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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9966</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East)&quot;


George, from his parents or his education, surnamed the Cappadocian, was born at Epiphania in Cilicia, in a fuller&#039;s shop. From this obscure and servile origin he raised himself by the talents of a parasite; and the patrons, whom he assiduously flattered, procured for their worthless dependent a lucrative commission, or contract, to supply the army with bacon. His employment was mean; he rendered it infamous. He accumulated wealth by the basest arts of fraud and corruption; but his malversations were so notorious, that George was compelled to escape from the pursuits of justice. After this disgrace, in which he appears to have saved his fortune at the expense of his honor, he embraced, with real or affected zeal, the profession of Arianism. From the love, or the ostentation, of learning, he collected a valuable library of history rhetoric, philosophy, and theology,  and the choice of the prevailing faction promoted George of Cappadocia to the throne of Athanasius. The entrance of the new archbishop was that of a Barbarian conqueror; and each moment of his reign was polluted by cruelty and avarice. The Catholics of Alexandria and Egypt were abandoned to a tyrant, qualified, by nature and education, to exercise the office of persecution; but he oppressed with an impartial hand the various inhabitants of his extensive diocese. The primate of Egypt assumed the pomp and insolence of his lofty station; but he still betrayed the vices of his base and servile extraction. The merchants of Alexandria were impoverished by the unjust, and almost universal, monopoly, which he acquired, of nitre, salt, paper, funerals, &amp;c.: and the spiritual father of a great people condescended to practise the vile and pernicious arts of an informer. The Alexandrians could never forget, nor forgive, the tax, which he suggested, on all the houses of the city; under an obsolete claim, that the royal founder had conveyed to his successors, the Ptolemies and the Caesars, the perpetual property of the soil. The Pagans, who had been flattered with the hopes of freedom and toleration, excited his devout avarice; and the rich temples of Alexandria were either pillaged or insulted by the haughty prince, who exclaimed, in a loud and threatening tone, &quot;How long will these sepulchres be permitted to stand?&quot; Under the reign of Constantius, he was expelled by the fury, or rather by the justice, of the people; and it was not without a violent struggle, that the civil and military powers of the state could restore his authority, and gratify his revenge. The messenger who proclaimed at Alexandria the accession of Julian, announced the downfall of the archbishop. George, with two of his obsequious ministers, Count Diodorus, and Dracontius, master of the mint were ignominiously dragged in chains to the public prison. At the end of twenty-four days, the prison was forced open by the rage of a superstitious multitude, impatient of the tedious forms of judicial proceedings. The enemies of gods and men expired under their cruel insults; the lifeless bodies of the archbishop and his associates were carried in triumph through the streets on the back of a camel;  and the inactivity of the Athanasian party  was esteemed a shining example of evangelical patience. The remains of these guilty wretches were thrown into the sea; and the popular leaders of the tumult declared their resolution to disappoint the devotion of the Christians, and to intercept the future honors of these martyrs, who had been punished, like their predecessors, by the enemies of their religion.  The fears of the Pagans were just, and their precautions ineffectual. The meritorious death of the archbishop obliterated the memory of his life. The rival of Athanasius was dear and sacred to the Arians, and the seeming conversion of those sectaries introduced his worship into the bosom of the Catholic church.   The odious stranger, disguising every circumstance of time and place, assumed the mask of a martyr, a saint, and a Christian hero;   and the infamous George of Cappadocia has been transformed   into the renowned St. George of England, the patron of arms, of chivalry, and of the garter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East)&#8221;</p>

<p>George, from his parents or his education, surnamed the Cappadocian, was born at Epiphania in Cilicia, in a fuller&#8217;s shop. From this obscure and servile origin he raised himself by the talents of a parasite; and the patrons, whom he assiduously flattered, procured for their worthless dependent a lucrative commission, or contract, to supply the army with bacon. His employment was mean; he rendered it infamous. He accumulated wealth by the basest arts of fraud and corruption; but his malversations were so notorious, that George was compelled to escape from the pursuits of justice. After this disgrace, in which he appears to have saved his fortune at the expense of his honor, he embraced, with real or affected zeal, the profession of Arianism. From the love, or the ostentation, of learning, he collected a valuable library of history rhetoric, philosophy, and theology,  and the choice of the prevailing faction promoted George of Cappadocia to the throne of Athanasius. The entrance of the new archbishop was that of a Barbarian conqueror; and each moment of his reign was polluted by cruelty and avarice. The Catholics of Alexandria and Egypt were abandoned to a tyrant, qualified, by nature and education, to exercise the office of persecution; but he oppressed with an impartial hand the various inhabitants of his extensive diocese. The primate of Egypt assumed the pomp and insolence of his lofty station; but he still betrayed the vices of his base and servile extraction. The merchants of Alexandria were impoverished by the unjust, and almost universal, monopoly, which he acquired, of nitre, salt, paper, funerals, &amp;c.: and the spiritual father of a great people condescended to practise the vile and pernicious arts of an informer. The Alexandrians could never forget, nor forgive, the tax, which he suggested, on all the houses of the city; under an obsolete claim, that the royal founder had conveyed to his successors, the Ptolemies and the Caesars, the perpetual property of the soil. The Pagans, who had been flattered with the hopes of freedom and toleration, excited his devout avarice; and the rich temples of Alexandria were either pillaged or insulted by the haughty prince, who exclaimed, in a loud and threatening tone, &#8220;How long will these sepulchres be permitted to stand?&#8221; Under the reign of Constantius, he was expelled by the fury, or rather by the justice, of the people; and it was not without a violent struggle, that the civil and military powers of the state could restore his authority, and gratify his revenge. The messenger who proclaimed at Alexandria the accession of Julian, announced the downfall of the archbishop. George, with two of his obsequious ministers, Count Diodorus, and Dracontius, master of the mint were ignominiously dragged in chains to the public prison. At the end of twenty-four days, the prison was forced open by the rage of a superstitious multitude, impatient of the tedious forms of judicial proceedings. The enemies of gods and men expired under their cruel insults; the lifeless bodies of the archbishop and his associates were carried in triumph through the streets on the back of a camel;  and the inactivity of the Athanasian party  was esteemed a shining example of evangelical patience. The remains of these guilty wretches were thrown into the sea; and the popular leaders of the tumult declared their resolution to disappoint the devotion of the Christians, and to intercept the future honors of these martyrs, who had been punished, like their predecessors, by the enemies of their religion.  The fears of the Pagans were just, and their precautions ineffectual. The meritorious death of the archbishop obliterated the memory of his life. The rival of Athanasius was dear and sacred to the Arians, and the seeming conversion of those sectaries introduced his worship into the bosom of the Catholic church.   The odious stranger, disguising every circumstance of time and place, assumed the mask of a martyr, a saint, and a Christian hero;   and the infamous George of Cappadocia has been transformed   into the renowned St. George of England, the patron of arms, of chivalry, and of the garter.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9965</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The notion that Muslims are offended by the flag of St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East) is of course utter rubbish.&lt;/i&gt;

Surely if Muslims are offended by the flag of St George, it would most likely be because it resembles a Crusader emblem, rather than because of anything to do with St George himself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The notion that Muslims are offended by the flag of St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East) is of course utter rubbish.</i></p>

<p>Surely if Muslims are offended by the flag of St George, it would most likely be because it resembles a Crusader emblem, rather than because of anything to do with St George himself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9961</link>
		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he notion that Muslims are offended by the flag of St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East) is of course utter rubbish. But its been pushed so much by the likes of Richard Desmond, Murdoch and their tabloids and the other zionists that these people now completely believe it and make it a rallying cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he notion that Muslims are offended by the flag of St George (who is actually a revered figure amongst Muslims in the Middle East) is of course utter rubbish. But its been pushed so much by the likes of Richard Desmond, Murdoch and their tabloids and the other zionists that these people now completely believe it and make it a rallying cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9954</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 06:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;If&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel E</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9939</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Rather less bad than burning embassies because people differ over their sense of humour with citizens of the country concerned, I’d have thought.&lt;/i&gt;

How? Surely if the buildings are already empty then the stabbing is worse. Not that I&#039;m in favour of either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rather less bad than burning embassies because people differ over their sense of humour with citizens of the country concerned, I’d have thought.</i></p>

<p>How? Surely if the buildings are already empty then the stabbing is worse. Not that I&#8217;m in favour of either.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9925</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the lack of media attention this has got says a lot about underlying attitudes in the media towards non-white citizens.&quot;
It may reflect a fear of inspiring imitators. At one time the press downplayed racist activities for that reason. Even though the internet and pirate radio stations make that more difficult- effectively impossible- many senior people in broadcasting and journalism still have a mind-set influenced by older attirudes. There&#039;s something to be said in their favour too: would Lozells have happened without idiots spreading lying rumours?

&quot;English customs? Such as? Being hooligans and stabbing fans of opposing football teams in the buttocks? &quot;
An Italian custom, actually- Roman, to be precise. Rather less bad than burning embassies because people differ over their sense of humour with citizens of the country concerned, I&#039;d have thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the lack of media attention this has got says a lot about underlying attitudes in the media towards non-white citizens.&#8221;
It may reflect a fear of inspiring imitators. At one time the press downplayed racist activities for that reason. Even though the internet and pirate radio stations make that more difficult- effectively impossible- many senior people in broadcasting and journalism still have a mind-set influenced by older attirudes. There&#8217;s something to be said in their favour too: would Lozells have happened without idiots spreading lying rumours?</p>

<p>&#8220;English customs? Such as? Being hooligans and stabbing fans of opposing football teams in the buttocks? &#8221;
An Italian custom, actually- Roman, to be precise. Rather less bad than burning embassies because people differ over their sense of humour with citizens of the country concerned, I&#8217;d have thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9921</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeedsLad: it doesn&#039;t bear thinking about.  Na&#039;oodhu billah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeedsLad: it doesn&#8217;t bear thinking about.  Na&#8217;oodhu billah.</p>
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the video of the Anti-Islam protests in Luton:
http://www.youtube.com/v/A37CQTyVRV4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1

I wonder what would have happened to that red Fiat if it was driven by a hijabi woman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the video of the Anti-Islam protests in Luton:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/A37CQTyVRV4&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1">http://www.youtube.com/v/A37CQTyVRV4&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1</a></p>

<p>I wonder what would have happened to that red Fiat if it was driven by a hijabi woman?</p>
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised you asking questions about criminalising the Muslim community in the same week when a bunch of retards were groomed and set up for almost a year to carryout violent acts on innocent bystanders in America. Imagine if such people given such violent motivation were lost, or they chose to carryout such crime abroad rather than the USA. Why would they conveniently choose from the “Muslims”, or is it because the FBI has no Equal Opportunities program?

What America does to black communities is to declare war upon the social environment.  Any person with interest in justice can see how it is supposedly &quot;difficult&quot; to catch rapists, but it is easy to put the victims of poverty for &quot;drug dealing&quot;. That is because the police get bonuses for arresting people for whatever, whether it is carrying a knife etc. So are they going to spend their time solving rapes, when they could easily get promotion for arresting people for minor offences? 

People do whatever they consider as &quot;viable&quot; in their environment, so by &quot;sexing up&quot; Al- Majnoons, the idea is for the Muslims to tolerate such ideas of marginalisation. This is today&#039;s house rules, and Muslims will definitely loose if they do not become aware of the war upon them.  Just like the pain brought upon to the black communities by the drug dealers, the Muslims will be sent a deluge of Al-Majnoons and the criminal Abu Hamza clan.
Another interesting fact I noticed is the similarities between the drug wars in America which is basically a war left for the poor to fight over dead-end scraps can also be seen between Muslims in the name of &quot;religious schools&quot; and &quot;Mullahdom&quot; depending upon which Mullah one chooses to follow.  Look what is now happening in Somalia and Pakistan where there are Muslim groups mindlessly fighting each other because of the involvement of foreign powers and sponsors.  All the roads Muslims are on these days seem to be heading down a dark road, a road where Islam and its followers have no value and with no common shared purpose.

Because of this, our women and children will be considered time bomb, while our institutions such as mosques, schools etc will rightfully be assumed as &quot;drug dens&quot; deserving of police raids, wiretraps, and even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised you asking questions about criminalising the Muslim community in the same week when a bunch of retards were groomed and set up for almost a year to carryout violent acts on innocent bystanders in America. Imagine if such people given such violent motivation were lost, or they chose to carryout such crime abroad rather than the USA. Why would they conveniently choose from the “Muslims”, or is it because the FBI has no Equal Opportunities program?</p>

<p>What America does to black communities is to declare war upon the social environment.  Any person with interest in justice can see how it is supposedly &#8220;difficult&#8221; to catch rapists, but it is easy to put the victims of poverty for &#8220;drug dealing&#8221;. That is because the police get bonuses for arresting people for whatever, whether it is carrying a knife etc. So are they going to spend their time solving rapes, when they could easily get promotion for arresting people for minor offences? </p>

<p>People do whatever they consider as &#8220;viable&#8221; in their environment, so by &#8220;sexing up&#8221; Al- Majnoons, the idea is for the Muslims to tolerate such ideas of marginalisation. This is today&#8217;s house rules, and Muslims will definitely loose if they do not become aware of the war upon them.  Just like the pain brought upon to the black communities by the drug dealers, the Muslims will be sent a deluge of Al-Majnoons and the criminal Abu Hamza clan.
Another interesting fact I noticed is the similarities between the drug wars in America which is basically a war left for the poor to fight over dead-end scraps can also be seen between Muslims in the name of &#8220;religious schools&#8221; and &#8220;Mullahdom&#8221; depending upon which Mullah one chooses to follow.  Look what is now happening in Somalia and Pakistan where there are Muslim groups mindlessly fighting each other because of the involvement of foreign powers and sponsors.  All the roads Muslims are on these days seem to be heading down a dark road, a road where Islam and its followers have no value and with no common shared purpose.</p>

<p>Because of this, our women and children will be considered time bomb, while our institutions such as mosques, schools etc will rightfully be assumed as &#8220;drug dens&#8221; deserving of police raids, wiretraps, and even worse.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/05/26/thugs_go_on_rampage_in_luton#comment-9864</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 06:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So basically, they want all Muslims to become like Majnoons, just like America sells violence to black Americans to fill their prisons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re suggesting that US politicians enact policies which make black crime worse, because they&#039;re corrupt and in the pocket of the prison-industrial complex?  (And though you didn&#039;t say it, also so they can use racism to distract the white voters from the true causes of  &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; problems).

Exatly what kind of corruption in British politics would encourage politicians to make Muslims into extremists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>So basically, they want all Muslims to become like Majnoons, just like America sells violence to black Americans to fill their prisons.</blockquote>

<p>You&#8217;re suggesting that US politicians enact policies which make black crime worse, because they&#8217;re corrupt and in the pocket of the prison-industrial complex?  (And though you didn&#8217;t say it, also so they can use racism to distract the white voters from the true causes of  <i>their</i> problems).</p>

<p>Exatly what kind of corruption in British politics would encourage politicians to make Muslims into extremists?</p>
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