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	<title>Comments on: Manal Omar, the &#8216;burkini&#8217;, the rude busybody and the local media</title>
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		<title>By: Amani Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amani Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fine selection of full cover swimwear can be viewed here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.modestswimshop.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.modestswimshop.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine selection of full cover swimwear can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.modestswimshop.com">http://www.modestswimshop.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Burkini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burkini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Burkini can be bought online from here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://modestswimsuits.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
- modestswimsuits.co.uk
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Burkini can be bought online from here:
<a href="http://modestswimsuits.co.uk">
- modestswimsuits.co.uk
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		<title>By: Enn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manal, if you read this, you should not let people bother you about clothes or a bathing suit for that matter. Its religion that wants us to be do a hijab, not any culture.
If people have issues with a bathing suit, its only because they think somebody made them the authority. As Komal said, nobody bothers to say anything about those who wear the bare minimum. Let people be, you live your life. If they think Islam is so conservative, bent upon killing women or something its their erroneous belief.
And I appreciate what you are doing for women all over the world. Peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manal, if you read this, you should not let people bother you about clothes or a bathing suit for that matter. Its religion that wants us to be do a hijab, not any culture.
If people have issues with a bathing suit, its only because they think somebody made them the authority. As Komal said, nobody bothers to say anything about those who wear the bare minimum. Let people be, you live your life. If they think Islam is so conservative, bent upon killing women or something its their erroneous belief.
And I appreciate what you are doing for women all over the world. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Komal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Komal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read both Manal Omars and this article and I must say that although her article is attacking all of Oxford rather than the obnoxious man (Cadwell, his name was I think.) who humiliated her, this is extreemely bias. So this woman wants to wear a 5 piece bathign suit, so what?

Do we turn our heads at those who wear the bare minimum when takign a dip in the pool? I should think not. So why must we criticize her for doign what she belives in? She is not hurting anyone, nor is she being disrespectful. To have a debate over something so trivial is immature. It is a bathign suit we are discussing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read both Manal Omars and this article and I must say that although her article is attacking all of Oxford rather than the obnoxious man (Cadwell, his name was I think.) who humiliated her, this is extreemely bias. So this woman wants to wear a 5 piece bathign suit, so what?</p>

<p>Do we turn our heads at those who wear the bare minimum when takign a dip in the pool? I should think not. So why must we criticize her for doign what she belives in? She is not hurting anyone, nor is she being disrespectful. To have a debate over something so trivial is immature. It is a bathign suit we are discussing.</p>
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		<title>By: IbuDewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>IbuDewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 05:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I have already responded to this but also struck me that Manal&#039;s swimsuit really not so different to the cover-all swimsuits we encourage children (and adults) to wear in Australia to protect the skin from burning and skin cancer.  Check out the Kombi adn the Surf comp suits in particular:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I have already responded to this but also struck me that Manal&#8217;s swimsuit really not so different to the cover-all swimsuits we encourage children (and adults) to wear in Australia to protect the skin from burning and skin cancer.  Check out the Kombi adn the Surf comp suits in particular:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344"></a><a href="http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344">http://www.cancervic.org.au/store/new/browse.asp?ContainerID=2344</a></p>
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		<title>By: IbuDewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>IbuDewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teacher of teenage Muslim girls, I say &quot;Go Manal!&quot;.  The broad acceptance of this kind of swimwear while mean that no Muslim girl needs to drop out of swimming once she hits puberty.  Continuing swimming throughout the teenage years and into adulthood is important not only for the girls own health and safety but also for any children they might have in the future.  How can a mother supervise her own children swimming if she can&#039;t swim herself?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teacher of teenage Muslim girls, I say &#8220;Go Manal!&#8221;.  The broad acceptance of this kind of swimwear while mean that no Muslim girl needs to drop out of swimming once she hits puberty.  Continuing swimming throughout the teenage years and into adulthood is important not only for the girls own health and safety but also for any children they might have in the future.  How can a mother supervise her own children swimming if she can&#8217;t swim herself?</p>
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		<title>By: Saggal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saggal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Palubiski,

You sad, sad Islamophobe, have I got news for you. While you&#039;ve been busy abusing us Muslim women for wanting to dress the way we choose, some of our non-Muslim sisters have been distributing the link to the five-piece swimwear shop and it looks likely some of them will join us in our choice of swimwear...what have you to say now?? Read it here and weep, you goon:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Did you see this post?

&quot;...I shared the link to the swimsuit-maker among my friends and those of us with red and blonde hair, and the skin to match, all decided that we rather liked the swimsuit. To be able to swim without burning! As we all become more conscious of skin cancer I suspect there will be a growing demand for the burkini or something similar among women of other faiths and none.
Farah Mendlesohn
London&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Palubiski,</p>

<p>You sad, sad Islamophobe, have I got news for you. While you&#8217;ve been busy abusing us Muslim women for wanting to dress the way we choose, some of our non-Muslim sisters have been distributing the link to the five-piece swimwear shop and it looks likely some of them will join us in our choice of swimwear&#8230;what have you to say now?? Read it here and weep, you goon:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html"></a><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html">http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2063919,00.html</a></p>

<p>Did you see this post?</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8230;I shared the link to the swimsuit-maker among my friends and those of us with red and blonde hair, and the skin to match, all decided that we rather liked the swimsuit. To be able to swim without burning! As we all become more conscious of skin cancer I suspect there will be a growing demand for the burkini or something similar among women of other faiths and none.
Farah Mendlesohn
London&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The better question is why Palpablinsky isn&#039;t waging the crusade he so craves. I have yet to meet a dumber islamophobe online then this cretin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The better question is why Palpablinsky isn&#8217;t waging the crusade he so craves. I have yet to meet a dumber islamophobe online then this cretin.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Palubiski  said &quot;Had this backward ninny any courage whatsoever, she&#039;d be in Iran engaging in &quot;resistance&quot; by challenging the beatings, the violence and the intimidation of Bronze-Age morality squads
But she isn&#039;t.
She&#039;s in Iraq promoting the same backward dysfunctional mentalities and mindsets that lead to the creation of morality squads, so what does that TELL YOU of her commitment to &quot;choice&quot;?&quot;


Do you really think risking one&#039;s life to advocate for women&#039;s rights is &quot;backward mentalities?&quot; Really? I reiterate my comment about intellectual capacity.

Perhaps you and the Iranian  clerics should meet-up since you both think you know better than women what&#039;s best for them (silly girls).

BTW, do you really think Manal lacks courage because she risks her life in Iraq and not Iran? I volunteer my time to help developmentally disabled adults and yet, I&#039;m starting to lose patience with your lack of logic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Palubiski  said &#8220;Had this backward ninny any courage whatsoever, she&#8217;d be in Iran engaging in &#8220;resistance&#8221; by challenging the beatings, the violence and the intimidation of Bronze-Age morality squads
But she isn&#8217;t.
She&#8217;s in Iraq promoting the same backward dysfunctional mentalities and mindsets that lead to the creation of morality squads, so what does that TELL YOU of her commitment to &#8220;choice&#8221;?&#8221;</p>

<p>Do you really think risking one&#8217;s life to advocate for women&#8217;s rights is &#8220;backward mentalities?&#8221; Really? I reiterate my comment about intellectual capacity.</p>

<p>Perhaps you and the Iranian  clerics should meet-up since you both think you know better than women what&#8217;s best for them (silly girls).</p>

<p>BTW, do you really think Manal lacks courage because she risks her life in Iraq and not Iran? I volunteer my time to help developmentally disabled adults and yet, I&#8217;m starting to lose patience with your lack of logic.</p>
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		<title>By: dawud</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in case John, who can&#039;t be expected to remember what he writes day-by-day, including the following: &lt;i&gt;Some here seem to think it racist and intolerant to boot out individuals who arrived, uninvited, on the heels of a brutal mililtary conquest.
It isn&#039;t.&lt;/i&gt; [See here](http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/04/16/abdulhakim_murad_the_churches#comment-173602)

the following was in response:
John, you&#039;re the one who rationalized murder the other day, saying that it was justified for Serbians to kill muslim Bosnians as &#039;interlopers&#039; ... So, please do tell me more about how to become humane and tolerant, like you, Milosevic and Karadzic?

and then writes this today: &lt;i&gt;That&#039;s mainly the fault of muslim women themselves. Their arrogance and supremacism is the root casue of their difficulties adapting&lt;/i&gt;

I do think you mean &#039;cause.&#039; But do try to spell out what you mean, because I know you know what arrogance and supremacis[t] ideologies are, probably intimately...

and then this: &lt;i&gt;Muslim women have the world&#039;s highest rates of illiteracy and the lowest rates of eduction.
That&#039;s a fact, not a mere &quot;perception&quot;.
And backward tribal societies characterised by racid theocratic diktats don&#039;t class as &quot;cultures&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

You know, I really hate the rabid and racist governments in Iran and Saudi Arabia, but one thing they do do is women&#039;s education, the country with the highest percentage of women with university degrees is Iran. I don&#039;t know if you live in Scratch-assistan, but there are lot of educated muslim women out there who will resent your comment highly.

Manal Omar is very well-educated, and since she&#039;s Iraqi, she probably learnt Arabic literature in Saddam&#039;s schools, and English in England - but she can still put a few words together more clearly than you, John. But don&#039;t worry, she won&#039;t come here to school you, she probably doesn&#039;t bother herself with every &quot;101st fighting keyboarder&quot; out there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in case John, who can&#8217;t be expected to remember what he writes day-by-day, including the following: <i>Some here seem to think it racist and intolerant to boot out individuals who arrived, uninvited, on the heels of a brutal mililtary conquest.
It isn&#8217;t.</i> <a href="http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/04/16/abdulhakim_murad_the_churches#comment-173602">See here</a></p>

<p>the following was in response:
John, you&#8217;re the one who rationalized murder the other day, saying that it was justified for Serbians to kill muslim Bosnians as &#8216;interlopers&#8217; &#8230; So, please do tell me more about how to become humane and tolerant, like you, Milosevic and Karadzic?</p>

<p>and then writes this today: <i>That&#8217;s mainly the fault of muslim women themselves. Their arrogance and supremacism is the root casue of their difficulties adapting</i></p>

<p>I do think you mean &#8216;cause.&#8217; But do try to spell out what you mean, because I know you know what arrogance and supremacis[t] ideologies are, probably intimately&#8230;</p>

<p>and then this: <i>Muslim women have the world&#8217;s highest rates of illiteracy and the lowest rates of eduction.
That&#8217;s a fact, not a mere &#8220;perception&#8221;.
And backward tribal societies characterised by racid theocratic diktats don&#8217;t class as &#8220;cultures&#8221;.</i></p>

<p>You know, I really hate the rabid and racist governments in Iran and Saudi Arabia, but one thing they do do is women&#8217;s education, the country with the highest percentage of women with university degrees is Iran. I don&#8217;t know if you live in Scratch-assistan, but there are lot of educated muslim women out there who will resent your comment highly.</p>

<p>Manal Omar is very well-educated, and since she&#8217;s Iraqi, she probably learnt Arabic literature in Saddam&#8217;s schools, and English in England - but she can still put a few words together more clearly than you, John. But don&#8217;t worry, she won&#8217;t come here to school you, she probably doesn&#8217;t bother herself with every &#8220;101st fighting keyboarder&#8221; out there.</p>
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