What exactly is positive about MPACUK. They shout louder and louder and more and more controversially so people will notice them.

It is actually very embarassing that they claim to represent public affairs of muslims. I am a muslim and wish they would stop representing me for a start! I don’t want to be represented by an org that bashes mosques and other Muslims.

There are so many muslim individuals and orgs trying to promote themselves on the back of the wave of Islamophobia. There are very few that are effective. MPACUK does not appear to be one of them.

Yusuf,

Like you, I have not been to the LMC for a while although I seem to recall that the shop that used to sell Hijabs is no longer there or was not there the last time I visited. Neither is Casablanca, the cafe, both have became something else. The bookshop you’re thinking of might or might not still be there, what seems clear from The Times apology however(link below)is that it’s the bookshop that does not form part of the mosque that the so-called research covered -they clearly state that it’s near the mosque but not in the same premises. Perhaps the one attached to the mosque (if it still exists) didn’t have the material the PE people were after.

The LMC covers a big area and comprises several separate buildings including apartments that are,I assume, rented to the poor, or perhaps are occupied by the Imams, am not sure. And then of course there are the commercial entities including bookshops, restaurants, cafes etc.

From what I know the LMC is very open and liaises with local statutory bodies and serves the local community very well.

It is a shame the apology did not appear on The Times front page like the report did (as if).

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3059836.ece

but isnt that what you do to them you accuse all their sisters of lax hijab and say they are ‘sandwiches short of a picnic’ ‘semi-literate clowns’ ‘morons’ etc

i dont like the tone of this particular article whoever wrote it should have done better research but when they have written good articles, defended Islam, Palestine, done alerts, campaigned, told people to be active you have never mentioned that, never ever mentioned anything positive about them you are really quite a hypocrite Yusuf.

Saggal: there is also a bookshop inside East London mosque, which is to the left as you walk in. They sell books and other Islamic merchandise like hijabs. Or at least there was last time I was in there, which was a few years ago.

As for MPACUK, undiplomatic is not the word I’d use - they are incredibly loose with their tongues and they make disgraceful slanders against entire groups of Muslims with abandon.

I don’t think it’s fair to criticize MPACUK for calling some people ‘Sufis’ when they’ve been doing the same with other Muslim groups all along, since they began operating infact. If you read their previous articles you’ll see they call Salafis “Cave Muslims” and I can’t remember what they call the TJs. Their criticism has got to be understood in the context it’s made. MPACUK are not sectarian in any way,they claim they have bigger fish to fry, but yes, they could be more diplomatic.

I agree with Ismaeel, some people with strong dislike for islam are claiming attachment and affiliation to Sufis.

What I know for sure is that the bookshop in East London the “researchers” claim is evidence the LMC is selling objectionable books is not even in the same premises as the mosque. So this claim is an outright lie.

Yusuf, you know where the bookshop is in relation to the mosque don’t you? It’s a good 200-250 metres away from the mosque. It’s also a commercial outfit that’s not under the control of the mosque and has the right under British Laws to sell these books -the same books are also sold by Borders. The Times apologised to Dr. Abdul Bari for smearing the LMC based on the PE report.