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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Radical&#8221; books in east London libraries</title>
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		<title>By: Zanjabila</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/09/06/radical_books_in_east_london_libraries#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Zanjabila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Russia, Wahhab&#039;s work has been put on the government list of books banned as &quot;extremist literature&quot;. In one of the Russian Federation&#039;s republics (namely Dagestan) Russian-language translations of the Quran have also been made illegal. Part of the vicious repression of Muslims taking place in today&#039;s Russia...

&quot;try asking what really makes people commit acts of terorism&quot; -- Indeed, why should we, while Reagan&#039;s former &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Assistant Secretary of the Treasury&lt;/a&gt;, a former &lt;a href=&quot;http://911review.com/articles/vonbuelow/tagesspiegel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;German Cabinet Minister&lt;/a&gt;, and the former &lt;a href=&quot;http://911review.com/articles/ivashov/globalterrorism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chief of Staff of Russia&#039;s armed forces&lt;/a&gt; are telling us loud and clear that we are witnessing &lt;a href=&quot;http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;false flag attacks&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?

Wa salaam
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Russia, Wahhab&#8217;s work has been put on the government list of books banned as &#8220;extremist literature&#8221;. In one of the Russian Federation&#8217;s republics (namely Dagestan) Russian-language translations of the Quran have also been made illegal. Part of the vicious repression of Muslims taking place in today&#8217;s Russia&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8220;try asking what really makes people commit acts of terorism&#8221; &#8212; Indeed, why should we, while Reagan&#8217;s former <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm">US Assistant Secretary of the Treasury</a>, a former <a href="http://911review.com/articles/vonbuelow/tagesspiegel.html">German Cabinet Minister</a>, and the former <a href="http://911review.com/articles/ivashov/globalterrorism.html">Chief of Staff of Russia&#8217;s armed forces</a> are telling us loud and clear that we are witnessing <a href="http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html"><i>false flag attacks</i></a>?</p>

<p>Wa salaam</p>
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		<title>By: Yunus Yakoub Islam</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/09/06/radical_books_in_east_london_libraries#comment-1791</link>
		<dc:creator>Yunus Yakoub Islam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so annoying about reports like this is the assumption that Muslims are inherently psychopathic: apparently, on taking the shahadah, a mere flick through a book by Mawdudi or Ibn Tammiyah, and - hey presto - off we trot to blow someone up. Perhaps one day, someone other than a foaming at the mouth Neocon might try asking what really makes people commit acts of terorism.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so annoying about reports like this is the assumption that Muslims are inherently psychopathic: apparently, on taking the shahadah, a mere flick through a book by Mawdudi or Ibn Tammiyah, and - hey presto - off we trot to blow someone up. Perhaps one day, someone other than a foaming at the mouth Neocon might try asking what really makes people commit acts of terorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, oh brave one, I&#039;m sure even you have realised that the vast majority of statements highlighted by the report have nothing objectionable in them from even your point of view.  Perhaps you might try and promote &#039;Umdat asSalik and see how many fans you get in Tower Hamlets council?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, oh brave one, I&#8217;m sure even you have realised that the vast majority of statements highlighted by the report have nothing objectionable in them from even your point of view.  Perhaps you might try and promote &#8216;Umdat asSalik and see how many fans you get in Tower Hamlets council?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asSalamu alaykum,

As for Shaykh bin Baz and the whole flat Earth issue, I never did find a source for those claims.  This should help, insha Allah:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/0040819.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/0040819.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/0040819.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(these are actually the words of bin Baz, rahimahullah- they used to have the audio file there, but I don&#039;t know where it has gone).

However, we should also remember that the shaykh was a geocentricist (a position on which I&#039;m not aware of any dissent except for very recently in history).  Martin Lings once said he never could trace the point at which heliocentricism reached the Muslim world (I&#039;ll assume it was the colonial period).

Other than that we have your usual negligence, which passes over the fact that much or even most of what these writers criticise is genuinely Muslim practice/belief (e.g. polygyny, belief in magic etc) regardless of sectarian persuasion.

But I suppose you and your spineless brethren fail to mention that, which is perhaps why &#039;traditional&#039; Muslims aren&#039;t at the receiving end of so much flak.  I wonder, if Tower Hamlets had received similar complaints about copies of &#039;Umdat asSalik, whether you would have been singing the same tune.  But consistency always goes down the toilet with you, doesn&#039;t it Yusuf?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asSalamu alaykum,</p>

<p>As for Shaykh bin Baz and the whole flat Earth issue, I never did find a source for those claims.  This should help, insha Allah:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/0040819.htm"></a><a href="http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/0040819.htm">http://www.fatwa-online.com/fa.....040819.htm</a>
(these are actually the words of bin Baz, rahimahullah- they used to have the audio file there, but I don&#8217;t know where it has gone).</p>

<p>However, we should also remember that the shaykh was a geocentricist (a position on which I&#8217;m not aware of any dissent except for very recently in history).  Martin Lings once said he never could trace the point at which heliocentricism reached the Muslim world (I&#8217;ll assume it was the colonial period).</p>

<p>Other than that we have your usual negligence, which passes over the fact that much or even most of what these writers criticise is genuinely Muslim practice/belief (e.g. polygyny, belief in magic etc) regardless of sectarian persuasion.</p>

<p>But I suppose you and your spineless brethren fail to mention that, which is perhaps why &#8216;traditional&#8217; Muslims aren&#8217;t at the receiving end of so much flak.  I wonder, if Tower Hamlets had received similar complaints about copies of &#8216;Umdat asSalik, whether you would have been singing the same tune.  But consistency always goes down the toilet with you, doesn&#8217;t it Yusuf?</p>
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