It depends on how, precisely, people “dress differently” and what comes about when they “observe their faith” as to whether they should be considered desirable citizens. If- as I’ve pointed out several times- they already are citizens, there isn’t much to do but laugh at them and leave them to their own abominable devices. If they wish to become citizens then the people of the country they wish to become citizens of have the right to consider whether they would improve that country’s condition. Given the beliefs, attitudes and behaviour of some muslims it is very reasonable for others to wonder whether they would be welcome fellow-citizens. Those same beliefs, attitudes and behaviour, however, also make it dubious whether such people can sincerely become citizens of a nonmuslim country, for as members of the world-wide brotherhood of muslims- and members in belief and act rather than vague rhetoric- they are inevitably divided from other citizens by their loyalties..

People say they dress in a particular way because they are devout muslims. Devout muslims are expected not only to dress in particular ways but to have particular beliefs and behave in particular ways- among other things, when they can, devout muslims think it is their “business what others choose to wear”- and that they have the right to enforce their prejudices on others. Therefore a country is entitled to be dubious about letting people like that in and- if they do let them in for humanitarian reasons- about giving them citizenship. Religio-political bigots who are already citizens we have to put up with. That’s no reason to accept more though.

Yes Britian ISN’T an islamic country and never will be, so the sooner these women adapt to the culture of their host country, the sooner integration will occur.

If some members of the muslim community are unable to conform to British norms, if they’ve no will or ability or are too ignorant to incpororate themselves into the mainstream, then perhaps they should go and live someplace else.

That way many conflicts can be avoided.

I was referring specifically to BaT’s claim that: ” My guess is that many of these people are looking for work, and oppurtunity.” when i said: “It is also the right of the people expected to provide work, opportunity or shelter to decide the terms on which they will provide it. ” I made it clear that “it must put up with those of its citizens that do” dress up in silly clothes. Of course, there is still the question of whether religio-political bigots who became citizens under false pretences should be permitted to claim the rights of citizens when they have no intention of fulfilling the duties of citizens. I can see that you would support that policy, but, then, you would, wouldn’t you?