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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-12258</link>
		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;With Saudis investing in America weapons groups rather than developing their own&lt;/blockquote&gt;I very much doubt the House of Saud wants functional armed forces, because a competent army in Saudi Arabia would be very likely to launch a coup.
&lt;blockquote&gt;and continuing to give legitimacy to the ugly UN&lt;/blockquote&gt;Odd, considering I&#039;ve seen plenty of right-wing American sites attacking the UN for not being pro-Israel enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><blockquote>With Saudis investing in America weapons groups rather than developing their own</blockquote>I very much doubt the House of Saud wants functional armed forces, because a competent army in Saudi Arabia would be very likely to launch a coup.
<blockquote>and continuing to give legitimacy to the ugly UN</blockquote>Odd, considering I&#8217;ve seen plenty of right-wing American sites attacking the UN for not being pro-Israel enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11787</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saggal: he is not German, but a Russian immigrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saggal: he is not German, but a Russian immigrant.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11773</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;alex w... (inherent evil in the German character it seems) &quot;
Actually, he is also an immigrant, so there&#039;s a better argument against letting all these damned foreigners in in the forst place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;alex w&#8230; (inherent evil in the German character it seems) &#8221;
Actually, he is also an immigrant, so there&#8217;s a better argument against letting all these damned foreigners in in the forst place.</p>
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		<title>By: Saggal</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11768</link>
		<dc:creator>Saggal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;However, banning niqab would restrict the ability of women to leave their homes and so would increase the power of the men.

Agreed. It would also &#039;empower&#039; european alex ws (inherent evil in the German character it seems) to go out and murder any woman wearing a headscarf...so men, which ever way one looks at this, are still dictating to women from all directions, and now women are paying with their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;However, banning niqab would restrict the ability of women to leave their homes and so would increase the power of the men.</p>

<p>Agreed. It would also &#8216;empower&#8217; european alex ws (inherent evil in the German character it seems) to go out and murder any woman wearing a headscarf&#8230;so men, which ever way one looks at this, are still dictating to women from all directions, and now women are paying with their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11727</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sarkozy’s speech demonising the niqab (French TV crews have had a tough time locating any niqabis -that’s how negligible they are as an issue of national import)&quot;
...or perhaps it shows how effective Sarkozy&#039;s speech was. 

Even if niqab-wearers were common they would still be negligible as an issue of national import. What is imoprtant is that there is evidence that in parts of France the male members of the muslim &quot;community&quot; feel entitled to force the women to dress and behave according to what the men think are proper standards, including niqabs. However, the niqab itself is only one symptomamtic aspect of a larger problem affecting muslims in France- and in much of Europe- and the larger communities they live among. However, banning niqab would restrict the ability of women to leave their homes and so would increase the power of the men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarkozy’s speech demonising the niqab (French TV crews have had a tough time locating any niqabis -that’s how negligible they are as an issue of national import)&#8221;
&#8230;or perhaps it shows how effective Sarkozy&#8217;s speech was. </p>

<p>Even if niqab-wearers were common they would still be negligible as an issue of national import. What is imoprtant is that there is evidence that in parts of France the male members of the muslim &#8220;community&#8221; feel entitled to force the women to dress and behave according to what the men think are proper standards, including niqabs. However, the niqab itself is only one symptomamtic aspect of a larger problem affecting muslims in France- and in much of Europe- and the larger communities they live among. However, banning niqab would restrict the ability of women to leave their homes and so would increase the power of the men.</p>
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		<title>By: LeedsLad</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11706</link>
		<dc:creator>LeedsLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims need respect, and we cannot get it until we all defend our women and children with nuclear weapons of our own. With Saudis investing in America weapons groups rather than developing their own, ignoring support to Iran and continuing to give legitimacy to the ugly UN; nothing will change for the better except a downward spiral and loss.

All this is because the Muslim world has been divided up by race with Arabs assuming themselves to be Caucasians hence brothers with their nemesis. King of Saud is a regular punter of the Bilderberg meetings, and what do &quot;Islam&quot; get in return because &quot;Judaism&quot; certainly gets a lot out of those meetings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslims need respect, and we cannot get it until we all defend our women and children with nuclear weapons of our own. With Saudis investing in America weapons groups rather than developing their own, ignoring support to Iran and continuing to give legitimacy to the ugly UN; nothing will change for the better except a downward spiral and loss.</p>

<p>All this is because the Muslim world has been divided up by race with Arabs assuming themselves to be Caucasians hence brothers with their nemesis. King of Saud is a regular punter of the Bilderberg meetings, and what do &#8220;Islam&#8221; get in return because &#8220;Judaism&#8221; certainly gets a lot out of those meetings?</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11697</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saggal: I agree about the scum.  I will probably start using a registration system here soon, so that only trusted people can comment without moderation.  That was easy on MT as it was built-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saggal: I agree about the scum.  I will probably start using a registration system here soon, so that only trusted people can comment without moderation.  That was easy on MT as it was built-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Saggal</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11691</link>
		<dc:creator>Saggal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaams Yusuf,

Allowing unmoderated comments on your blog sadly is attracting all sorts of scum to leave their repugnant remarks. Allahyarhamah Marwa is a Hijab Martyr. I am so badly shaken by this barbaric killing (a pregnant lady gets stabbed 18 times in a so-called court of law in a so-called civilized country for the crime of wearing a headscarf and nobody even utters a word).

Sadly, we can expect more murders of helpless Muslim women in the streets of Europe with the likes of that demagogue (sarkozy)choosing the niqab (for this is what he must mean since, as has been pointed out already, there are no burka wearing women in France)to turn the attention of the French away from the serious issues facing their country.

Sarkozy&#039;s speech demonising the niqab (French TV crews have had a tough time locating any niqabis -that&#039;s how negligible they are as an issue of national import)was the equivalent of Gordon Brown launching a major initiative for British people to eat grey squirrel in order to save England&#039;s red indigenous squirrel on the week the MPs expenses scandal broke. Except in the U.K, at least that&#039;s what I like to think, the public would have been more outraged. Apparently, Europeans in other countries think differently and just dance to their leaders tune (Italy a case in point -the Prime Minister bribes a lawyer (David Mills) and stays in office. Again, I like to think this would not be allowed to happen in Britain. But then again if more politicians become fixated with Hijab who knows what might happen in Britain? Harriet Harman went on anti-hijab tirade to lift her national profile when she ran for deputy leader of NuLab and it worked -She got lots of news coverage.

Al-Fatiha for Marwa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaams Yusuf,</p>

<p>Allowing unmoderated comments on your blog sadly is attracting all sorts of scum to leave their repugnant remarks. Allahyarhamah Marwa is a Hijab Martyr. I am so badly shaken by this barbaric killing (a pregnant lady gets stabbed 18 times in a so-called court of law in a so-called civilized country for the crime of wearing a headscarf and nobody even utters a word).</p>

<p>Sadly, we can expect more murders of helpless Muslim women in the streets of Europe with the likes of that demagogue (sarkozy)choosing the niqab (for this is what he must mean since, as has been pointed out already, there are no burka wearing women in France)to turn the attention of the French away from the serious issues facing their country.</p>

<p>Sarkozy&#8217;s speech demonising the niqab (French TV crews have had a tough time locating any niqabis -that&#8217;s how negligible they are as an issue of national import)was the equivalent of Gordon Brown launching a major initiative for British people to eat grey squirrel in order to save England&#8217;s red indigenous squirrel on the week the MPs expenses scandal broke. Except in the U.K, at least that&#8217;s what I like to think, the public would have been more outraged. Apparently, Europeans in other countries think differently and just dance to their leaders tune (Italy a case in point -the Prime Minister bribes a lawyer (David Mills) and stays in office. Again, I like to think this would not be allowed to happen in Britain. But then again if more politicians become fixated with Hijab who knows what might happen in Britain? Harriet Harman went on anti-hijab tirade to lift her national profile when she ran for deputy leader of NuLab and it worked -She got lots of news coverage.</p>

<p>Al-Fatiha for Marwa.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakoub Islam</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2009/07/07/the_price_of_bigotry#comment-11683</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakoub Islam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some Muslims are (understandably) prone to hyperbole and reactionary politics, but even the more cautious Muslims are now stating that Europe - including the UK - has crossed a threshhold where it is now widely legitimate to view all Muslims with suspicion and hatred. Sadly, some Muslims who belong to the media elites, cacooned in their 50K+ lifestyles, haven&#039;t woken up to it. All we need now is a period of social disruption brought on by climate change or more neoliberal avarice, and things could turn nasty, God forbid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some Muslims are (understandably) prone to hyperbole and reactionary politics, but even the more cautious Muslims are now stating that Europe - including the UK - has crossed a threshhold where it is now widely legitimate to view all Muslims with suspicion and hatred. Sadly, some Muslims who belong to the media elites, cacooned in their 50K+ lifestyles, haven&#8217;t woken up to it. All we need now is a period of social disruption brought on by climate change or more neoliberal avarice, and things could turn nasty, God forbid.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Muslims were machine gunning down German tourist in Egypt some years back the Muslims made every exscuse (many considered them heroes) in the book for the perpetrators. If this lady was such a pious Muslims she would have stayed in Egypt, and not lived in kafir Germany. Can we consider this murder for a murder, an Islamic belief?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Muslims were machine gunning down German tourist in Egypt some years back the Muslims made every exscuse (many considered them heroes) in the book for the perpetrators. If this lady was such a pious Muslims she would have stayed in Egypt, and not lived in kafir Germany. Can we consider this murder for a murder, an Islamic belief?</p>
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