Gary Younge has a fantastic piece in today’s Guardian which rips apart the government’s attitudes towards representatives of the Muslim community:

Somewhere out there is the Muslim that the British government seeks. Like all religious people he (the government is more likely to talk about Muslim women than to them) supports gay rights, racial equality, women’s rights, tolerance and parliamentary democracy. He abhors the murder of innocent civilians without qualification - unless they are in Palestine, Afghanistan or Iraq. He wants to be treated as a regular British citizen - but not by the police, immigration or airport security. He wants the best for his children and if that means unemployment, racism and bad schools, then so be it.

He raises his daughters to be assertive: they can wear whatever they want so long as it’s not a headscarf. He believes in free speech and the right to cause offence but understands that he has neither the right to be offended nor to speak out. Whatever an extremist is, on any given day, he is not it.

He regards himself as British - first, foremost and for ever. But whenever a bomb goes off he will happily answer for Islam. Even as he defends Britain’s right to bomb and invade he will explain that Islam is a peaceful religion. Always prepared to condemn other Muslims and supportive of the government, he has credibility in his community not because he represents its interests to the government, but because he represents the government’s interests to Muslims. He uses that credibility to preach restraint and good behaviour. Whatever a moderate is, on any given day, he is it.

I found this piece referenced from a comment on Harry’s Place, where the monkeys lightly dismissed it as “balls”, but I also get the Guardian every day, and this was the lead comment piece. His description of the ideal community representative is a bit of a caricature, but certain self-made “real moderates” and “community leaders” have become popular among both politicians and the media despite having been elected by nobody and having no credibility among Muslims, and they all display at least some of these characteristics.

Also flagged up on HP today was this in Standpoint, by Paul Goodman, the Tory MP for Wycombe in Buckinghamshire (which includes High Wycombe, pronounced like Wickham), who compares the peaceful “pir” culture which is dominant in his constituency with the nasty radicals coming in from outside:

My Muslim constituents come almost entirely from Kashmir and Pakistan. So do perhaps two in five of all Muslims in Britain. Their main Islamic tradition is Barelwi - a sufi movement within Sunni Islam. My constituents work, live, pray, gather to march in honour of their Prophet’s birthday, the mawlid - a custom viewed with horror as kufr, a “covering of the truth”, by some other Muslims - and meet to honour sufi saints such as Pir Shah Ghazi and to listen to the Saiful Malook, the great mystical poem of Mian Mohammed Baksh, “the Rumi of Kashmir”.

The overwhelming majority are far too busy earning a living and caring for their families to bother about a Sharia state. Their political views are emphatically moderate and community members serve on the local district council in growing numbers. Over eight years, I’ve developed a great respect and affection for Ahl as-Sunnat wa’al-Jama’at-the house of Sunni orthodoxy and consensus. But clouds are gathering. The Western powers and Pakistan built up Saudi-aligned groups to help topple the Soviets in Afghanistan. We live with the consequences today. I don’t know of a major terror plot in Britain whose trail hasn’t led back to Pakistan. The open wound of Kashmir is a source of pain and grievance. Extremists with slick websites, excellent English and a smattering of Arabic are targeting the children and grandchildren of the mainstream Muslim majority, who go to mosques where English may not be spoken at all.

Is that not the biggest problem with the “peaceful pirs”? The problem of mosques where English is not spoken is actually not confined to the Barelvi community, as there are plenty of Deobandi mosques where Urdu is the main language of instruction. However, we are now three generations into a British Muslim community, and a fair number of our youth no longer speak Urdu — to say nothing of those, Asian or otherwise, which come from families and regions, even in Pakistan, where Urdu was never spoken. When people who are interested in religion are confronted by imams who speak (or shout) in a language other than the one they speak, they are not going to hang round and learn a whole new language if they can find what they are looking for somewhere else.

Besides the lack of English, Barelvism has other unappealing aspects for many young people, among them the acrimonious sectarianism and “Wahhabi bashing”, mainly directed in fact at Deobandis. None of this has anything to do with any contemporary issue of security but with things that some early Deobandi scholars may have written around a century ago. I have not been to any of their mawlid gatherings recently, but when I did, there was usually at least one speech justifying the celebration that everybody was already there for. The milder forms of Islamism also look much more modern and are much more likely to feature prominent, and obviously religious, women (e.g. Salma Yaqoob, Yvonne Ridley) than the old-fashioned Barelvi (or even Deobandi) culture. They focus on uniting Muslims, while the culture of the elders often features divisive features such as biraderis, caste groupings imported from Pakistan.

So, much as some establishment figures may wish that the youth would just listen to their pirs and stop making trouble, it is not going to happen as long as a foreign language remains dominant, as long as some of them continue to try and incite Muslims to hate other Muslims, as long as their celebrations remain events of pointless self-justification, as long as they cosy up to the establishment and bad-mouth Muslims who don’t agree with them about theology as potential terrorists, and as long as there remain real political grievances that they fail to address. This is not to say that all Barelvi imams and pirs are guilty of this, but it exists and even some of the more reputable ones have been seen lending credibility to pro-establishment self-publicists like “Ed” Husain.

Oh, and Mr Goodman has his geography drastically wrong as well. He claims that “Mirpur is at the other end of Pakistan from the north-west province”, but in fact Mirpur is part of Azad Kashmir which actually shares a common border with the North-West Frontier Province, and it is the other side of Pakistan at the country’s narrowest point where Punjab, Kashmir and the NWFP meet (the major cities of northern Punjab, such as Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Sialkot, are in the same area). Muzaffarabad and Mirpur are about 200 miles each away from Peshawar (and to put that into perspective, all three cities are about 1,000 miles from Karachi, at the southern end of the country). The culture and language may be different, but it is very accessible to the extremists just up the new M1 motorway, particularly given their ability to attack government targets in Lahore and northern Punjab, and their presence in Kashmir. The Mirpuris of High Wycombe escaped before all the trouble started (i.e. before Kashmiri separatism became connected with the Afghan jihad); just because extremism is not a problem in Buckinghamshire does not mean that a region which is a stone’s throw from the Line of Control is unaffected now.

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5 Comments to “The government’s preferred Muslim spokesmen”

  1. Ali Abdullah says:

    Paul Goodman is yet another person in authority who thinks that Barelvi = Sufi, when this is not the case. I know plenty of Sufi-inclined brothers, from Morocco, Indonesia etc who are certainly not Barelvis. I also know Pakistani Sufis who are not Barelvis. Barelvism is peculiar to the Indian subcontinent and isn’t found anywhere else (apart from within the South Asian Muslim diaspora).

  2. Farzana says:

    Actually, there alot of confusion that surrounds the word ‘Barelvi’. It refers to people who follow Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (ra) who will generally be sufis. Either, Nuri or Barkati (the Sufi Tariqa associated with Ahmed Raza Khan). Or Razavi (those people who have been initiated into the Qadri Sufi Tariqa via the lineage of Ahmed Raza Khan). It is specific to the Indian Subcontinent, hence why you will not find Barelvis in Morrocco/ Indonesia. But there is no difference in the aqeedah of Barelvis and the Aqeedah of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama’at, it is one and the same thing. You can have a sufi muslim who is not a Barelvi. But in this article it is mainly the Indian Subcontinent community that is being spoken about, hence why it is being mentioned and relevant. One thing that I would query in this article is ‘Wahhabi bashing’. It was the Barelvi community that first came under attack from wahhbi factions claiming bid’ah and shirk at them. But they could do with giving this a rest now.

  3. Ismaeel says:

    Salaam,

    I find it interesting how people always fall for the “unity” talk when it comes from people from a Wahabbi background, despite the fact their ulema and activists are busy attacking tradtitional Sunni beliefs as kufr, bida and shirk.

    One good example is Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi who doesn’t waste a single sentence in any public talk or lecture attacking our aqidah and promoting his own. But because he is signed up to a so called “Sunni Unity Pledge” he is given an easy ride.

    Also your assessment is somewhat contradictory, how can Pirs who don’t speak english cosy up to a government they don’t share a language with? The reality is that “Braelwi” ulema have probably more internal diversity then any other group of ulema- certainly far more than Salafis and Deobandis. The situation in London distorts the picture somewhat but when we consider the size of the Walthamstow Eid Milad un Nabi Jaloos and the fact that there are several others in London and that the majority of masjids outside London are “Braelwi” we may wonder who the emphasis should be put upon to seek unity.

    wasalaam

  4. LeedsLad says:

    As I already can see from the comments here. I think Muslims are better of seeking excellence in finance, knowledge, education and everything of concern to them than quibbling over some backward toothless mortals who did nothing but teach ideas.

    While every other people progress, our youths are held back by such imports of savage mentality. Such people of such quality, will only reproduce more generations similar to the current ones who are nothing but slaves.

  5. gess says:

    As’salamu Aleikum,

    As far I can remember, the so called “Sunni Unity Pledge” has been a disaster for Qadi. He insists that no one should speak about Islam unless you are a scholar. Do I have to remind that all sitting dictators in Muslim world are there because of the blessing of scholars? It’s unbelievable the way he behaves, and I think it is time to remind him that he does not speak for all Muslims but for himself.

    I must admit, the more I read about Qadi, the more I despise that guy ( the day I lost any respect of him was how he treated the Muslim hijab http://tinyurl.com/c9v2oj . “Just a piece of cloth”?? Is that how he sees Muslim women?? He certainly reveals his view on women ) How many times have we seen and heard the sweat smooth talk of these men? They are dangerous people.

    This is not the time for the Muslim world to surrender our religious rights to men, but we should take it back in our hands which was righteous given by Allah(swt). Too long have they trampled down our rights, and we (I) blame ourselves (myself) that we gave them free ride. We must stop behaving like cult members and learn to think for ourselves. Yes, we need teachers to teach our Deen, but it would be a time where you need to stand for yourself. Similar to your kindergarten teacher — he or she will not become lifetime teacher. You have to remember that this teacher has some valuable tool you want to learn from - and that should be your only relationship and always remember you can reach the position and if not exceed the level of your teacher’s expertise.

    And let me give an example that scholars can bee very wrong http://www.sciencedaily.com/re.....200821.htm

    and you would do to them a great favour if you regard them as human beings - just like everyone else - and not someone who is ‘holly’ and untouchable — and that goes for everyone. No one is perfect.

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