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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/12/03/who_doesnt_deserve_a_funeral#comment-8845</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Catholic church acts as an agency of grace, and never refuses to bury anyone&quot;
...If they accept them as Roman Catholics which leaves them in exactly the same situation as muxlims here. What of the people burned to death for hersy on the instructions of the Roman Catholic church? Suicides have to be considered &quot;of unsound mind&quot; to benefit from that doctrine.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Catholic church acts as an agency of grace, and never refuses to bury anyone&#8221;
&#8230;If they accept them as Roman Catholics which leaves them in exactly the same situation as muxlims here. What of the people burned to death for hersy on the instructions of the Roman Catholic church? Suicides have to be considered &#8220;of unsound mind&#8221; to benefit from that doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Sheard</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/12/03/who_doesnt_deserve_a_funeral#comment-8844</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Sheard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic church acts as an agency of grace, and never refuses to bury anyone. We never judge the dead. We leave that to God. Maybe you should learn from our example.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic church acts as an agency of grace, and never refuses to bury anyone. We never judge the dead. We leave that to God. Maybe you should learn from our example.</p>
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		<title>By: Brieta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brieta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam Alaykum -

Just for the sake of accuracy, the man in Philadelphia was killed after he robbed a bank and killed a police officer.  He and his cross dressing Muslim cohorts were career criminals with drug issues who were in and out of jail.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam Alaykum -</p>

<p>Just for the sake of accuracy, the man in Philadelphia was killed after he robbed a bank and killed a police officer.  He and his cross dressing Muslim cohorts were career criminals with drug issues who were in and out of jail.</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason for not giving them a Muslim burial is the widespread belief amongst Muslim and now Hindus as well that the Mumbai attacks were a false flag operation(not the first on Indian soil for those who know their history). Keep in mind the Pakistan connection comes from a &quot;surviving&quot; terrorist who has said pretty much whatever the Indian authorities wanted out of him. There are those who use this attack for political import but there&#039;s plenty of people demanding answers.
Indians are not as gullible as Yanks and Brits.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason for not giving them a Muslim burial is the widespread belief amongst Muslim and now Hindus as well that the Mumbai attacks were a false flag operation(not the first on Indian soil for those who know their history). Keep in mind the Pakistan connection comes from a &#8220;surviving&#8221; terrorist who has said pretty much whatever the Indian authorities wanted out of him. There are those who use this attack for political import but there&#8217;s plenty of people demanding answers.
Indians are not as gullible as Yanks and Brits.</p>
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		<title>By: SimonT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimonT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The theology is quite beside the point here and is rather typical of your locked-in self-referential thinking about this outrage.

Firstly, it goes beyond &quot;politics&quot; into the realm of public safety. I spent a few months in India atround a year after the Ayodha massacres and a few months after the Bombay riots. The atmosphere of fear was palpable in Muslim quarters during the Hindu Durga festival in October 1993 in Varanasi.

A large funeral, any funeral, in India for these murderers would be a red rag to the saffron bull.

It&#039;s to the credit of the Indian people that there have been no large-scale disturbances since the assaullt on Mumbai - perhaps because the murder and mayhem were so indiscrimiate and so nakedly designed to set off a holocaust that a petty communal response seems futile. Let&#039;s hope it stays that way. I would advocate a little compassion for the further intended victims of this outrage - innocent poeple of a variety of faiths simply trying to survive in one this earth&#039;s hardest urban environments. Your musings on who is a muslim and what their rights might be are facile.

Many Indian Muslims, I would imagine, if looking at the corpse of one of these terrorists would be thinking &quot;You wanted my death in some riot. Your remains can go back to Pakistan, or anywhere. Let God sort you out&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The theology is quite beside the point here and is rather typical of your locked-in self-referential thinking about this outrage.</p>

<p>Firstly, it goes beyond &#8220;politics&#8221; into the realm of public safety. I spent a few months in India atround a year after the Ayodha massacres and a few months after the Bombay riots. The atmosphere of fear was palpable in Muslim quarters during the Hindu Durga festival in October 1993 in Varanasi.</p>

<p>A large funeral, any funeral, in India for these murderers would be a red rag to the saffron bull.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s to the credit of the Indian people that there have been no large-scale disturbances since the assaullt on Mumbai - perhaps because the murder and mayhem were so indiscrimiate and so nakedly designed to set off a holocaust that a petty communal response seems futile. Let&#8217;s hope it stays that way. I would advocate a little compassion for the further intended victims of this outrage - innocent poeple of a variety of faiths simply trying to survive in one this earth&#8217;s hardest urban environments. Your musings on who is a muslim and what their rights might be are facile.</p>

<p>Many Indian Muslims, I would imagine, if looking at the corpse of one of these terrorists would be thinking &#8220;You wanted my death in some riot. Your remains can go back to Pakistan, or anywhere. Let God sort you out&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yunus Yakoub Islam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yunus Yakoub Islam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am aware of Imams also refusing to conduct Muslim burial services for people who died of AIDS, citing similar arguments.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware of Imams also refusing to conduct Muslim burial services for people who died of AIDS, citing similar arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For political reasons, there is no way any Indian Muslim can support their burial in India. If the attackers are indeed Pakistani, send the bodies back to Pakistan for burial.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For political reasons, there is no way any Indian Muslim can support their burial in India. If the attackers are indeed Pakistani, send the bodies back to Pakistan for burial.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/12/03/who_doesnt_deserve_a_funeral#comment-8838</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oopsadaisy! should read:
However, if someone claims that what muslims would think a serious sin is actually justified by islam, are they still a muslim? There was a thread suggesting that someone who favoured gay marriage may have ceased to be a muslim; wouldn&#039;t the same be true of someone who opens fire indiscriminately in a raklway station?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oopsadaisy! should read:
However, if someone claims that what muslims would think a serious sin is actually justified by islam, are they still a muslim? There was a thread suggesting that someone who favoured gay marriage may have ceased to be a muslim; wouldn&#8217;t the same be true of someone who opens fire indiscriminately in a raklway station?</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2008/12/03/who_doesnt_deserve_a_funeral#comment-8837</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, if someone claims  that what muslims would think a serious sin is actually justified by islam, are they still a muslim? There was a thread suggesting that someone who favoured muslim marriage may have ceased to be a muslim; wouldn&#039;t the same be true of someone who opens fire indiscriminately in a raklway station?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, if someone claims  that what muslims would think a serious sin is actually justified by islam, are they still a muslim? There was a thread suggesting that someone who favoured muslim marriage may have ceased to be a muslim; wouldn&#8217;t the same be true of someone who opens fire indiscriminately in a raklway station?</p>
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