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	<title>Comments on: Muslims in London: Challenge Boris Johnson tonight!</title>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you are quoting is the attitude of some modern-day Muslim intellectuals (and some of their fans) and not the position of Islam itself.  Shaikh Hamza Yusuf explained that the Islam that people are born on is *fitra* which is a kind of primeval, uncorrupt human nature, and not the religion of Islam as we know it, so the revert jargon (which some Muslims I accept are very aggressive about) is inaccurate.

None of what you mention is what Sookhdeo was alleging, however.  He was claiming that Muslims were attempting to sacralise public spaces and comparing it to Muslim territory, but the two are separate issues: only one group of Sufis hold religious marches and they are not those Muslims who carry out acts of terrorism, and Muslim territory is not the same thing as sacred ground, which consists of dedicated mosques only.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you are quoting is the attitude of some modern-day Muslim intellectuals (and some of their fans) and not the position of Islam itself.  Shaikh Hamza Yusuf explained that the Islam that people are born on is <em>fitra</em> which is a kind of primeval, uncorrupt human nature, and not the religion of Islam as we know it, so the revert jargon (which some Muslims I accept are very aggressive about) is inaccurate.</p>

<p>None of what you mention is what Sookhdeo was alleging, however.  He was claiming that Muslims were attempting to sacralise public spaces and comparing it to Muslim territory, but the two are separate issues: only one group of Sufis hold religious marches and they are not those Muslims who carry out acts of terrorism, and Muslim territory is not the same thing as sacred ground, which consists of dedicated mosques only.</p>
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		<title>By: chainlink</title>
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		<dc:creator>chainlink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Islam is a territorial religion. Any space once gained is considered sacred and should belong to the umma for ever. Any lost space must be regained -- even by force if necessary.&quot;

This seems quite true to me. I&#039;ve encountered a number of times on Muslim web pages the myth of the Arabic-speaking Muslim Indians who greeted Columbus and his Muslim navigator on their first arrival in the New World.

What&#039;s behind such utterly groundless inventions? Clearly, they serve the same function as animal piss in the wild (and to some extent in our non-Muslim, canine-inhabited back yards)--namely to mark off turf. The message is: We belong, you don&#039;t.

The same manoeuvre is made by Muslims with regard to human life itself: in their earliest origins, they say, all humans are to be seen as Muslim; if in fact they are something else, they have fallen from their natural state; if they later convert to Islam, they have in fact simply &quot;reverted&quot; to it.

Here all of humanity is essentially peed upon to mark the claim of Islam to it.

This breathtakingly vain attitude is fed by the Koran itself, I think, which is always proclaiming the sheer obviousness of its own truthfulness: not recognizing this truthfulness thus becomes by itself a sign of perversion and evil, and is automatically associated with a frenzied dedication to the extermination of Islam. So the natural faculties of humanity are piss-marked as well, as it were.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Islam is a territorial religion. Any space once gained is considered sacred and should belong to the umma for ever. Any lost space must be regained &#8212; even by force if necessary.&#8221;</p>

<p>This seems quite true to me. I&#8217;ve encountered a number of times on Muslim web pages the myth of the Arabic-speaking Muslim Indians who greeted Columbus and his Muslim navigator on their first arrival in the New World.</p>

<p>What&#8217;s behind such utterly groundless inventions? Clearly, they serve the same function as animal piss in the wild (and to some extent in our non-Muslim, canine-inhabited back yards)&#8212;namely to mark off turf. The message is: We belong, you don&#8217;t.</p>

<p>The same manoeuvre is made by Muslims with regard to human life itself: in their earliest origins, they say, all humans are to be seen as Muslim; if in fact they are something else, they have fallen from their natural state; if they later convert to Islam, they have in fact simply &#8220;reverted&#8221; to it.</p>

<p>Here all of humanity is essentially peed upon to mark the claim of Islam to it.</p>

<p>This breathtakingly vain attitude is fed by the Koran itself, I think, which is always proclaiming the sheer obviousness of its own truthfulness: not recognizing this truthfulness thus becomes by itself a sign of perversion and evil, and is automatically associated with a frenzied dedication to the extermination of Islam. So the natural faculties of humanity are piss-marked as well, as it were.</p>
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