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How long have you been following them Yusuf? Are you saying bad behaviour and lax hijab are characteristic of MPAC members? Have you inspected/met everyone of them? Have you inspected every sister and her hijab? I think your above statement amounts to back biting…as far as i can tell from your posts you have only met with some mpacers once or twicw and you reported on that meeting to the Zionist website Engage before that you had complained about them many times….as Utbah says. By all means mpac should be critiqued indeed they hightlight the importance of accountability so they should expect to be held accountable. However accountability and constructive criticism are very different to insults: by accusing the sisters of lax hijab and the all the men of bad behaviour you are insulting/generalising mpac previously you have described them as clowns and morons and ‘two sandwiches short of a picnic’: these are insults and very offensive.

Nor have you ever mentioned any of tyhe good work they have done the alerts they have written, the enemies of Islam they have refuted, the campaigns they have highlighted, they even posted one of your articles on site and gave you publicity but all you do is call them names and question their iman.

I would ask brothers and sisters to read the mpac site and make up their own minds and not listen to back biting: i think i should mention something positive about mpac i really liked their 12 point plan as did my mosque:

http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/663/39/

Which blog was this?

“I have never spied on MPACUK for anyone, so get your facts right.”

I have made that statement from your own actions, not myself or asghars.

“It is never a secret when an organisation has an election.”

Are you really having a laugh? Did you know the MP which MPACUK took out was going to stand for BICOM? Do you know when AIPAC has their elections?

When it comes to an organisation which is defending the Muslim Community, it’s internal matters stays internal. No external (especially Zionist organisaitons) have no right to know about it.

They say MCB does represent Muslim, who the hell asked them to speak who represents the Muslim Community?

“what I object to is the way MPACUK take up matters with their fellow Muslims.”

Yes, we can agree and disagree on these matters. But the reality is our Sisters are turning to prostitution because our Mosques are not opening their doors to these women. Isn’t that sick? The servants of Allah turning to prostitution to make their living because they have family problems? Our youth are blowing us up in our own country. Isn’t that sickening? Mosques still do not represent or have anyone who represents the Muslim youth. Why is that.

Those Mosque’s which turn a blind eye to our communities problems must be challenged. If you care so much about the Ummah. Why don’t you write up an action plan and implement one so you can show it to MPACUK that it has been tried and tested. How about that?

I hope you can come out openly as to where you stand on other issue’s which MPACUK have raised such as Women on Committee Board, the educational aspect and social matters for Muslim women.

MA: I watched the programme and have been following MPACUK for a few years, and the tactics and behaviour, and the lax hijab, are perfectly consistent with what I’ve seen of them in person and online. They (the men far worse than the women) do not behave as rational individuals, they expect people to just behave as they want them to, they display totally un-Islamic behaviour such as cursing the Muslims in Blackburn for voting for Jack Straw and insulting people with language like “pacified muppet”, and they do not respond positively to criticism of their behaviour. As far as they are concerned, people who criticise them just don’t get it.

As for the women and their hijab, I wasn’t calling for them to dress in long black shifts with niqab, but for them to wear the proper dress when approaching conservative Muslims to demand prayer space and access to the mosque, because it’s appropriate dress for the mosque and because prayer is invalid for a woman without it. I support the right of a woman to have mosque prayer space, but that campaign is just an embarrassment to those who demand it.

Rather than deal with the issues at hand and respect women as intelligent individuals capable of making choices these people say that if you want us to listen to you or take your arguments seriously you must first conform to our preconceived norms, culture, and modes of dress.

This way, it seems that there is just going to be more tension and aggression between the brothers and sisters, and more fitnah than anything else.

May Allah guide us all to the Correct Way and make us successful in this world and in the Hereafter, ameen!

I just downloaded and viewed the program and I think the negative comments are unjustified. Women should be allowed to pray in every masjid and certainly should not be prevented or attacked for wanting to pray. The approach could have be different but so what?

Personally, I would have preferred the sisters to come out for fajr and isha first before the jumuah but the fact remains sisters are unjustly and physically prevented from praying in some of the masajid. One more reason I would not want to live in the UK but if I was there I would be right there fighting with them. May Allah grant them success in opening the masajid for the sisters. Ameen.

http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/2927/34/

They have 179 comments so far and it seems there are far more negative ones about the programme than positive ones.

I don’t think it challenged the sterotypes but rather confirmed stereotypes particularly regarding the men who control mosques.

Zayba, the problem was the entire approach the women took. It was sad that the men and women were shouting at each other in front of a camera for the entire non-muslim nation to see. Is this the way sensible Muslims get their way - to try and disgrace the other group to the whole nation? It would have been far better to just have had sensible talks with the mosque leaders, possibly involving scholars, at a time when it was convenient for them to do so.

Also I noticed that some of the men were praying jummah outside the mosque. That obviously shows there is not enough praying space in the mosque.

Do the sisters really think that even more men should be thrown out just to fit the women when it isn’t even compulosry for the women but it for the men?

Far better for the women to donate money to the mosque and help them build extensions to get more space so both more men and women can pray.