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	<title>Comments on: The mega mosque petition (updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If another religious community wanted to build a mega-temple or mega-church, it would no doubt be subject to the same procedure as this mosque.  As it is, the term &quot;mega mosque&quot; was invented by the project&#039;s opponents; it is large because it is to be used as a school, library and a centre for religious gatherings besides ritual prayers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If another religious community wanted to build a mega-temple or mega-church, it would no doubt be subject to the same procedure as this mosque.  As it is, the term &#8220;mega mosque&#8221; was invented by the project&#8217;s opponents; it is large because it is to be used as a school, library and a centre for religious gatherings besides ritual prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is totally unacceptable why not a big Hindu mega temple. Or a mega christian church or buddist. Why a Mosque?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is totally unacceptable why not a big Hindu mega temple. Or a mega christian church or buddist. Why a Mosque?</p>
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		<title>By: Islamic Circles</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>Islamic Circles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islamic Circles Presents

TERROR MOSQUE, OLYMPIC MOSQUE OR WEST HAM MOSQUE

Date: Friday 7th September 2007
Time: 6.15 pm - 8.30 pm
Venue: Ithaca House, 27 Romford Rd, Stratford, London E15 4LJ

A debate with Abdul Khaliq Mian (Newham Respect Coalition) and
Councillor Alan Craig (Newham Christian People&#039;s Alliance).

Far away from the oil fields of the Middle East, in the early
1990s, members of the Anjuman Welfare Trust (Tablighi Jamaat)
through sheer sweat and hard work in the rag-tag factories of
East London, managed to purchase a disused and contaminated
area of land near Abbey Mills from Newham Council with an
intention to serve the growing needs of the Muslim community
in East London and beyond, by building a mosque and community
centre.

If we now fast forward to 2007 - post 9/11, 7/7, Iraq and
Afghanistan wars, and the announcement that the 2012 Olympic
Games are to be held in London, we have a situation where
this non-descript piece of land in East London has become
the subject of intense controversy, capturing the attention
of both local and international media.

Nearly 1 in 8 Londoners consider themselves to be Muslim.
Up to half of those living near the area where the Olympic
Games will be taking place are Muslim. Up to a third of the
countries participating will be Muslim majority nations.
So why is it that certain individuals supported by neo-con
think tanks and Zionist inclined newspapers have decided to
target this project, whose administrators are affiliated
to Tablighi Jamaat, a worldwide movement known for being
apolitical? Why is this mosque project being labelled as
a potential source of terrorist activities just because
some of the individuals involved happen to share similar
theological roots as the Taliban?

Is it not ironic that this is happening now despite all
the talk of diversity and multiculturalism - one of the
principal reasons why London won. Note the hijab wearing
children on the TV screens when London&#039;s victory was
announced in contrast to the recent French experience
of &quot;Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité&quot;. What is all the fuss
about? Will the area become an &quot;Islamic Emirate of
Stratford&quot; or perhaps something more akin to a Cordoba
of the past - a shining example of genuine tolerance,
diversity and civilisation?

To debate the issue we have Abdul Khaliq Mian who has been
an active member of the community in Newham over the last
30 years. He has contributed significantly towards the
development of the West Ham mosque project and is currently
a member of the Respect Party. His counterpart will be Alan
Craig, councillor for the Canning Town South ward in Newham.
He is leader of the Christian People&#039;s Alliance group and
has actively campaigned against the mosque claiming that the
Tablighi Jamaat are funded by the Saudis and have terrorist
links, and that the project would damage community relations
if it were to go ahead.

All welcome and free entrance - just turn up.

Rail / Tube: Stratford Station

Directions:
5min walk from Stratford Station, close to Ibis Stratford Hotel.

Map: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&amp;y=184519&amp;z&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&amp;y=184519&amp;z&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&amp;y=184519&amp;z&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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For more details and to attend please contact:
Tel: 07956 983 609
E-mail: info@islamiccircles.org
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamic Circles Presents</p>

<p>TERROR MOSQUE, OLYMPIC MOSQUE OR WEST HAM MOSQUE</p>

<p>Date: Friday 7th September 2007
Time: 6.15 pm - 8.30 pm
Venue: Ithaca House, 27 Romford Rd, Stratford, London E15 4LJ</p>

<p>A debate with Abdul Khaliq Mian (Newham Respect Coalition) and
Councillor Alan Craig (Newham Christian People&#8217;s Alliance).</p>

<p>Far away from the oil fields of the Middle East, in the early
1990s, members of the Anjuman Welfare Trust (Tablighi Jamaat)
through sheer sweat and hard work in the rag-tag factories of
East London, managed to purchase a disused and contaminated
area of land near Abbey Mills from Newham Council with an
intention to serve the growing needs of the Muslim community
in East London and beyond, by building a mosque and community
centre.</p>

<p>If we now fast forward to 2007 - post 9/11, 7/7, Iraq and
Afghanistan wars, and the announcement that the 2012 Olympic
Games are to be held in London, we have a situation where
this non-descript piece of land in East London has become
the subject of intense controversy, capturing the attention
of both local and international media.</p>

<p>Nearly 1 in 8 Londoners consider themselves to be Muslim.
Up to half of those living near the area where the Olympic
Games will be taking place are Muslim. Up to a third of the
countries participating will be Muslim majority nations.
So why is it that certain individuals supported by neo-con
think tanks and Zionist inclined newspapers have decided to
target this project, whose administrators are affiliated
to Tablighi Jamaat, a worldwide movement known for being
apolitical? Why is this mosque project being labelled as
a potential source of terrorist activities just because
some of the individuals involved happen to share similar
theological roots as the Taliban?</p>

<p>Is it not ironic that this is happening now despite all
the talk of diversity and multiculturalism - one of the
principal reasons why London won. Note the hijab wearing
children on the TV screens when London&#8217;s victory was
announced in contrast to the recent French experience
of &#8220;Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité&#8221;. What is all the fuss
about? Will the area become an &#8220;Islamic Emirate of
Stratford&#8221; or perhaps something more akin to a Cordoba
of the past - a shining example of genuine tolerance,
diversity and civilisation?</p>

<p>To debate the issue we have Abdul Khaliq Mian who has been
an active member of the community in Newham over the last
30 years. He has contributed significantly towards the
development of the West Ham mosque project and is currently
a member of the Respect Party. His counterpart will be Alan
Craig, councillor for the Canning Town South ward in Newham.
He is leader of the Christian People&#8217;s Alliance group and
has actively campaigned against the mosque claiming that the
Tablighi Jamaat are funded by the Saudis and have terrorist
links, and that the project would damage community relations
if it were to go ahead.</p>

<p>All welcome and free entrance - just turn up.</p>

<p>Rail / Tube: Stratford Station</p>

<p>Directions:
5min walk from Stratford Station, close to Ibis Stratford Hotel.</p>

<p>Map: <a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&#038;y=184519&#038;z"></a><a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&#038;y=184519&#038;z">http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=539150&#038;y=184519&#038;z</a>
=0&#038;sv=E15+4LJ&#038;st=2&#038;pc=E15+4LJ&#038;mapp=newmap.srf&#038;searchp=newsearch.srf</p>

<p>For more details and to attend please contact:
Tel: 07956 983 609
E-mail: <a href="mailto:info@islamiccircles.org">info@islamiccircles.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to my world Yusuf - where you have to deal with mud-slinging from little kids with no sense of nuance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to my world Yusuf - where you have to deal with mud-slinging from little kids with no sense of nuance.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Funza</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Funza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaams,

I don&#039;t understand how you can link this to MPACUK - they are doing good work and I don&#039;t see the connection with this person and his actions.

Just because mpac have the balls to hold our leaders to account I don&#039;t see that as a chink in their tactics but I thank them for standing up against these so-called mosque leaders.

Fiamaanallah,
Abu Funza
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaams,</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you can link this to MPACUK - they are doing good work and I don&#8217;t see the connection with this person and his actions.</p>

<p>Just because mpac have the balls to hold our leaders to account I don&#8217;t see that as a chink in their tactics but I thank them for standing up against these so-called mosque leaders.</p>

<p>Fiamaanallah,
Abu Funza</p>
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		<title>By: Faraz</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Faraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu&#039;alaykum,
I too had this petition promoted in my comments, but I think doing so truly reduces the value of the petition.  First of all, it is open only to British citizens, so if Canadians and Americans and the rest of the Muslim blogosphere interfere, it would only reduce the credibility of the petition.  Secondly, the wording struck me as odd and oblivious to the purpose of the construction.

You&#039;re right, it&#039;s supposed to be a &quot;markaz&quot;, and not a &quot;mega mosque&quot;.  Calling it such will only strengthen the voices against it.  From my understanding, this markaz will function in much the same way as the current Dewsbury Markaz; it is a discredit to that centre and to the effort of Tabligh worldwide to call their masjids &quot;mega-mosques&quot;; it reduces them to commercial venues popularized only by their size and budget rather than the effort that drives these masaajid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu&#8217;alaykum,
I too had this petition promoted in my comments, but I think doing so truly reduces the value of the petition.  First of all, it is open only to British citizens, so if Canadians and Americans and the rest of the Muslim blogosphere interfere, it would only reduce the credibility of the petition.  Secondly, the wording struck me as odd and oblivious to the purpose of the construction.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s supposed to be a &#8220;markaz&#8221;, and not a &#8220;mega mosque&#8221;.  Calling it such will only strengthen the voices against it.  From my understanding, this markaz will function in much the same way as the current Dewsbury Markaz; it is a discredit to that centre and to the effort of Tabligh worldwide to call their masjids &#8220;mega-mosques&#8221;; it reduces them to commercial venues popularized only by their size and budget rather than the effort that drives these masaajid.</p>
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		<title>By: b.</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam;

I was also requested to post about the so-called &#039;mega mosque&#039; by Br. Jamal in my comments; I waffled back and forth for several days because he paid no attention to my blog: I am not British, nor are most of my readers (predominantly Americans and Canadians), and it is really one of my blogging pet peeves to have people use my comment section to advertise their own agendas.  Furthermore, Br. Jamal stated in one of his posts that he believed construction would go on anyway regardless of all these petitions swirling around and I thought that just made approving his comment doubly pointless!

But it was when I visited his blog again this evening (before I came over to your blog) and saw the rants against you that decided me.  I will not be a part of a slanderous assault against a brother in Islam.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam;</p>

<p>I was also requested to post about the so-called &#8216;mega mosque&#8217; by Br. Jamal in my comments; I waffled back and forth for several days because he paid no attention to my blog: I am not British, nor are most of my readers (predominantly Americans and Canadians), and it is really one of my blogging pet peeves to have people use my comment section to advertise their own agendas.  Furthermore, Br. Jamal stated in one of his posts that he believed construction would go on anyway regardless of all these petitions swirling around and I thought that just made approving his comment doubly pointless!</p>

<p>But it was when I visited his blog again this evening (before I came over to your blog) and saw the rants against you that decided me.  I will not be a part of a slanderous assault against a brother in Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: jamal</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1469</link>
		<dc:creator>jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not see the relevance of this point regarding Christians starting the petition as it is more then you have done.  Seeing that many Christians are the “closest people in friendship to the believers”, while many Christians are married to Muslims, there is nothing wrong with this. If you really believes that “surely Muslims should be starting their own petition”, then you should have already done this yourself rather then sitting at you computer slandering the efforts of others, comparing the petition to al-Muhajiroun paraphernalia and encouraging others not to sign the petition to build  that which benefits Muslims.

For the rest of my response;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see the relevance of this point regarding Christians starting the petition as it is more then you have done.  Seeing that many Christians are the “closest people in friendship to the believers”, while many Christians are married to Muslims, there is nothing wrong with this. If you really believes that “surely Muslims should be starting their own petition”, then you should have already done this yourself rather then sitting at you computer slandering the efforts of others, comparing the petition to al-Muhajiroun paraphernalia and encouraging others not to sign the petition to build  that which benefits Muslims.</p>

<p>For the rest of my response;</p>

<p><a href="http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/"></a><a href="http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/">http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/2007/06/02/support-the-mega-mosque-dont-be-a-yusuf-smith/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Radical Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/06/02/the_mega_mosque_petition_updated#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>Radical Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Support the Mega Mosque&#8230;. don&#8217;t be a Yusuf Smith&lt;/strong&gt;

As Muslims, sometimes we wonder why it is that despite the abundance of Knowledge, minerals, wealth and sheer numbers amongst the worldwide community of Islam, we are still globally oppressed, particularly in Palestine, Sudan, Iraq, etc.  If we look ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Support the Mega Mosque&#8230;. don&#8217;t be a Yusuf Smith</strong></p>

<p>As Muslims, sometimes we wonder why it is that despite the abundance of Knowledge, minerals, wealth and sheer numbers amongst the worldwide community of Islam, we are still globally oppressed, particularly in Palestine, Sudan, Iraq, etc.  If we look &#8230;</p>
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