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		<title>By: HUSSEIN NAMOOYA</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/10/27/unity_but_not_much_peace_at_excel#comment-8661</link>
		<dc:creator>HUSSEIN NAMOOYA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalaamualaikum,
I am brother Hussein Namooya from Mauritius and I am a nasheed artist. My first album MARHABA JADDAL HUSSEIN is already available on Itunes music stores for digital downloads and is also available on the bizmo. Any one can listen to my nasheeds from my link on Alif Music. As a matter of fact downloads represents only 10% of sales of an album as 90%  people prefer the physical copies of the album.I am looking for a reliable promoter who can produce  my album  for sale worldwide and I am available for concerts too. Please note that  an album with a song on Gaza  entitled THE HELL IN THE GAZA STRIP will be available by end of this month
Thank you for your kind consideration
Jazak Allah Khair
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalaamualaikum,
I am brother Hussein Namooya from Mauritius and I am a nasheed artist. My first album MARHABA JADDAL HUSSEIN is already available on Itunes music stores for digital downloads and is also available on the bizmo. Any one can listen to my nasheeds from my link on Alif Music. As a matter of fact downloads represents only 10% of sales of an album as 90%  people prefer the physical copies of the album.I am looking for a reliable promoter who can produce  my album  for sale worldwide and I am available for concerts too. Please note that  an album with a song on Gaza  entitled THE HELL IN THE GAZA STRIP will be available by end of this month
Thank you for your kind consideration
Jazak Allah Khair</p>
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		<title>By: Salim</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/10/27/unity_but_not_much_peace_at_excel#comment-8660</link>
		<dc:creator>Salim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing but words of criticism for the organisers of this event. I do not think it is fair to say something like &quot;congrats for trying&quot; and &quot;its a difficult task&quot;. Yes it is difficult - but when you organise an event with so many people going it has to be spot on - safety being the main issue.

I went to the earlier events a few years back and was badly dissapointed by the organisation and content.

The next year I got in touch with the organisers about volunteering at the event and boy was I in for a shock! They couldn&#039;t even adequately (and safely) organise briefings for a few hundered volunteers! I felt that if they couldn&#039;t do that they definately weren&#039;t fit to organise an event and BE TRUSTED with the responsibility of thousands of people. I could actually see why things went badly - and I didn&#039;t want to be responsible for something that could be so wrong.

Training/briefing for the volunteers was poor. In earlier years the volunteers seemed to be there for a free ride (many people just wanted to volunteer with the VIP&#039;s) and the the volunteers who did want to help weren&#039;t equipped to deal with situations that could arise.

Before I get ticked off for critising - when you are involved in organising an event on this scale - it has to be done right or not at all. The potential for something going wrong is immense. I think that its only luck that nothing worse has happened!

I would actually not go back - and actively advise others to not bother (I do not think islamic knowledge gained or peace enhanced by this event). I actually feel its my responsibility to stop people going.

As someone at the MCMexpo commented it is more like a funfair.

The fact that the organisers didn&#039;t consider the implications of a clash with another event makes me cringe.

My advice to all is don&#039;t go and to the organisers do it properly or don&#039;t bother. There are many events organised throughout the Uk which are larger and much more organised - the organisers should employe a professinal events management company!

(ps as a side note when I attended the Islam Channel offices for the briefinh I saw boxes of credit card details (from online donations) lying around without security - any of the volunteers could have grabbed them. They were not moved until I asked staff there to take them away).

All in all less amateaur
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing but words of criticism for the organisers of this event. I do not think it is fair to say something like &#8220;congrats for trying&#8221; and &#8220;its a difficult task&#8221;. Yes it is difficult - but when you organise an event with so many people going it has to be spot on - safety being the main issue.</p>

<p>I went to the earlier events a few years back and was badly dissapointed by the organisation and content.</p>

<p>The next year I got in touch with the organisers about volunteering at the event and boy was I in for a shock! They couldn&#8217;t even adequately (and safely) organise briefings for a few hundered volunteers! I felt that if they couldn&#8217;t do that they definately weren&#8217;t fit to organise an event and BE TRUSTED with the responsibility of thousands of people. I could actually see why things went badly - and I didn&#8217;t want to be responsible for something that could be so wrong.</p>

<p>Training/briefing for the volunteers was poor. In earlier years the volunteers seemed to be there for a free ride (many people just wanted to volunteer with the VIP&#8217;s) and the the volunteers who did want to help weren&#8217;t equipped to deal with situations that could arise.</p>

<p>Before I get ticked off for critising - when you are involved in organising an event on this scale - it has to be done right or not at all. The potential for something going wrong is immense. I think that its only luck that nothing worse has happened!</p>

<p>I would actually not go back - and actively advise others to not bother (I do not think islamic knowledge gained or peace enhanced by this event). I actually feel its my responsibility to stop people going.</p>

<p>As someone at the MCMexpo commented it is more like a funfair.</p>

<p>The fact that the organisers didn&#8217;t consider the implications of a clash with another event makes me cringe.</p>

<p>My advice to all is don&#8217;t go and to the organisers do it properly or don&#8217;t bother. There are many events organised throughout the Uk which are larger and much more organised - the organisers should employe a professinal events management company!</p>

<p>(ps as a side note when I attended the Islam Channel offices for the briefinh I saw boxes of credit card details (from online donations) lying around without security - any of the volunteers could have grabbed them. They were not moved until I asked staff there to take them away).</p>

<p>All in all less amateaur</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Salihah</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/10/27/unity_but_not_much_peace_at_excel#comment-8659</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Salihah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalam-alaikam,
I had to avoid the GPU despite being offered free tickets too.  The first year I attended I absolutely loved it - the vibe, the excellent talks from statesmen and scholars and the bazaar, the only problem was there was no food.
The following two years it lost its appeal despite tons of food stalls - the bazaar was expensive due to the extortionate amounts stallholders had to pay, there were too many nasheed acts and not enough quality speakers and the awards bit both annoyed and bored me to tears (imagine spending over an hour giving yourself awards when people just want to see Zain Bhika and go home).  The use of music also put me and my husband off.  If I want to hear music I&#039;ll go to a concert, the whole point of the GPU for me is a guilt-free family day which is good for meeting other Muslims and perhaps learning something.

The other thing that got me was the mess - I was in the bazaar hall at packing up time and the mountains of rubbish were unbelievable.

All of that said, I do agree Islam Channel do have a tough job, as it&#039;s one thing to say that you cannot please everyone all of the time, but its another trying to please even a fraction of Muslims at any one time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalam-alaikam,
I had to avoid the GPU despite being offered free tickets too.  The first year I attended I absolutely loved it - the vibe, the excellent talks from statesmen and scholars and the bazaar, the only problem was there was no food.
The following two years it lost its appeal despite tons of food stalls - the bazaar was expensive due to the extortionate amounts stallholders had to pay, there were too many nasheed acts and not enough quality speakers and the awards bit both annoyed and bored me to tears (imagine spending over an hour giving yourself awards when people just want to see Zain Bhika and go home).  The use of music also put me and my husband off.  If I want to hear music I&#8217;ll go to a concert, the whole point of the GPU for me is a guilt-free family day which is good for meeting other Muslims and perhaps learning something.</p>

<p>The other thing that got me was the mess - I was in the bazaar hall at packing up time and the mountains of rubbish were unbelievable.</p>

<p>All of that said, I do agree Islam Channel do have a tough job, as it&#8217;s one thing to say that you cannot please everyone all of the time, but its another trying to please even a fraction of Muslims at any one time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can view the ENGAGE presentation here if you missed it on the day:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8222868454007028039&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8222868454007028039&amp;hl=en&lt;/a&gt;

wa salaam.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can view the ENGAGE presentation here if you missed it on the day:</p>

<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8222868454007028039&#038;hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8222868454007028039&#038;hl=en</a></p>

<p>wa salaam.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/10/27/unity_but_not_much_peace_at_excel#comment-8657</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was surely rudeness on both sides of the coin though - I believe that this is down to individuals though and certainly not the differing cultures as a whole.  I hope the culture clash has not left bad impressions on people.
There were good points and bad points of the day, and I can only hope that the organisers at ExCel take the copious amounts of feedback they will have received by now in order to improve the events in future!
I also pray that the stabbing scenario will not happen again...how dreadful!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was surely rudeness on both sides of the coin though - I believe that this is down to individuals though and certainly not the differing cultures as a whole.  I hope the culture clash has not left bad impressions on people.
There were good points and bad points of the day, and I can only hope that the organisers at ExCel take the copious amounts of feedback they will have received by now in order to improve the events in future!
I also pray that the stabbing scenario will not happen again&#8230;how dreadful!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be interested in the comments left in this thread:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcmexpogroup.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=195&amp;t=9677&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mcmexpogroup.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=195&amp;t=9677&lt;/a&gt;

It sounds like the conference was a disaster for global peace and unity.  Many of the kids attending the parallel MCM Expo are at a very impressionable age.  The harassment and general rudeness exhibited  by many Peace and Unity attendees can only have damaged the image of muslims in the eyes of the kids attending the MCM Expo.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be interested in the comments left in this thread:
<a href="http://www.mcmexpogroup.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=195&#038;t=9677">http://www.mcmexpogroup.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=195&#038;t=9677</a></p>

<p>It sounds like the conference was a disaster for global peace and unity.  Many of the kids attending the parallel MCM Expo are at a very impressionable age.  The harassment and general rudeness exhibited  by many Peace and Unity attendees can only have damaged the image of muslims in the eyes of the kids attending the MCM Expo.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended another event in the excel centre on the sunday and was stopped and had my bags searched , and I am white , so also did 5 of my friends who I was there with.

I&#039;m not religous nor do I believe in racism. Everyone has their own beliefs and should respect another person&#039;s culture. But I just wanted to respectfully mention that bag searches were not just confined to the colour of a person&#039;s skin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended another event in the excel centre on the sunday and was stopped and had my bags searched , and I am white , so also did 5 of my friends who I was there with.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not religous nor do I believe in racism. Everyone has their own beliefs and should respect another person&#8217;s culture. But I just wanted to respectfully mention that bag searches were not just confined to the colour of a person&#8217;s skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum,

Thanks for the comment sister Heather.  I avoided the nasheed artists generally, as I almost always find them painful to listen to.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum,</p>

<p>Thanks for the comment sister Heather.  I avoided the nasheed artists generally, as I almost always find them painful to listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu alaikum. My heart goes out to the organisers of the GPU, who have the difficult task of trying to please all the Muslims and appeal to the non-Muslims. May Allah reward them for their courage and hard work! Here in Germany, we hardly have any Muslim events - our children are still laughing about the comments one of the ‘Allah Made Me Funny’ brothers made about the lack of Eid celebrations for kids (“Get in the car! Stop Crying!”). So I’ll start with a huge pat on the back and a masha’Allah for getting the GPU off the ground. I’ve decided to voice a few criticisms, in the hope that it may be useful for future GPUs (like your post) insha’Allah.

I can only comment from the perspective of a TV viewer. I’d assumed from the delay in the TV coverage of the main stage that something had gone wrong with the timing. Not knowing what was happening was frustrating because our kids didn’t want to go to bed until Native Deen and Zain Bhikha had been on.

When it comes to the speakers and performers, I’d prefer the organisers to give precedence to quality over quantity. I understand that for some of the younger people, the chance to see so many nasheed artists is the main motivation for attending the event. However - and I pray Allah forgives me if I’m being too harsh - some of the nasheed artists, especially on the second stage, were painful to listen to. I think it would be better to let the ones who can sing in tune, have a longer slot. I’m on the fence when it comes to the issue of music, but we know that it alienates a lot of the brothers and sisters, so why do this for the sake of including some very superfluous bursts of music?

It’s a similar thing with the speakers. It’s a real shame Sheikh Haytham wasn’t given longer to speak about Islamic finance, especially as it’s so topical. On Sunday I’d been looking forward to listening to more of the scholars speak, but again we had the delay in broadcasting. We gave up on the GPU at some point late in the early evening when they started broadcasting the artists on the second stage performing the same nasheeds they’d performed on Saturday. It’s not clear from the Islam Channel website if and when it will be possible to catch up on the things we missed.

I hope that the organisers of the GPU aren’t too disheartened by negative feedback (including my own), because these events take years of hard work and critical evaluation to get right.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu alaikum. My heart goes out to the organisers of the GPU, who have the difficult task of trying to please all the Muslims and appeal to the non-Muslims. May Allah reward them for their courage and hard work! Here in Germany, we hardly have any Muslim events - our children are still laughing about the comments one of the ‘Allah Made Me Funny’ brothers made about the lack of Eid celebrations for kids (“Get in the car! Stop Crying!”). So I’ll start with a huge pat on the back and a masha’Allah for getting the GPU off the ground. I’ve decided to voice a few criticisms, in the hope that it may be useful for future GPUs (like your post) insha’Allah.</p>

<p>I can only comment from the perspective of a TV viewer. I’d assumed from the delay in the TV coverage of the main stage that something had gone wrong with the timing. Not knowing what was happening was frustrating because our kids didn’t want to go to bed until Native Deen and Zain Bhikha had been on.</p>

<p>When it comes to the speakers and performers, I’d prefer the organisers to give precedence to quality over quantity. I understand that for some of the younger people, the chance to see so many nasheed artists is the main motivation for attending the event. However - and I pray Allah forgives me if I’m being too harsh - some of the nasheed artists, especially on the second stage, were painful to listen to. I think it would be better to let the ones who can sing in tune, have a longer slot. I’m on the fence when it comes to the issue of music, but we know that it alienates a lot of the brothers and sisters, so why do this for the sake of including some very superfluous bursts of music?</p>

<p>It’s a similar thing with the speakers. It’s a real shame Sheikh Haytham wasn’t given longer to speak about Islamic finance, especially as it’s so topical. On Sunday I’d been looking forward to listening to more of the scholars speak, but again we had the delay in broadcasting. We gave up on the GPU at some point late in the early evening when they started broadcasting the artists on the second stage performing the same nasheeds they’d performed on Saturday. It’s not clear from the Islam Channel website if and when it will be possible to catch up on the things we missed.</p>

<p>I hope that the organisers of the GPU aren’t too disheartened by negative feedback (including my own), because these events take years of hard work and critical evaluation to get right.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sister in Question</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sister in Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;especially when the sister who gave me a free ticket is probably reading this&quot;

Haha...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;especially when the sister who gave me a free ticket is probably reading this&#8221;</p>

<p>Haha&#8230;</p>
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