Comments on: Well done to the anti-fascists in Cologne

By: Thersites

Thersites — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:48:00 +0000

“these people are almost identical to run of the mill Liberal Democrats after factoring out their grudge against Islam. “

Then they aren’t far right. The far right parties hope to persuade them to accept the rest of their ideology beginning with their- purely tactical, from the view of the far right- hostility to islam, but they aren’t there yet. Indeed, far right parties and political islam have a lot more in common with one another than either has with conventional political parties: the belief in the superiority of particular people, whether religiously or racially defined, the insistence on following an all-knowing all-powerful leader, the requirement of absolute and unquestioning obedience and the rejection of democratic accountability.

By: M Risbrook

M Risbrook — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:48:02 +0000

Of course there are far right individuals and organisations that worship Hitler and there will always be. More recently, many of the larger far right organisations in Europe have attracted a new breed of people who hate Islam with a vengeance but deplore Hitler and his Nazi ideology. In many cases these people are almost identical to run of the mill Liberal Democrats after factoring out their grudge against Islam. They are often happy to associate with non-Muslim ethnics and have nothing against a multicultural or multiracial society providing there are no Muslims.

By: Thersites

Thersites — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:34:49 +0000

The far right does still worship Hitler. They’ve learned that saying so loses votes so they don’t say so in public. It’s perfectly reasonable to oppose them because they’re racists and nazis and to defend people attacked by racists and nazis, no matter how ridiculous their own beliefs. In cases where muslims try to impose their prejudices on others the ‘reds’ are equally opposed to them for very good reasons.

By: M Risbrook

M Risbrook — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:30:42 +0000

I’m inclined to say that the reason the reds stormed the demonstrators is because they think they are racists and Nazis more than they are against Islam. The far right in Europe has migrated towards opposing Islam since 9/11 but the reds don’t appear to have caught up with this and still think the far right is worshipping Adolf Hitler.

A question I will fire at you is would the reds have stormed a demonstration against Islam by an outfit that opposes and condemns racism such as SIOE with as much force?

By: Ummzeno

Ummzeno — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:19:22 +0000

M Risbrook, that is a very cynical attitude. Would you have preferred the anti-Muslim rally to go ahead? If not then it extraordinarily churlish of you to object to offering thanks and congratulations to the people of Cologne who prevented it from taking place. As far as I know it is not unIslamic to keep good relations with those who seek to live in peace with us, regardless of their religious or political views.

By: M Risbrook

M Risbrook — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:40:45 +0000

Why would any Muslim want to give sympathy to people who are atheist at heart and hold decadent moral standards whilst following some twisted and corrupt religion invented by Karl Marx? Just remember how the reds treated Muslims in the Soviet Union.

Your enemy’s enemy is not necessarily your friend.