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	<title>Comments on: In denial about our speed habit?</title>
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		<title>By: Freeborn</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/12/09/in_denial_about_our_speed_habit#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Freeborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speed cameras are a road-charging scam.

People who claim otherwise are in denial.Evidently they cannot bring themselves to believe that the people who run our country want just to make as much money out of motorists as they can.

They are also in denial re-the obvious fact that since most accidents are not caused by speed but bad anticipation,inattention i.e.bad driving-the cameras have no impact whatever on the rate of accidents.

The cameras are blatantly placed to make money not to protect pedestrians.Drivers pass the cameras they know at painfully slow speed and return to normal driving.That is driving according to the road conditions,visibility etc.

Drivers have developed a whole set of habits or survival instincts,of which they themselves are probably not even aware.

But we all know when we are driving safely and well and conversely when we&#039;re driving badly and dangerously.

If we need speed cameras to tell us what our intuitive reflex driving habits derived from concrete experience in real situations already tell us-then we probably should not be on the road in the first place.

The speed camera lobby are now assuring us that we need to pay to use the roads again on top of the already excessive road tax we already pay.

There&#039;s a mafia in this country  now and it&#039;s the same corporate mafia that are leading our government to attack countries which are no threat to us.

Capita,for example you may have heard of,part of the Carlyle Group.Ringing any bells yet?

Yes,they&#039;re not exactly known for their commitment to public safety but they are known to have secured billions via government contracts.

Right now Capita rake in the Congestion Fines from Livingston&#039;s London scam via secret offices in Coventry.

Note:we are talking Fine not Charge.70% of the revenue comes from fines not the Charge.

If you don&#039;t live in London they bank on you knowing nothing whatever about Livingstone&#039;s insistence on pre-payment of the Charge.

So,frightened by terrorist outrages conveniently blamed on Islamist extremists,the same guys we were told worked for Saddam Hussein,you get in your car and drive down to London.

You have no idea  that you&#039;re going to be corralled as soon as you arrive into the camera corridor.

Here-if the photo of your car suggests to Capita in Coventry that you have the wherewithal to pay the fine you will get hit with the £50 fine for not having paid the charge.

The scam has nothing to do with reducing congestion but everything to do with filling the pockets of Capita and Livingstone with motorists&#039; money.

So if you still think they&#039;re a bunch of terrorist motorists out there determined to drive fast and dangerously,and to deliberately cause traffic congestion in our cities- then you volunteer to pay tax to the government.

The rest of us are just not that dumb.

The speed camera and road-charge lobby will in 2012 laud Livingstone to the skies(The Times and Polly Toynbee already have)for his magnanimity in  waiving the Congestion Charge for the duration of the Olympic Games.

Doesn&#039;t it remind you of Giuliani in New York?
The reason being that,unlike the mugs like you and me who drove into London without knowing anything re-the working of Congestion Charge,the foreigners who arrive do not represent a viable recovery project for the corporate mafia that hijacked our country.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speed cameras are a road-charging scam.</p>

<p>People who claim otherwise are in denial.Evidently they cannot bring themselves to believe that the people who run our country want just to make as much money out of motorists as they can.</p>

<p>They are also in denial re-the obvious fact that since most accidents are not caused by speed but bad anticipation,inattention i.e.bad driving-the cameras have no impact whatever on the rate of accidents.</p>

<p>The cameras are blatantly placed to make money not to protect pedestrians.Drivers pass the cameras they know at painfully slow speed and return to normal driving.That is driving according to the road conditions,visibility etc.</p>

<p>Drivers have developed a whole set of habits or survival instincts,of which they themselves are probably not even aware.</p>

<p>But we all know when we are driving safely and well and conversely when we&#8217;re driving badly and dangerously.</p>

<p>If we need speed cameras to tell us what our intuitive reflex driving habits derived from concrete experience in real situations already tell us-then we probably should not be on the road in the first place.</p>

<p>The speed camera lobby are now assuring us that we need to pay to use the roads again on top of the already excessive road tax we already pay.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s a mafia in this country  now and it&#8217;s the same corporate mafia that are leading our government to attack countries which are no threat to us.</p>

<p>Capita,for example you may have heard of,part of the Carlyle Group.Ringing any bells yet?</p>

<p>Yes,they&#8217;re not exactly known for their commitment to public safety but they are known to have secured billions via government contracts.</p>

<p>Right now Capita rake in the Congestion Fines from Livingston&#8217;s London scam via secret offices in Coventry.</p>

<p>Note:we are talking Fine not Charge.70% of the revenue comes from fines not the Charge.</p>

<p>If you don&#8217;t live in London they bank on you knowing nothing whatever about Livingstone&#8217;s insistence on pre-payment of the Charge.</p>

<p>So,frightened by terrorist outrages conveniently blamed on Islamist extremists,the same guys we were told worked for Saddam Hussein,you get in your car and drive down to London.</p>

<p>You have no idea  that you&#8217;re going to be corralled as soon as you arrive into the camera corridor.</p>

<p>Here-if the photo of your car suggests to Capita in Coventry that you have the wherewithal to pay the fine you will get hit with the £50 fine for not having paid the charge.</p>

<p>The scam has nothing to do with reducing congestion but everything to do with filling the pockets of Capita and Livingstone with motorists&#8217; money.</p>

<p>So if you still think they&#8217;re a bunch of terrorist motorists out there determined to drive fast and dangerously,and to deliberately cause traffic congestion in our cities- then you volunteer to pay tax to the government.</p>

<p>The rest of us are just not that dumb.</p>

<p>The speed camera and road-charge lobby will in 2012 laud Livingstone to the skies(The Times and Polly Toynbee already have)for his magnanimity in  waiving the Congestion Charge for the duration of the Olympic Games.</p>

<p>Doesn&#8217;t it remind you of Giuliani in New York?
The reason being that,unlike the mugs like you and me who drove into London without knowing anything re-the working of Congestion Charge,the foreigners who arrive do not represent a viable recovery project for the corporate mafia that hijacked our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/12/09/in_denial_about_our_speed_habit#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone else around the web is making this point so coherently. It is a tragedy that both sides of the argument are missing the key and important issue of safer driving. Speed Cameras do not ensure safe driving, it would seem that they can never be everywhere and affordable, and being caught by a speed camera certainly doesn&#039;t mean that you are the victim of some kind of conspiracy.

It&#039;s really about time that this debate evolved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone else around the web is making this point so coherently. It is a tragedy that both sides of the argument are missing the key and important issue of safer driving. Speed Cameras do not ensure safe driving, it would seem that they can never be everywhere and affordable, and being caught by a speed camera certainly doesn&#8217;t mean that you are the victim of some kind of conspiracy.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s really about time that this debate evolved.</p>
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		<title>By: notanangel</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/12/09/in_denial_about_our_speed_habit#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>notanangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Germany on certain motorways there isnt really a strict speed limit.  Why can&#039;t the UK have a simmilar system?

In cities and towns however, it is important to have a speed limit.  especially in areas with housing, hospital and schools to name but some important zones.  The problem is that the speed limits are not really abided by - the only way would be by encouraging the big brother state to use the GPS system, which they are probably thinking of anyway for road taxation purposes!

White Van drivers - put them on a special watch.  They drive like they are a law unto themselves.  maybe some sort of whitevanwatch website can picture the drivers of the white vans....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany on certain motorways there isnt really a strict speed limit.  Why can&#8217;t the UK have a simmilar system?</p>

<p>In cities and towns however, it is important to have a speed limit.  especially in areas with housing, hospital and schools to name but some important zones.  The problem is that the speed limits are not really abided by - the only way would be by encouraging the big brother state to use the GPS system, which they are probably thinking of anyway for road taxation purposes!</p>

<p>White Van drivers - put them on a special watch.  They drive like they are a law unto themselves.  maybe some sort of whitevanwatch website can picture the drivers of the white vans&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2007/12/09/in_denial_about_our_speed_habit#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. I was caught doing 35 on a wide, empty, non-residential road with superb visibility. Yet people drive dangerously fast, even if it is under the speed limit, on narrow roads with schools, bends, hills and all kinds of things.

The camera, unlike a policeman, has no discretion or judgement about what is really dangerous.

I wouldn&#039;t feel so bad about my fine if they caught really dangerous drivers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. I was caught doing 35 on a wide, empty, non-residential road with superb visibility. Yet people drive dangerously fast, even if it is under the speed limit, on narrow roads with schools, bends, hills and all kinds of things.</p>

<p>The camera, unlike a policeman, has no discretion or judgement about what is really dangerous.</p>

<p>I wouldn&#8217;t feel so bad about my fine if they caught really dangerous drivers.</p>
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