Who are you calling work-shy?

Now that the boom years are over and thousands of people are losing their jobs, the government announces more restrictions on people claiming unemployment benefits, with accompanying cheerleading in the popular press which print stories crowing about the screw being tightened on the “work-shy”. At least John Major waited until the recession of the early 1990s was over before introducing the “Jobseeker’s Allowance”, a time-limited unemployment benefit, justified by media stories about people living high on the hog for indefinite periods on the old Dole. The other day, while shopping in Kingston, I noticed such a story on the front page of the Evening Standard (notorious for egging on Thatcher back in the 1980s), alleging that the “workshy” face compulsory interviews and possible “workfare” type schemes. I’ve also heard that people will not be able to “use the recession as an excuse”.

At a time when tens of thousands of people are likely to lose their jobs as a result of the Woolworth’s bankruptcy, this looks like something of a sick joke. It is not the fault of ordinary workers that bankers lent money to people who could not pay it back; it is neither their fault that Woolworths stagnated rather than moving with the times over the past twenty years. It would not be the fault of Vauxhall or Ford car plant workers if the companies’ troubles in the USA cause problems here. All these things are the fault of people higher up the chain of command, and if it leads to job losses, then how can the redundant workers be called work-shy when they had been in work for years?

I don’t dispute that there are some people who would rather not work, but that does not change the fact that there are plenty of people who want to work but cannot, for one reason or another: because of a disability, or because of a simple shortage of work, or suitable work. It is a well-known fact that a significant proportion of disabled people are unable to find work, because of a mixture of unsuitable buildings and discrimination. Listening to a BBC radio programme, You and Yours, which had a feature on this subject, I heard a man report that an interviewer’s expression changed markedly when he put on his glasses, which were obviously to correct a severe sight defect (i.e. they were big); a woman reported that her company refused to allow her to park on site as the parking spaces were an executive perk. Really, why should a skilled person be expected to do menial work to save others the bother of making trivial adjustments to their working practices?

Forcing single parents off benefit sounds like a good vote-winning idea, but there are only so many jobs which would allow single mothers to be off work in time to pick up their children from work, and they are likely to be part-time jobs which don’t pay much. Surely many of them could do with the money, but they could also do with time to do household chores which are difficult to do with a young child running around, to cook healthy and nourishing meals for their children (if the Jamie Oliver revolution hasn’t reached their school yet), to help them with homework and so on. No doubt some would find family to mind their children for them, but for those without family able or willing to do so, it’s childcare or bust, and if the childcare doesn’t have a good reputation, who can blame the parent from wanting to look after the children him- or herself? Besides, the childcare has to be paid for somehow, particularly if the parent doesn’t land a well-paid job, and I hope someone has done the sums on whether paying for it is more or less expensive than the current arrangement.

The other night, some woman was on the Jumoke Fashola late-night phone-in, boasting that she had had a child at 15 and brought her up, working almost from the start and now making £50,000 a year. Now, I’ve heard people call London talk shows and aggressively spout anti-immigrant views, making me wonder if they were not planted far-right activists, but they were not talking about benefits to single mothers. This woman may have been telling the truth, but she represents the tendency of people who have achieved against the odds to look down on those who have not. Most single mothers do not make that amount of money a year (even divorced middle-class mothers, let alone those who got pregnant at 15). Like the rich who cut their children out of their wills to force them to work for their riches as they had done, she attributed her success to herself, and forget that they were lucky. Many people work all their lives, and die poor.

The woman insisted that her family all worked, and found it shameful to claim benefits, and asked who would teach her children a “work ethic” if they saw her sitting round claiming benefits. Perhaps she had family to look after her children, but never mind a work ethic, one wonders who might be teaching her children any kind of ethics if they spend most of their time around other juveniles with the supervision of one adult over several children. If a child finds it difficult to cope with the company of other children, or a particular group of them, that would also make childcare a less viable option.

Another part of the new proposals is a “work for your benefits” scheme, which sounds a lot like the American “workfare” system. Ostensibly, it results in a six-month work-experience placement to “build up work-related skills”, but if the work is of a menial nature, or consists of shelf-stacking or basic in-store customer service, it begins to look like a welfare hand-out to a large corporation, who get six months of cheap labour. If the work is public service, this should be done by an actual paid worker, not an unpaid benefit claimant; just as unemployment benefits may be an incentive not to work, free labour is an incentive not to provide proper jobs (and even to get rid of existing ones). We should not get to the point of thinking that someone seen sweeping the streets or erasing graffiti on a wall is either a criminal on “community payback” or on the dole; they could be doing it voluntarily. Besides, such a scheme could easily result in someone unable to find work because of discrimination having to clear up after the very people who refuse to hire him or her out of prejudice. That just is not fair.

The whole situation is very typical of New Labour Britain. The squeeze on benefits, accompanied by headlines attacking the “work-shy” without acknowledging the genuine unemployed, at a time of rising unemployment comes from the same place as this government’s stance on immigration and “foreign criminals”: sticking the boot into the powerless, pretending to be tougher than the Tories while cowering to their media barons. The reality is that Jobseekers’ Allowance claimants already have to demonstrate that they are looking for work and that they lose their benefits if they refuse work, so anyone who has been on it recently will have been surprised at all the stories about compulsory interviews. What is on the table is humiliation for ordinary people who have fallen on hard times, accompanied with free handouts for large corporations. How New Labour.

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  • M Risbrook

    The welfare reforms have seriously worried home educating parents that they will have no choice but to get a job and send their children to school if their JSA is terminated. Home education isn’t purely a lifestyle choice. Sometimes parents have had to give up their jobs to home educate their children because of problems like bullying at school or failure to meet special educational needs. To make matters worse, it will end up costing the taxpayer more to educate the child at school rather than pay the home educating parents benefits. State education is not free. It costs the taxpayer about £5,000 per child per year.

  • Old Pickler

    You write as if the work-shy don’t exist. Of course they do. There are loads of people claiming disability allowance who are as fit as a fiddle, or suffering from spurious “depression” or “stress”. Scroungers, the lot of them.

    If East European immigrants can do the jobs, the jobs are there to be done. And why should hard-working taxpayers support people who don’t want to get off their backside?

  • George Carty

    Just because work-shy people do exist doesn’t mean that they are a majority (or even a significant minority) of the unemployed are such.

    Many people who are unemployed are such because they are unwilling or unable to move to where the jobs are. Immigrants, by contrast, are mobile by definition.

    Another thought — why should an employer spend time and money to train a school-leaver to do the job, when they can hire an immigrant who already has years of experience?

  • M Risbrook

    I have been reliably informed that few Job Centre and DWP staff will differentiate between lazy dole scroungers and hard working home educating parents. If you don’t already know - and I do know - home educating your children is very hard and very stressful round the clock work.

    Work should not be a synonym for paid employment.

    I’m also concerned that forcing benefits claimants to take paid employment will mean valuable contributions to society through voluntary work will be lost. This is something that the government appears to have overlooked.

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    I’m sorry M Risbrook, but the welfare state was set up to provide a temporary safety net for those who found themselves in reduced circumstances through no fault of their own (workers made redundant, those genuinely unable to work due to disability), not for those who would rather do something else other then work.

  • M Risbrook

    Safiya Outlines

    Did you read my statement that work should not be a synonym for paid employment? Are you aware of how much effort is required to effectively home educate children?

    Did you read my statement that parents have had to give up their jobs to home educate their children because of problems like bullying at school or failure to meet special educational needs? Is the welfare state unable to provide a temporary safety net for these people or must they suffer at school at the hands of bullies and unsupportive staff whilst their parents go out and ‘earn a living’?

    Answers please.

  • Old Pickler

    Just because work-shy people do exist doesn’t mean that they are a majority (or even a significant minority) of the unemployed are such.

    The majority on incapacity benefit are not disabled in any meaningful sense of the word.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    The majority on incapacity benefit are not disabled in any meaningful sense of the word.

    Have you done a survey on that, then?

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    M Risbrook - To pay for a parent to stay at home for the duration of a child’s compulsory education is hardly temporary is it? Again, my point still stands, that the welfare state was established as a short term fix, not a long term way of life.

  • Thersites

    “Just because work-shy people do exist doesn’t mean that they are a majority (or even a significant minority) of the unemployed are such.” However, long-term unemployment is much the most effective way to teach people to be work-shy and to cretae create work-shy people.

    ” the welfare state was established as a short term fix, not a long term way of life.” On the contrary: the Beveridge Plan which still underlies the British Welfare State was designed to care for the people “from the cradle to the grave”.

  • M Risbrook

    Safiya Outlines

    To pay for a parent to stay at home for the duration of a child’s compulsory education is hardly temporary is it?

    Of course it’s temporary. A child’s compulsory education ends as soon as they are 16. Income Support was established to enable a parent to be a full time carer for their children during the years of compulsory education which was why it ended when their youngest child reached 16.

    What I want to know is why would a Muslim parent want to send their children to a state school where they will mix with hostile unbelievers and receive anti-Islamic indoctrination as part of the National Curriculum?

    I know several Muslim parents who home educate their children. They are mostly white or Middle Eastern in origin but very few are south Asian. They feel that their children will not receive a decent Islamic education and embrace high moral standards if they attend a state school. They also question the quality and utility of the secular education of the National Curriculum and believe that the state school system cannot be reformed from within. Another feature of these parents is that they deplore Labour and socialist political ideology of chucking billions of pounds of public money at the decrepit state school system and state run childcare whilst refusing to support that basic bedrock of society - the family.

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    M Risbrook - Wanting to homeschool is one thing, expecting the state to pay you for it is another thing entirely. It seems very odd to complain about the wicked state being wasteful, but then expect that same state to support you for sixteen long years (more if you have several children).

    “What I want to know is why would a Muslim parent want to send their children to a state school where they will mix with hostile unbelievers and receive anti-Islamic indoctrination as part of the National Curriculum?”

    Possibly because living in a non-Muslim country means mixing with non-believers so it’s good to view it as a normal part of life. Also, aside from the many social benefits of mainstream schooling, the parents probably have to work to earn a living and are not happy to sit at home and have the government feed them. Those are also very important values to be raised with.

    Thersites - You are being very disingenuous. The ‘Cradle to Grave’ idea, was that there would be help for people AVAILABLE from birth until death, not that they would use these services for their entire lives. No one foresaw a future where people would actually choose not to work and take government handouts instead.

  • M Risbrook

    Safiya Outlines

    “and are not happy to sit at home and have the government feed them. Those are also very important values to be raised with.”

    There is also the controversy of whether it is acceptable for the government to spend billions of pounds of taxpayer’s money on grandiose projects - the state school system being just one of them - whilst providing little support for that basic bedrock of society called the family. A parents who sends their children to school and pays less than £5,000 per year in taxes (multiplied by the number of children) is actually a drain to the economy.

    What does Islam think of this?

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    Again, I’m not sure how accepting state handouts is striking such a blow against the government.

    As for the idea that every child has access to education being a “grandiose project”, do you really suggest a return to the days when only the privileged were able to read and write?

    Also, we live in a democracy and the vast majority find people working for a living and the state educating their children far less controversial then sitting at home on the dole.

  • Thersites

    “The ‘Cradle to Grave’ idea, was that there would be help for people AVAILABLE from birth until death, not that they would use these services for their entire lives.” Really? Then why was the phrase “from the cradle to the grave” used? The Welfare State did not and does not consist solely of unemployment or incapaity benefit. They were only two of the services available from the cradle to the grave. Most other forms of help have been got rid of. “No one foresaw a future where people would actually choose not to work and take government handouts instead.” Actually, quite a lot of people did. It was one of the standard tropes of early science fiction and socialist theorists. They assumed that most people would recognise the dignity of labour and would work willingly when they needed to but that there would be a minority that did not work at all but were tolerated and pitied and that most people would do unquanitifiable but socially valuable work outside their official working time. This was also an assumption of the creators of the welfare state. It did not occur to its creators that deliberately induced unemployment and the problems it causes would ever be an acceptable solution to economic problems in the future or that what- inspired by Mary Kaldor- one might call baroque capitalism would emphasise the impiortance of purposeless consumption or the influence of the mass media on peoples’ attitudes or the availability and popularity of legal and illegal drugs and their effects on making unemployment tolerable.

  • thabet

    Of course New Labour will remain silent about the millions of pounds of tax lost in ‘avoidance’ schemes by the same media barons that feed the prejudices of the likes of Old Pickler (who presents zero reliable statistics for her assertions).

    Or all that money paid to the arms trade.

    Or wealthy landowners.

    And so on.

  • Heather

    It sounds like the UK is heading towards what we’ve already got in Germany. A few years ago the government had the idea of creating so called “1 Euro jobs” to get people on benefit back to work. That’s 1 Euro per hour. What incentive is there for employers to pay a sensible wage when they can have slave labour? Friends returning to work after unemployment or maternity leave, tell me that salaries are now lower than they were 10 years ago. I don’t have statistics to back this up but I’ve seen plenty of job ads that support this claim.

    Wage dumping has lead to an increasing number of fathers who are in full-time employment but need to receive income support. The benefit office puts pressure on mothers (married and single) to go back to work as soon as the youngest child is in school or even kindergarten. This is very problematic in Germany because all junior schools and most secondary schools finish at lunchtime. However, the benefit office would prefer children to be cared for in the afternoons and the school holidays by the state rather than by their low earning parents. And what an effective way this is of ensuring that Muslim parents, who tend to be in the lower income bracket, don’t have time to teach their children Islamic values! I’m all in favour of being stricter with the work shy, but I think the government should do something about the problem of low wages before they start forcing mums to go back to work.

    Sister Safiya, I used to teach in a state school and I can definitely understand why some parents, especially Muslim parents, would want to home-school their kids. Home-schooling isn’t allowed here and I think there are only two Islamic junior schools in the whole country, so my own kids are in state school. The 12 year old is the only practicing Muslim in his class and he gets nothing but ridicule from his classmates when he opts out of the haram aspects of the curriculum (e.g. dancing the rumba and looking at pornographic teaching material). I applaud parents who take on the job of home schooling. I don’t think this option should be available only to the rich.

  • George Carty

    How can you force employers to pay decent wages though, when they have alternatives such as relocating to China or India, or using illegal immigrant workers paid less than the minimum wage?

  • M Risbrook

    Also, we live in a democracy and the vast majority find people working for a living and the state educating their children far less controversial then sitting at home on the dole.

    Safiya Outlines

    Obviously your state school derived education failed to teach you the meaning of the word democracy. I will give you the honours of finding out what it means, but you will find it has nothing to do with working for a living and the state educating children.

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    M Risbrook - Sneer all you want, but you have not given me one single reason why you are so special that you should be exempted from working for a living and actually providing for your family.

    This is the problem. Being self sufficient and not taking handouts used to be seen as an honourable thing, now it’s some kind of optional extra for those who are not imaginative enough to work the system.

    Sister Heather - I have no problem with parents wishing to home school, most homeschooling parents I know do not require state benefits to do so, they just work hard and live according to their means.

  • M Risbrook

    Safiya Outlines

    The only reason I am discussing the issue with you is because you are a Muslim and I am interested in views of the welfare reforms from an Islamic perspective.

    If you were a non-Muslim socialist then I wouldn’t waste my time discussing the issue with you. This is because socialism is all about politics and nothing about economics or ethics.

    Heather has covered some of the ethics and several Muslim parents who home educate their children can back her up. I have covered some of the economics.

  • Old Pickler

    The 12 year old is the only practicing Muslim in his class and he gets nothing but ridicule from his classmates when he opts out of the haram aspects of the curriculum (e.g. dancing the rumba and looking at pornographic teaching material). I applaud parents who take on the job of home schooling. I don’t think this option should be available only to the rich.

    Why should non-Muslims, the vast majority of Britons, pay taxes to support Muslims to teach their children that British society is evil?

  • Heather

    “How can you force employers to pay decent wages though, when they have alternatives such as relocating to China or India, or using illegal immigrant workers paid less than the minimum wage?”

    Good question, George. I guess, by convincing governments that stricter regulation is a vote winner. I’m not sure if it is a vote winner though; perhaps too many people are doing very nicely thank you in spite of, or even as a result of the scenario you’ve described. Nevertheless the disparity between wages and housing costs in the West is at the heart of the credit crunch. Governments may end up wishing they’d done more to prevent wage dumping because what goes around comes around.

    “Why should non-Muslims, the vast majority of Britons, pay taxes to support Muslims to teach their children that British society is evil?”

    That’s the trouble with taxes. We regularly find ourselves paying for things we don’t approve of. Although I don’t home-school, I still find time to teach my children that some aspects of European society are harmful and should be avoided – and it doesn’t cost taxpayers a penny.

    I think some of you are concerned about the State paying people to home-school their kids and I can understand that up to a point. What you have to remember is that the school system is failing some children, be it due to bullying, low educational standards, lack of parental choice, etc. A lot depends on where you live, which brings us back to the housing issue. And of course, it isn’t just Muslim parents who prefer to home-school.

    My own view is that suitably qualified, home-schooling parents are providing a service to society and money should be made available to support them, if they’re not wealthy enough to be self-sufficient. Don’t forget that when the education system fails a child, there is also a financial cost to society. Here in Germany a shocking number of primary school kids are receiving some sort of educational therapy (mainly speech therapy, ergo therapy and behavioural therapy) all at the taxpayers expense. I’m really sorry not to back that up with statistics, but I haven’t got time to search. I just wanted to answer, to the best of my limited ability, the questions that arose as a result of my original comments.

  • Soumaya

    sister Safiya, can you clarify whether you believe only those parents wealthy enough not to have to take ‘handouts’ from the state should home educate? That is what your posts seem to indicate. I withdrew my son from school in order to home educate him. It wasn’t a particularly bad school (bad enough, but not notorious or anything) and some children thrived there, but my son was puzzlingly unable to cope (he wasn’t diagnosed with Aspergers till he was 8 so we didn’t know why). After a year and a half of school he changed from being a very bright and happy child with high self-esteem to one who was anxious and withdrawn and even depressed. To continue sending him to school and watch his mental health deteriorate so that I could work rather than take benefits would not have been the correct thing to do and I’m sorry if anyone believes that I am some kind of dishonourable parasite for putting my son first.

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    Sister Soumayya - Actually the ability to homeschool, even while on benefits, is also one of privilege. If you have a large mortgage/rent, or a large family, stopping work to homeschool, would not be an option.

    I stand by my point that unemployment benefit is meant for those unable to work. The current system (particularly incapacity benefit) is being abused to the point of collapse. More problems arise when there are generations now who have not worked and never will. On an individual basis when someone chooses not to work, there is little impact, but on a societal level, it is catastrophic.

    As for your situation, isn’t the real issue that the school was failing your son. Considering what a widespread problem Asperger’s and the autism spectrum, the education system as a duty towards these children. Especially as most studies concerning children with disabilities indicate, that the more mainstream exposure these children have, the better they do as adults. So just stating that parents with special needs children should homeschool their children, doesn’t solve the problem either.

  • M Risbrook

    I stand by my point that unemployment benefit is meant for those unable to work. The current system (particularly incapacity benefit) is being abused to the point of collapse. More problems arise when there are generations now who have not worked and never will. On an individual basis when someone chooses not to work, there is little impact, but on a societal level, it is catastrophic.

    Sounds more like the words of a Presbyterian than a Muslim.

    Especially as most studies concerning children with disabilities indicate, that the more mainstream exposure these children have, the better they do as adults.

    What studies exactly? Can you provide some good quality references to back up your statement with?

    So just stating that parents with special needs children should homeschool their children, doesn’t solve the problem either.

    Do you personally know any parents with children with SEN who have spent years fighting futile battles against the school system to ensure that their child’s needs are met? I certainly do. An increasing number of parents are concluding that the state school system cannot be reformed from within to meet their child’s needs - and certainly not within the time frame whilst their child is at school - so are taking responsibility for their child’s education themselves.

  • http://getoutlines.wordpress.com Safiya Outlines

    Salaam Alaikum,

    “Sounds more like the words of a Presbyterian than a Muslim.”

    So you’re unfamiliar with the hadith that the hand that gives is better then the hand that receives? Also, I’ve managed to avoid casting aspersions on anyone’s deen until this point, I would be grateful if you could do the same.

    As for studies, it is historical fact that people with disabilities were frequently institutionalised and denied any access to an education at all, as it was deemed a waste of time. Parents battling to include their child into the mainstream system, helped to change these attitudes. The fact that dyslexia and dyscalculia are now recognised medical conditions, whereas before they viewed as stupidity or laziness, s is evidence of this.

    Since you wanted a study, here is a brief overview of research into the effect mainstream education has had on children with Down’s Syndrome: http://www.downs-syndrome.org.uk/news-and-media/press-releases/2008/487-births-increase.html

    I’m sorry, but you really aren’t going to change my mind about this.

  • M Risbrook

    So you’re unfamiliar with the hadith that the hand that gives is better then the hand that receives?

    I’m no expert on the hadith but this statement certainly should not be interpreted as it is of utmost importance to spend one’s life working for money. What about giving back to society in the form of useful and productive voluntary work or caring for a family? Should these be considered a lower priority than working for money?

    As for studies, it is historical fact that people with disabilities were frequently institutionalised and denied any access to an education at all, as it was deemed a waste of time. Parents battling to include their child into the mainstream system, helped to change these attitudes.

    This is indeed true but one has to take into account that parents were often mislead by the state into putting their children with disabilities into institutions where they received a poor quality education because at the time they were unaware that home education was legal. Even 15 years ago very few people in Britain knew that home education was legal. If parents had known that home education was legal then many of them would almost certainly have refused the recommendations of the state into putting their disabled children into institutions and educated them at home to the best of their ability.

    Since you wanted a study, here is a brief overview of research into the effect mainstream education has had on children with Down’s Syndrome:

    A one sentence statement of “Now there is much greater inclusion and acceptance, with mainstream education having a huge role.”

    Try harder next time. I want more information than this.

  • http://a4ephotogallery.blogspot.com/ Tipster

    In relation to the “work for your benefits”. As someone who was on the New Deal program for 13-weeks in 2008 and, like most of the other claimants I knew, found the whole experience a complete waste of time. At the end of the 13 weeks I emergerd even more depressed and more cynical than when I started the course - only to sign-on again. In fact there was a 62-year old man in my class who was one year off getting a company pension! Why on earth did the jobcentre refer him to the New Deal program in the first place. I don’t think many taxpayers fully realise just how many millions £ of public money is being wasted on the New Deal, which is to be replaced by the Flexible New Deal (FND) in October which will last for a year, the final goal of Labour’s Anglo-Saxon economic model.