners didn’t necessarily have to hate their slaves. Whereas anti-semites generally do hate jews. I just used that as an example. Fascism was not ideologically anti-semitic the way Nazism was. Of course you’re not intending to use fascism in it’s real sense but rather in the pukka leftist sense which basically comes down to “someone who isn’t nice”.

That’s why I said diferent factions.

as they dislike being reminded- many fascist policies were similar to “left-wing” policies. In fact, many self-announced left-wingers now are anti-zionist and aren’t at all fussy if that includes anti-semitism too.

What are you talking about?

From what I can tell anti-zionist left-wingers (if Lenin’s Tomb is a fair representation of them) don’t tolerate anti-semitism.Plus classical marxism is anti-nationalist by nature so of course they’re going to be anti-zionist.

More to the point where did you get the idea that fascism was anti-zionist or anti-semitic?

Mussolini was supportive of zionism and he had a jewish mistress. There’s nothing ideologically anti-semitic about fascism and that’s getting a really tiresome thing to repeat.

“Whereas different factions of left-wingers do accuse eachother and others of being fascists and anti-semites.” Well, “left-wingers” is a pretty inexact term, and- much as they dislike being reminded- many fascist policies were similar to “left-wing” policies. In fact, many self-announced left-wingers now are anti-zionist and aren’t at all fussy if that includes anti-semitism too. Certainly, islamophobia is an imbecilic word.

No.

Shi’ites don’t call Sunnis islamophobes despite their disagreement. Whereas different factions of left-wingers do accuse eachother and others of being fascists and anti-semites.

Though I still dislike the term islamophobia.