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	<title>Comments on: Tablighis: engaging in Bradford, isolating in London &#8211; or is it just a misunderstanding?</title>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
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		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have not published anything with Frontpagemag for several years&quot;

That falls far short of regret for having been published in Frontpagemag at all.

An intentional non-statement?

Who can tell, for quality of expression isn&#039;t a Schwartz forte.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have not published anything with Frontpagemag for several years&#8221;</p>

<p>That falls far short of regret for having been published in Frontpagemag at all.</p>

<p>An intentional non-statement?</p>

<p>Who can tell, for quality of expression isn&#8217;t a Schwartz forte.</p>
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		<title>By: Khalid Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khalid Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Schwartz

The &#039;loudmouth slob&#039;, the &#039;munafiq&#039; and &#039;Handsome Hanson&#039; have together been as responsible as anyone else in the English-speaking world for guiding people away from extremist Islam into the arms of true Sunni Islam. What have you done for this religion?
Allah indeed does know best.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Schwartz</p>

<p>The &#8216;loudmouth slob&#8217;, the &#8216;munafiq&#8217; and &#8216;Handsome Hanson&#8217; have together been as responsible as anyone else in the English-speaking world for guiding people away from extremist Islam into the arms of true Sunni Islam. What have you done for this religion?
Allah indeed does know best.</p>
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		<title>By: kp</title>
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		<dc:creator>kp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Scwartz
Obviously you are not aware that Sh Alawi had the greatest of love for Hamza Yusuf whome he had met over many years prior to knowing you. Highly disturbing to read what you have read as a psychologist of 15 years. It is sad but your articles are being used in many universities to highlight poor journalism in America and the UK.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Scwartz
Obviously you are not aware that Sh Alawi had the greatest of love for Hamza Yusuf whome he had met over many years prior to knowing you. Highly disturbing to read what you have read as a psychologist of 15 years. It is sad but your articles are being used in many universities to highlight poor journalism in America and the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: NP</title>
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		<dc:creator>NP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an occasional reader of this blog I was disturbed by what are surely the ugliest comments I&#039;ve read on any blog.

Mr Schwartz, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, for your disgraceful, vile manners. How disgusting.

Clearly you are willing to sink to shocking depths, name calling and backbiting and even going to the extent of labeling people munafiqs. Fear Allah and stop embarrassing yourself.

If you had any shame you would remove mention of the likes of the great Shaykh &#039;Alawi al-Maliki (rh) from your site, for not wanting anyone who doesn&#039;t know better to associate your disgusting manners with a great man such as him.

Anyone can claim sufism, but many out of sense of shame and reverence for the way of sufism would not stake such claims knowing that they fall far short of spiritual purity. Don&#039;t dirty the name of sufism and it&#039;s true adherents by associating your vile manners to it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an occasional reader of this blog I was disturbed by what are surely the ugliest comments I&#8217;ve read on any blog.</p>

<p>Mr Schwartz, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, for your disgraceful, vile manners. How disgusting.</p>

<p>Clearly you are willing to sink to shocking depths, name calling and backbiting and even going to the extent of labeling people munafiqs. Fear Allah and stop embarrassing yourself.</p>

<p>If you had any shame you would remove mention of the likes of the great Shaykh &#8216;Alawi al-Maliki (rh) from your site, for not wanting anyone who doesn&#8217;t know better to associate your disgusting manners with a great man such as him.</p>

<p>Anyone can claim sufism, but many out of sense of shame and reverence for the way of sufism would not stake such claims knowing that they fall far short of spiritual purity. Don&#8217;t dirty the name of sufism and it&#8217;s true adherents by associating your vile manners to it.</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks Comrade Sandalio doth protest a bit too much...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks Comrade Sandalio doth protest a bit too much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: UmmS</title>
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		<dc:creator>UmmS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that poor Mr. Schwartz has got his turban in a veritable twist. Not only is he isolated and irrelevant, he is being exposed as such. That must hurt!

Don&#039;t worry dear Mr. Schwartz, soon you will gone and forgotten (like the rest of us), pushing up daisies towards the sky, and no longer in worldly pain.

The services of Masud Khan and Aftab Malik to the mainstream Sunni way will live on, however, and will stand them in good stead in the aforementioned &#039;pushing up daisies&#039; stage.

I must confess, it is many years since I heard a grown man use such childish insults! I must have a sheltered existence!

Keep up the good work Bro Yusuf! Good to see you having a salutary effect!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that poor Mr. Schwartz has got his turban in a veritable twist. Not only is he isolated and irrelevant, he is being exposed as such. That must hurt!</p>

<p>Don&#8217;t worry dear Mr. Schwartz, soon you will gone and forgotten (like the rest of us), pushing up daisies towards the sky, and no longer in worldly pain.</p>

<p>The services of Masud Khan and Aftab Malik to the mainstream Sunni way will live on, however, and will stand them in good stead in the aforementioned &#8216;pushing up daisies&#8217; stage.</p>

<p>I must confess, it is many years since I heard a grown man use such childish insults! I must have a sheltered existence!</p>

<p>Keep up the good work Bro Yusuf! Good to see you having a salutary effect!</p>
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		<title>By: canlı dizi</title>
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		<dc:creator>canlı dizi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for sharing
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: Suleyman Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suleyman Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selamaleykum

So the great jahil mentor, Matthew &quot;Yusuf&quot; Smith, crawled out of his hole and under his own name, published a ridiculous statement on his blog.  Suddenly he has acquired the courage to identify himself!  Alhamdulillah!

You wrote &quot;Schwartz claims that all the prominent Muslims he has attacked are extremist; most significantly for us, they include Shaikh Hamza Yusuf. Schwartz has, in the past, claimed that Shaikh Hamza was an extremist before 9/11 and usually cites a speech he gave called &quot;Why Jihad is the Only Way&quot;. Has anyone got a transcript or MP3 of that speech?

&quot;I would like to ask if anyone has some arguments to anything Schwartz might accuse Shaikh Hamza of, or anyone who would be willing to testify, if it comes to that.

&quot;Also, who are his other targets, particularly scholars but not only, and does anyone have anything that might be given as evidence that they are not extremists?&quot;

In other words, you, the big jahil, made accusations against me without evidence, based on my comments about Handsome Hanson, the so-called adviser of Bush, but you never heard the speech by Hanson, and you have to beg for others to bring it to you.  Then you, the jahil, are reduced to asking for other arguments of mine against Hanson or anyone else &quot;willing to testify,&quot; and pleading that other targets be identified, and begging for &quot;anything that might be given as evidence.&quot;

In other words, you, the jahil, issued charges against me without knowledge of anything, and were also too lazy to look up my writings, and are now frightened and ask for support.  This is the essence of libel, in that it shows malicious, reckless disregard for the truth.

Oh, and how impressive to see that you jahils have the support of loudmouth slob Masud Khan!  Wow, what a lineup!  And you even quote Aftab Malik, another munafiq!

I feel like someone who is told that an ant has crawled over his shoe.  You are not worth dealing with.  You are vastly inflated windbags.  Rave on, morons.

I said you deserve to be called to account, and you cried like a little girl.  That&#039;s satisfaction enough for me.  Allah knows best.

Suleyman Schwartz


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selamaleykum</p>

<p>So the great jahil mentor, Matthew &#8220;Yusuf&#8221; Smith, crawled out of his hole and under his own name, published a ridiculous statement on his blog.  Suddenly he has acquired the courage to identify himself!  Alhamdulillah!</p>

<p>You wrote &#8220;Schwartz claims that all the prominent Muslims he has attacked are extremist; most significantly for us, they include Shaikh Hamza Yusuf. Schwartz has, in the past, claimed that Shaikh Hamza was an extremist before 9/11 and usually cites a speech he gave called &#8220;Why Jihad is the Only Way&#8221;. Has anyone got a transcript or MP3 of that speech?</p>

<p>&#8220;I would like to ask if anyone has some arguments to anything Schwartz might accuse Shaikh Hamza of, or anyone who would be willing to testify, if it comes to that.</p>

<p>&#8220;Also, who are his other targets, particularly scholars but not only, and does anyone have anything that might be given as evidence that they are not extremists?&#8221;</p>

<p>In other words, you, the big jahil, made accusations against me without evidence, based on my comments about Handsome Hanson, the so-called adviser of Bush, but you never heard the speech by Hanson, and you have to beg for others to bring it to you.  Then you, the jahil, are reduced to asking for other arguments of mine against Hanson or anyone else &#8220;willing to testify,&#8221; and pleading that other targets be identified, and begging for &#8220;anything that might be given as evidence.&#8221;</p>

<p>In other words, you, the jahil, issued charges against me without knowledge of anything, and were also too lazy to look up my writings, and are now frightened and ask for support.  This is the essence of libel, in that it shows malicious, reckless disregard for the truth.</p>

<p>Oh, and how impressive to see that you jahils have the support of loudmouth slob Masud Khan!  Wow, what a lineup!  And you even quote Aftab Malik, another munafiq!</p>

<p>I feel like someone who is told that an ant has crawled over his shoe.  You are not worth dealing with.  You are vastly inflated windbags.  Rave on, morons.</p>

<p>I said you deserve to be called to account, and you cried like a little girl.  That&#8217;s satisfaction enough for me.  Allah knows best.</p>

<p>Suleyman Schwartz</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After having a look at your response Yusuf&#039;s website, I decided to investigate your writings and background.

I find your writing to be totally ill informed and ignorant and down-right childish. I find it hard to believe that you have not concocted lies deliberately. You say you are against wahabism, so am I, as a follower of a sufi Sheik, I say Islam is the essence of sufism and sufism is the essence of Islam but I find you hiding behind pseudo-sufism as a thin veil to attack mainstream muslims. Just because some decides to disagree with your bigoted view of muslims, it does not automatically render him an extremist rather Mr Schwartz it seems that you are extreme in your view and all mainstream muslims disagree with your childish rantings.

Your &quot;Centre of Muslim Pluralism&quot; is a joke, a couple of guys with a shoddy website is not a centre. The only saving grace you have is that you have a picture of our beloved Sufi Sheikh Muhammad Alawi alMaliki al Makki. It should be renamed &quot;Centre of narrow minded bigots&quot;.

You said &quot;I have not published anything with Frontpagemag for several years&quot; that is no excuse whatsoever, that magazine is one of the most extreme magazines spreading filth and lies that most normal, mainstream and moderate consider it farcical.

&quot;The only &quot;prominent Muslims&quot; I denounce are extremists&quot; please stop lying, this is a total and absolute lie. Please, for the Love of God crawl out of your hole and see the truth for what it really is if you think your are sincere.... otherwise stop lying!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After having a look at your response Yusuf&#8217;s website, I decided to investigate your writings and background.</p>

<p>I find your writing to be totally ill informed and ignorant and down-right childish. I find it hard to believe that you have not concocted lies deliberately. You say you are against wahabism, so am I, as a follower of a sufi Sheik, I say Islam is the essence of sufism and sufism is the essence of Islam but I find you hiding behind pseudo-sufism as a thin veil to attack mainstream muslims. Just because some decides to disagree with your bigoted view of muslims, it does not automatically render him an extremist rather Mr Schwartz it seems that you are extreme in your view and all mainstream muslims disagree with your childish rantings.</p>

<p>Your &#8220;Centre of Muslim Pluralism&#8221; is a joke, a couple of guys with a shoddy website is not a centre. The only saving grace you have is that you have a picture of our beloved Sufi Sheikh Muhammad Alawi alMaliki al Makki. It should be renamed &#8220;Centre of narrow minded bigots&#8221;.</p>

<p>You said &#8220;I have not published anything with Frontpagemag for several years&#8221; that is no excuse whatsoever, that magazine is one of the most extreme magazines spreading filth and lies that most normal, mainstream and moderate consider it farcical.</p>

<p>&#8220;The only &#8220;prominent Muslims&#8221; I denounce are extremists&#8221; please stop lying, this is a total and absolute lie. Please, for the Love of God crawl out of your hole and see the truth for what it really is if you think your are sincere&#8230;. otherwise stop lying!</p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Schwartz,
The only ignoramus here is you. It is ironic how you can work for the Centre of Islamic Pluralism and yet alienate the &#039;ulemah and Muslims in general by discrediting worthy scholars and trying to character assassinate them at every given opportunity. Why don&#039;t you do everyone a favour and tell people what your true objective is or maybe it is simply jealousy of scholars who are far superior than yourself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Schwartz,
The only ignoramus here is you. It is ironic how you can work for the Centre of Islamic Pluralism and yet alienate the &#8216;ulemah and Muslims in general by discrediting worthy scholars and trying to character assassinate them at every given opportunity. Why don&#8217;t you do everyone a favour and tell people what your true objective is or maybe it is simply jealousy of scholars who are far superior than yourself.</p>
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