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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-4004</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weren&#039;t many Islamic conquests only made possible by Christian intolerance?

The Muslims won the Battle of Yarmuk thanks to the defection of the Monophysite Christian Ghassanids (brutally persecuted by the Greek-Orthodox Byzantines).

The Jews of 8th-century Spain, literally enslaved by the Visigoths, became a very handy fifth column for the Umayyad invaders.

Catholic intolerance towards Orthodox Christians - illustrated so brutally by the 4th Crusade - led to &quot;better the turban than the mitre&quot;.  The Orthodox decided that keeping their faith - even as dhimmis - was preferable to forced conversion to Catholicism.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t many Islamic conquests only made possible by Christian intolerance?</p>

<p>The Muslims won the Battle of Yarmuk thanks to the defection of the Monophysite Christian Ghassanids (brutally persecuted by the Greek-Orthodox Byzantines).</p>

<p>The Jews of 8th-century Spain, literally enslaved by the Visigoths, became a very handy fifth column for the Umayyad invaders.</p>

<p>Catholic intolerance towards Orthodox Christians - illustrated so brutally by the 4th Crusade - led to &#8220;better the turban than the mitre&#8221;.  The Orthodox decided that keeping their faith - even as dhimmis - was preferable to forced conversion to Catholicism.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Milner</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t mitigate your own guilt by pointing out the greater guilt of other. But with over six hundred years of Inquisition involving the most hideous tortures, followed by execution (including burning at the stake) on Catholicism’s rap sheet, claiming that Islam carries the greater guilt burden, takes an unmitigated gall. We are talking of hundreds of thousands of victims here, possibly millions. Compared with Catholicism, the Third Reich was a collage hazing party that got a little out of hand. You really believe an apology wipes the slate clean? Not in my book it doesn&#039;t. Besides, you were trying to decimate the greatest deception in history, and murder anyone that disagreed. A religion of love, tolerance and forgiveness? Give me a break.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t mitigate your own guilt by pointing out the greater guilt of other. But with over six hundred years of Inquisition involving the most hideous tortures, followed by execution (including burning at the stake) on Catholicism’s rap sheet, claiming that Islam carries the greater guilt burden, takes an unmitigated gall. We are talking of hundreds of thousands of victims here, possibly millions. Compared with Catholicism, the Third Reich was a collage hazing party that got a little out of hand. You really believe an apology wipes the slate clean? Not in my book it doesn&#8217;t. Besides, you were trying to decimate the greatest deception in history, and murder anyone that disagreed. A religion of love, tolerance and forgiveness? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-4002</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;His comment that Islam &quot;simply does not have the separation of the political and religious sphere that Christianity has had from the beginning&quot; is true about Islam and false about his own religion, which has for centuries, in fact most of its history as a Roman rather than Semitic religion, been deeply politically involved.&lt;/i&gt;

Except in the field of intolerance of non-believers, Islam is far more political than Catholicism.  If you selected a pre-20th century Catholic country at random the chances are it would be governed by some variant of Roman law (of pre-Christian origin), while a randomly selected pre-20th century Muslim country would probably be governed by Shari&#039;ah law.

Also, Catholic Christendom traditionally separated religious governance (the Pope) from secular governance (the Holy Roman Emperor).  The Islamic Caliphs on the other hand combined both these roles in one man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>His comment that Islam &#8220;simply does not have the separation of the political and religious sphere that Christianity has had from the beginning&#8221; is true about Islam and false about his own religion, which has for centuries, in fact most of its history as a Roman rather than Semitic religion, been deeply politically involved.</i></p>

<p>Except in the field of intolerance of non-believers, Islam is far more political than Catholicism.  If you selected a pre-20th century Catholic country at random the chances are it would be governed by some variant of Roman law (of pre-Christian origin), while a randomly selected pre-20th century Muslim country would probably be governed by Shari&#8217;ah law.</p>

<p>Also, Catholic Christendom traditionally separated religious governance (the Pope) from secular governance (the Holy Roman Emperor).  The Islamic Caliphs on the other hand combined both these roles in one man.</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-4001</link>
		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really pRickler? whats that about acknowledging violent past? I guess thats the reason you supported terrorism against the people of Iraq. BNP scum.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really pRickler? whats that about acknowledging violent past? I guess thats the reason you supported terrorism against the people of Iraq. BNP scum.</p>
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		<title>By: the satirical muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-4006</link>
		<dc:creator>the satirical muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Supernanny in Somalia: Putting Protesters in the Naughty Corner&lt;/strong&gt;

As Muslim crowds, angered by Papal intimations that Islam encourages violence, continue to burn Papal effigies and call for the Pope to be killed, the United Nations has enacted a special emergency plan formulated in the aftermath of the War of the Dan...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Supernanny in Somalia: Putting Protesters in the Naughty Corner</strong></p>

<p>As Muslim crowds, angered by Papal intimations that Islam encourages violence, continue to burn Papal effigies and call for the Pope to be killed, the United Nations has enacted a special emergency plan formulated in the aftermath of the War of the Dan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shamil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this ultra-conservative Catholic website did report the Hamas story.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl_mideast_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl_mideast_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl_mideast_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this ultra-conservative Catholic website did report the Hamas story.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html"></a><a href="http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html">http://www.romancatholicreport.com/index.html</a></p>

<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl_mideast_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110"></a><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl_mideast_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110">http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/wl<em>mideast</em>afp/vaticanpopeislam_060917141110</a></p>
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		<title>By: han</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-3999</link>
		<dc:creator>han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yusuf, I just became aware that Hamas did condemn the attacks on Churches in the West Bank, saying that Palestinian Christians &#039;are full fledged citizens and partners in sorrow and happiness&#039; and that Hamas will not allow any violent action against those Churches or Palestinian Christians. They&#039;ve urged the PA security to provide protection to the Churches.
Why doesn&#039;t this get reported at the same time as the news of the vandalism?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yusuf, I just became aware that Hamas did condemn the attacks on Churches in the West Bank, saying that Palestinian Christians &#8216;are full fledged citizens and partners in sorrow and happiness&#8217; and that Hamas will not allow any violent action against those Churches or Palestinian Christians. They&#8217;ve urged the PA security to provide protection to the Churches.
Why doesn&#8217;t this get reported at the same time as the news of the vandalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Check the bloody history of Catholicism&lt;/i&gt;

The Catholic Church has acknowledged its own bloody history. In fact the last Pope apologised for the Crusades.

Muslims do not seem willing to acknowledge Islam&#039;s own violent past.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Check the bloody history of Catholicism</i></p>

<p>The Catholic Church has acknowledged its own bloody history. In fact the last Pope apologised for the Crusades.</p>

<p>Muslims do not seem willing to acknowledge Islam&#8217;s own violent past.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Milner</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2006/09/18/pope_criticises_anjem_embarrasses#comment-3997</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check the bloody history of Catholicism: Then remember the Pope said Islam was spread by the sword. What’s the word I’m reaching for here? Hypocrisy perhaps, even though it never quite made the Seven Deadly Sins. Impossible to even estimate the deaths and suffering Mother Church was responsible for. &quot;Inquisition&quot; is all you need say and even that’s not the whole story. If Christianity were judged by its history, who would be Christian? But I ask you, how else should it be judged.
Now step back: The coming conflict will be Christianity and Islam. Radical Muslims literally shot themselves in the foot by over reacting. Threatening to kill the Pope: Now that’s guaranteed to get all Catholics on side. Nice one Your Holiness. Shame about the &quot;infallibility&quot; part, but Vatican policy makers must have surely realised that this piece of Mediaeval BS needed updating. Remember, in politics nothing happens by accident.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the bloody history of Catholicism: Then remember the Pope said Islam was spread by the sword. What’s the word I’m reaching for here? Hypocrisy perhaps, even though it never quite made the Seven Deadly Sins. Impossible to even estimate the deaths and suffering Mother Church was responsible for. &#8220;Inquisition&#8221; is all you need say and even that’s not the whole story. If Christianity were judged by its history, who would be Christian? But I ask you, how else should it be judged.
Now step back: The coming conflict will be Christianity and Islam. Radical Muslims literally shot themselves in the foot by over reacting. Threatening to kill the Pope: Now that’s guaranteed to get all Catholics on side. Nice one Your Holiness. Shame about the &#8220;infallibility&#8221; part, but Vatican policy makers must have surely realised that this piece of Mediaeval BS needed updating. Remember, in politics nothing happens by accident.</p>
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		<title>By: han</title>
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		<dc:creator>han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, it pretty much sums up how I feel. I&#039;d like to add that the some of the reactions are far more offensive and insulting to Islam and the Prophet (pbuh). Isn&#039;t there a way to make those Muslims aware how offensive and damaging their actions are to Islam and Muslims, that instead of defending the Prophet (pbuh) they actually do the opposite?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, it pretty much sums up how I feel. I&#8217;d like to add that the some of the reactions are far more offensive and insulting to Islam and the Prophet (pbuh). Isn&#8217;t there a way to make those Muslims aware how offensive and damaging their actions are to Islam and Muslims, that instead of defending the Prophet (pbuh) they actually do the opposite?</p>
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