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	<title>Comments on: The government&#8217;s preferred Muslim spokesmen</title>
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		<title>By: gess</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/03/30/the_governments_preferred_muslim_spokesmen#comment-9301</link>
		<dc:creator>gess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As&#039;salamu Aleikum,

As far I can remember, the so called &quot;Sunni Unity Pledge&quot; has been a disaster for Qadi. He insists that no one should speak about Islam unless you are a scholar. Do I have to remind that all sitting dictators in Muslim world are there because of the blessing of scholars? It&#039;s unbelievable the way he behaves, and I think it is time to remind him that he does not speak for all Muslims but for himself.


I must admit, the more I read about Qadi, the more I despise that guy ( the day I lost any respect of him was how he treated the Muslim hijab &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/c9v2oj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/c9v2oj&lt;/a&gt; . &quot;Just a piece of cloth&quot;?? Is that how he sees Muslim women?? He certainly reveals his view on women ) How many times have we seen and heard the sweat smooth talk of these men? They are dangerous people.

This is not the time for the Muslim world to surrender our religious rights to men, but we should take it back in our hands which was righteous given by Allah(swt). Too long have they trampled down our rights, and we (I) blame ourselves (myself) that we gave them free ride. We must stop behaving like cult members and learn to think for ourselves. Yes, we need teachers to teach our Deen, but it would be a time where you need to stand for yourself. Similar to your kindergarten teacher -- he or she will not become lifetime teacher. You have to remember that this teacher has some valuable tool you want to learn from - and that should be your only relationship and always remember you can reach the position and if not exceed the level of your teacher&#039;s expertise.

And let me give an example that scholars can bee very wrong
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090330200821.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090330200821.htm&lt;/a&gt;

and you would do to them a great favour if you regard them as human beings - just like everyone else - and not someone who is &#039;holly&#039; and untouchable -- and that goes for everyone. No one is perfect.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As&#8217;salamu Aleikum,</p>

<p>As far I can remember, the so called &#8220;Sunni Unity Pledge&#8221; has been a disaster for Qadi. He insists that no one should speak about Islam unless you are a scholar. Do I have to remind that all sitting dictators in Muslim world are there because of the blessing of scholars? It&#8217;s unbelievable the way he behaves, and I think it is time to remind him that he does not speak for all Muslims but for himself.</p>

<p>I must admit, the more I read about Qadi, the more I despise that guy ( the day I lost any respect of him was how he treated the Muslim hijab <a href="http://tinyurl.com/c9v2oj">http://tinyurl.com/c9v2oj</a> . &#8220;Just a piece of cloth&#8221;?? Is that how he sees Muslim women?? He certainly reveals his view on women ) How many times have we seen and heard the sweat smooth talk of these men? They are dangerous people.</p>

<p>This is not the time for the Muslim world to surrender our religious rights to men, but we should take it back in our hands which was righteous given by Allah(swt). Too long have they trampled down our rights, and we (I) blame ourselves (myself) that we gave them free ride. We must stop behaving like cult members and learn to think for ourselves. Yes, we need teachers to teach our Deen, but it would be a time where you need to stand for yourself. Similar to your kindergarten teacher &#8212; he or she will not become lifetime teacher. You have to remember that this teacher has some valuable tool you want to learn from - and that should be your only relationship and always remember you can reach the position and if not exceed the level of your teacher&#8217;s expertise.</p>

<p>And let me give an example that scholars can bee very wrong
<a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090330200821.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090330200821.htm</a></p>

<p>and you would do to them a great favour if you regard them as human beings - just like everyone else - and not someone who is &#8216;holly&#8217; and untouchable &#8212; and that goes for everyone. No one is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/03/30/the_governments_preferred_muslim_spokesmen#comment-9300</link>
		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I already can see from the comments here. I think Muslims are better of seeking excellence in finance, knowledge, education and everything of concern to them than quibbling over some backward toothless mortals who did nothing but teach ideas.

While every other people progress, our youths are held back by such imports of savage mentality. Such people of such quality, will only reproduce more generations similar to the current ones who are nothing but slaves.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I already can see from the comments here. I think Muslims are better of seeking excellence in finance, knowledge, education and everything of concern to them than quibbling over some backward toothless mortals who did nothing but teach ideas.</p>

<p>While every other people progress, our youths are held back by such imports of savage mentality. Such people of such quality, will only reproduce more generations similar to the current ones who are nothing but slaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismaeel</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/03/30/the_governments_preferred_muslim_spokesmen#comment-9299</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismaeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam,

I find it interesting how people always fall for the &quot;unity&quot; talk when it comes from people from a Wahabbi background, despite the fact their ulema and activists are busy attacking tradtitional Sunni beliefs as kufr, bida and shirk.

One good example is Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi who doesn&#039;t waste a single sentence in any public talk or lecture attacking our aqidah and promoting his own. But because he is signed up to a so called &quot;Sunni Unity Pledge&quot; he is given an easy ride.

Also your assessment is somewhat contradictory, how can Pirs who don&#039;t speak english cosy up to a government they don&#039;t share a language with? The reality is that &quot;Braelwi&quot; ulema have probably more internal diversity then any other group of ulema- certainly far more than Salafis and Deobandis. The situation in London distorts the picture somewhat but when we consider the size of the Walthamstow Eid Milad un Nabi Jaloos and the fact that there are several others in London and that the majority of masjids outside London are &quot;Braelwi&quot; we may wonder who the emphasis should be put upon to seek unity.

wasalaam
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam,</p>

<p>I find it interesting how people always fall for the &#8220;unity&#8221; talk when it comes from people from a Wahabbi background, despite the fact their ulema and activists are busy attacking tradtitional Sunni beliefs as kufr, bida and shirk.</p>

<p>One good example is Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi who doesn&#8217;t waste a single sentence in any public talk or lecture attacking our aqidah and promoting his own. But because he is signed up to a so called &#8220;Sunni Unity Pledge&#8221; he is given an easy ride.</p>

<p>Also your assessment is somewhat contradictory, how can Pirs who don&#8217;t speak english cosy up to a government they don&#8217;t share a language with? The reality is that &#8220;Braelwi&#8221; ulema have probably more internal diversity then any other group of ulema- certainly far more than Salafis and Deobandis. The situation in London distorts the picture somewhat but when we consider the size of the Walthamstow Eid Milad un Nabi Jaloos and the fact that there are several others in London and that the majority of masjids outside London are &#8220;Braelwi&#8221; we may wonder who the emphasis should be put upon to seek unity.</p>

<p>wasalaam</p>
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		<title>By: Farzana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farzana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there alot of confusion that surrounds the word &#039;Barelvi&#039;. It refers to people who follow Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (ra) who will generally be sufis. Either, Nuri or Barkati (the Sufi Tariqa associated with Ahmed Raza Khan). Or Razavi (those people who have been initiated into the Qadri Sufi Tariqa via the lineage of Ahmed Raza Khan). It is specific to the Indian Subcontinent, hence why you will not find Barelvis in Morrocco/ Indonesia. But there is no difference in the aqeedah of Barelvis and the Aqeedah of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama&#039;at, it is one and the same thing.
You can have a sufi muslim who is not a Barelvi. But in this article it is mainly the Indian Subcontinent community that is being spoken about, hence why it is being mentioned and relevant. One thing that I would query in this article is &#039;Wahhabi bashing&#039;. It was the Barelvi community that first came under attack from wahhbi factions claiming bid&#039;ah and shirk at them. But they could do with giving this a rest now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there alot of confusion that surrounds the word &#8216;Barelvi&#8217;. It refers to people who follow Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (ra) who will generally be sufis. Either, Nuri or Barkati (the Sufi Tariqa associated with Ahmed Raza Khan). Or Razavi (those people who have been initiated into the Qadri Sufi Tariqa via the lineage of Ahmed Raza Khan). It is specific to the Indian Subcontinent, hence why you will not find Barelvis in Morrocco/ Indonesia. But there is no difference in the aqeedah of Barelvis and the Aqeedah of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama&#8217;at, it is one and the same thing.
You can have a sufi muslim who is not a Barelvi. But in this article it is mainly the Indian Subcontinent community that is being spoken about, hence why it is being mentioned and relevant. One thing that I would query in this article is &#8216;Wahhabi bashing&#8217;. It was the Barelvi community that first came under attack from wahhbi factions claiming bid&#8217;ah and shirk at them. But they could do with giving this a rest now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Goodman is yet another person in authority who thinks that Barelvi = Sufi, when this is not the case. I know plenty of Sufi-inclined brothers, from Morocco, Indonesia etc who are certainly not Barelvis. I also know Pakistani Sufis who are not Barelvis. Barelvism is peculiar to the Indian subcontinent and isn&#039;t found anywhere else (apart from within the South Asian Muslim diaspora).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Goodman is yet another person in authority who thinks that Barelvi = Sufi, when this is not the case. I know plenty of Sufi-inclined brothers, from Morocco, Indonesia etc who are certainly not Barelvis. I also know Pakistani Sufis who are not Barelvis. Barelvism is peculiar to the Indian subcontinent and isn&#8217;t found anywhere else (apart from within the South Asian Muslim diaspora).</p>
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