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	<title>Comments on: The Divine Right of Politicians</title>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-25527</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The trouble with BNP is basically they have no such understanding of obedience&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s some truth to what you say. If you are to remain a member of the BNP then you must exhibit the utmost obedience to Gri££in and his Welshpool Clique. Thousands of BNP members are loyal and obedient to Gri££in but others, including myself, refused to comply with what they consider to be an iron fisted dictator who refuses to even listen to alternatives from rank and file members, so they end up resigning from or being expelled from the party.

&lt;i&gt;except predatory opportunism&lt;/i&gt;

Gri££in is a political chameleon. He latches onto whatever is the flavour of the month issue and tells people what they want to hear regardless of whether he believes it or not.

Gri££in was recently in a televised debate with a leader of a Christian political party. He announced that he was an Anglican. I have been informed several times that Gri££in is a Wodenist. I doubt he has changed religion and only stated he is an Anglican in order to maintain harmony and respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The trouble with BNP is basically they have no such understanding of obedience</i></p>

<p>There&#8217;s some truth to what you say. If you are to remain a member of the BNP then you must exhibit the utmost obedience to Gri££in and his Welshpool Clique. Thousands of BNP members are loyal and obedient to Gri££in but others, including myself, refused to comply with what they consider to be an iron fisted dictator who refuses to even listen to alternatives from rank and file members, so they end up resigning from or being expelled from the party.</p>

<p><i>except predatory opportunism</i></p>

<p>Gri££in is a political chameleon. He latches onto whatever is the flavour of the month issue and tells people what they want to hear regardless of whether he believes it or not.</p>

<p>Gri££in was recently in a televised debate with a leader of a Christian political party. He announced that he was an Anglican. I have been informed several times that Gri££in is a Wodenist. I doubt he has changed religion and only stated he is an Anglican in order to maintain harmony and respect.</p>
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where this is taking, but the topic of this post is a classic example of how the only virtue in politics is obedience. Brown believed it, and he expected to be rewarded by his &quot;mates&quot;.

The trouble with BNP is basically they have no such understanding of obedience, except predatory opportunism. That only results in the creation of criminal minds and chaos as it makes difficult to keep the unity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where this is taking, but the topic of this post is a classic example of how the only virtue in politics is obedience. Brown believed it, and he expected to be rewarded by his &#8220;mates&#8221;.</p>

<p>The trouble with BNP is basically they have no such understanding of obedience, except predatory opportunism. That only results in the creation of criminal minds and chaos as it makes difficult to keep the unity.</p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-25485</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have managed to successfully prove that the BNP is pro-Israeli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have managed to successfully prove that the BNP is pro-Israeli.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-25455</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is ethnic. In fact, in England, as members of the largest and  most dominant &lt;i&gt;ethnos, the English, however defined, are more ethnic than anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is ethnic. In fact, in England, as members of the largest and  most dominant <i>ethnos, the English, however defined, are more ethnic than anyone else.</i></p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-25434</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A smack in the face but the EDL isn&#039;t racist. It has plenty of ethnic members and I have seen them myself. I even got talking to an Asian former Muslim and a Chinese couple in their 20s, all of which held strong grievances against Islam. I really wish people would state the facts rather than portraying things as what they want them to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A smack in the face but the EDL isn&#8217;t racist. It has plenty of ethnic members and I have seen them myself. I even got talking to an Asian former Muslim and a Chinese couple in their 20s, all of which held strong grievances against Islam. I really wish people would state the facts rather than portraying things as what they want them to be.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-25432</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, it looks like the something similar has happened to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://infantile-and-disorderly.com/2009/09/05/english-defense-league-in-muslim-marriage-blunder/&quot;&gt;racist yobs of the English Defence League&lt;/a&gt;!

What goes around, comes around...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, it looks like the something similar has happened to the <a href="http://infantile-and-disorderly.com/2009/09/05/english-defense-league-in-muslim-marriage-blunder/">racist yobs of the English Defence League</a>!</p>

<p>What goes around, comes around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalaamu alaikum,

Yusuf, I had to laugh when I came here to read the comments, and the first &quot;ad by Google&quot; on the right was asking me to &quot;say thanks to Tony Blair: send a thank you note to the British for helping the USA in Iraq&quot; (at www.thankyoutony.com).

Thanks, but no thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalaamu alaikum,</p>

<p>Yusuf, I had to laugh when I came here to read the comments, and the first &#8220;ad by Google&#8221; on the right was asking me to &#8220;say thanks to Tony Blair: send a thank you note to the British for helping the USA in Iraq&#8221; (at <a href="http://www.thankyoutony.com">http://www.thankyoutony.com</a>).</p>

<p>Thanks, but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the real point of elections is that it makes it less likely for authoritarianism to arise. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s principally about the public getting what it wants.I think the promise of policies is just a way of luring people to vote and so keep the machine working.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

More precisely, elections provide a government with &lt;i&gt;legitimacy&lt;/i&gt;.  This helps to distinguish between &quot;rightful ruler&quot; and &quot;usurper&quot;.

An illegitimate government (for example, that of a dictator who shot his way into power) is inherently vulnerable to coups and civil wars.  Illegitimate rulers often cripple their own armies to forestall this possibility, which of course makes their states vulnerable to foreign invaders.

It seems to me that for a very large part of its history, the Islamic world has been held back by the illegitimacy of its rulers.  Think of how newly crowned Ottoman sultans murdered all their brothers out of fear of succession wars -  there is almost no way for genuine reform or technological progress to happen in a regime where rulership is determined by lethal palace intrigue.

More recently, Saddam Hussein was so fearful of a coup against him that during the Iran-Iraq war he murdered all his best generals!  Fortunately for him, the Iranian army was equally crippled by the purges of the Shahist officer corps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think the real point of elections is that it makes it less likely for authoritarianism to arise. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s principally about the public getting what it wants.I think the promise of policies is just a way of luring people to vote and so keep the machine working.</blockquote>

<p>More precisely, elections provide a government with <i>legitimacy</i>.  This helps to distinguish between &#8220;rightful ruler&#8221; and &#8220;usurper&#8221;.</p>

<p>An illegitimate government (for example, that of a dictator who shot his way into power) is inherently vulnerable to coups and civil wars.  Illegitimate rulers often cripple their own armies to forestall this possibility, which of course makes their states vulnerable to foreign invaders.</p>

<p>It seems to me that for a very large part of its history, the Islamic world has been held back by the illegitimacy of its rulers.  Think of how newly crowned Ottoman sultans murdered all their brothers out of fear of succession wars -  there is almost no way for genuine reform or technological progress to happen in a regime where rulership is determined by lethal palace intrigue.</p>

<p>More recently, Saddam Hussein was so fearful of a coup against him that during the Iran-Iraq war he murdered all his best generals!  Fortunately for him, the Iranian army was equally crippled by the purges of the Shahist officer corps.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/13/the_divine_right_of_politicians#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real point of elections is that it makes it less likely for authoritarianism to arise. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s principally about the public getting what it wants.I think the promise of policies is just a way of luring people to vote and so keep the machine working.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real point of elections is that it makes it less likely for authoritarianism to arise. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s principally about the public getting what it wants.I think the promise of policies is just a way of luring people to vote and so keep the machine working.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those people who cynically believes that if voting actually changed anything they&#039;d make it illegal. Bliar, Brown, Thatcher, Bush.... what&#039;s the difference?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those people who cynically believes that if voting actually changed anything they&#8217;d make it illegal. Bliar, Brown, Thatcher, Bush&#8230;. what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
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