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	<title>Comments on: Review of &#8220;Muslim First, British Second&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9149</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are plenty of Catholic unionists and a smaller number of Protestant republicans in Northern Ireland.&quot;
Certainly, though exact numbers and percentages are unknown; all the same, if someone&#039;s a prod the odds are they&#039;re unionist/loyalist; if they&#039;re papist nationalist/republican. Personal religio-national identification didn&#039;t stop members of both lots happily and loyally working for the British state in N.I. and Great Britain and elsewhere in civilian or military jobs
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are plenty of Catholic unionists and a smaller number of Protestant republicans in Northern Ireland.&#8221;
Certainly, though exact numbers and percentages are unknown; all the same, if someone&#8217;s a prod the odds are they&#8217;re unionist/loyalist; if they&#8217;re papist nationalist/republican. Personal religio-national identification didn&#8217;t stop members of both lots happily and loyally working for the British state in N.I. and Great Britain and elsewhere in civilian or military jobs</p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9148</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The territory is disputed because of different religions and national loyalties associated with those religions.&lt;/i&gt;

There are plenty of Catholic unionists and a smaller number of Protestant republicans in Northern Ireland. I have no idea if people of other religions strongly favour the unionist or republican cause, although I have a suspicion that most are unionist as they are more likely to have ties to the mainland than the Irish Republic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The territory is disputed because of different religions and national loyalties associated with those religions.</i></p>

<p>There are plenty of Catholic unionists and a smaller number of Protestant republicans in Northern Ireland. I have no idea if people of other religions strongly favour the unionist or republican cause, although I have a suspicion that most are unionist as they are more likely to have ties to the mainland than the Irish Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9147</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The territory is disputed because of different religions and national loyalties associated with those religions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The territory is disputed because of different religions and national loyalties associated with those religions.</p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9146</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Northern Ireland problem is actually disputed territory rather than religion, although religion is used as a convenient smokescreen by both sides to conceal the real issue.

It is &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; difficult to live in Northern Ireland if you follow a religion other than Protestant or Catholic Christianity. I have met former residents of Northern Ireland who follow Pagan or Odinic religions who have moved to the mainland because of this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Northern Ireland problem is actually disputed territory rather than religion, although religion is used as a convenient smokescreen by both sides to conceal the real issue.</p>

<p>It is <b>very</b> difficult to live in Northern Ireland if you follow a religion other than Protestant or Catholic Christianity. I have met former residents of Northern Ireland who follow Pagan or Odinic religions who have moved to the mainland because of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9145</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do Muslims in Northern Ireland overwhelmingly consider themselves British or Irish?&quot;

As in &quot;Are you a protestant muslim or a catholic muslim?&quot;?

There aren&#039;t many muslims in Northern Ireland. They were [still are, perhaps] having difficulty even getting a permanent mosque. The local council where they wanted to build a mosque was run by the D.U.P. and refused planning permission. In the course of a probably justified complaint about anti-muslim prejudice one of the mosque&#039;s supporters bitterly said that all christians always stuck together, which suggested remarkable ignorance of local history.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do Muslims in Northern Ireland overwhelmingly consider themselves British or Irish?&#8221;</p>

<p>As in &#8220;Are you a protestant muslim or a catholic muslim?&#8221;?</p>

<p>There aren&#8217;t many muslims in Northern Ireland. They were [still are, perhaps] having difficulty even getting a permanent mosque. The local council where they wanted to build a mosque was run by the D.U.P. and refused planning permission. In the course of a probably justified complaint about anti-muslim prejudice one of the mosque&#8217;s supporters bitterly said that all christians always stuck together, which suggested remarkable ignorance of local history.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about Northern Ireland, but young Muslims in Scotland that I have met consider themselves to be Scottish rather than British.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about Northern Ireland, but young Muslims in Scotland that I have met consider themselves to be Scottish rather than British.</p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9143</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Muslims in Northern Ireland overwhelmingly consider themselves British or Irish? What is the general Muslim opinion on Northern Ireland?
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9142</link>
		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Risbrook&quot; was looking at the issue from an interesting angle. To be honest, I had the same feeling when I kept seeing these obese, bearded, ungentlemanly men goading and threatening anybody whom they did not like.

We need to claim Islam from these urban savages lacking empathy and humanity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Risbrook&#8221; was looking at the issue from an interesting angle. To be honest, I had the same feeling when I kept seeing these obese, bearded, ungentlemanly men goading and threatening anybody whom they did not like.</p>

<p>We need to claim Islam from these urban savages lacking empathy and humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: M Risbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9141</link>
		<dc:creator>M Risbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be parallels between Islam in Britain today and Catholicism in Britain in the past.

There may also be parallels between the BNP and the defunct Liverpool Protestant Party which held grievances towards Catholics in the city, which actually started as grievances towards the Irish.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be parallels between Islam in Britain today and Catholicism in Britain in the past.</p>

<p>There may also be parallels between the BNP and the defunct Liverpool Protestant Party which held grievances towards Catholics in the city, which actually started as grievances towards the Irish.</p>
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		<title>By: AbdulHaq al-Ashanti</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/02/19/review_of_muslim_first_british_second#comment-9140</link>
		<dc:creator>AbdulHaq al-Ashanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments of &#039;M Risbrook&#039; are erroneous, and there is a strong hint of right-wing pomp and gobbledygook within Risbrook&#039;s comments and his references to &quot;ethnics&quot; (which is a term which can also be applied to whites in some other parts of the world too!).

It is well known, in 2009, that &#039;British&#039; does not merely apply to the &#039;white English&#039;, and considering the fact that many non-whites (and non-English) fought and died for Britian in two world wars it is rather temerarious for Risbrook to even insinuate that non-white Brits are in someway treacherous to their country. Furthermore, I am sure that it would not be far off if we were to mention a long list of white Brits who historically have also held &quot;grievances towards Britain&quot;. I would therefore advise Risbrook to conduct a comprehensive study of history and not to speak with neither fact nor evidences.

Britain is not infallible and there have been a whole host of instances in history which are far from praiseworthy to say the least (ranging from contorting religion to suit the desires of kings and queens; oppression of the Irish peoples; imperial and colonial rule and silence on the Palestinian issue). Mention of this does not equate with notions of a surreptitious plot to promote hatred of the British Isles, but rather as an honest indication that Britain&#039;s role in world affairs, as embodied in its current role as US puppy and poodle, has caused &#039;Brits&#039; of whatever origins a great deal of dismay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments of &#8216;M Risbrook&#8217; are erroneous, and there is a strong hint of right-wing pomp and gobbledygook within Risbrook&#8217;s comments and his references to &#8220;ethnics&#8221; (which is a term which can also be applied to whites in some other parts of the world too!).</p>

<p>It is well known, in 2009, that &#8216;British&#8217; does not merely apply to the &#8216;white English&#8217;, and considering the fact that many non-whites (and non-English) fought and died for Britian in two world wars it is rather temerarious for Risbrook to even insinuate that non-white Brits are in someway treacherous to their country. Furthermore, I am sure that it would not be far off if we were to mention a long list of white Brits who historically have also held &#8220;grievances towards Britain&#8221;. I would therefore advise Risbrook to conduct a comprehensive study of history and not to speak with neither fact nor evidences.</p>

<p>Britain is not infallible and there have been a whole host of instances in history which are far from praiseworthy to say the least (ranging from contorting religion to suit the desires of kings and queens; oppression of the Irish peoples; imperial and colonial rule and silence on the Palestinian issue). Mention of this does not equate with notions of a surreptitious plot to promote hatred of the British Isles, but rather as an honest indication that Britain&#8217;s role in world affairs, as embodied in its current role as US puppy and poodle, has caused &#8216;Brits&#8217; of whatever origins a great deal of dismay.</p>
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