Comments on: Former K-Towners who leave Islam

By: Cairene Shoe Fancier

Cairene Shoe Fancier — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:34:33 +0000

To digress slightly..

If the evidence for a ‘truth’ is based on a teleology, then, by definition, it’s not an empirically derived truth but rather a statement of belief. Why use a capital first letter when you can say what you really mean?

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Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:44:57 +0000

[…] Indigo Jo Blogs » Former K-Towners who leave Islam Recently sister Safiya (Outlines) posted an article about the situation of women who got hurt in the Kharabsheh or “K-Town” community in Jordan; this is the community of Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller’s students who settle in or around his zawiya. One recurring theme, in a comment on that entry and on a blog linked off that entry ([1], [2]), is that there have been a few women who have left Islam after having a miserable time there. […]

By: Kayshan

Kayshan — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:47:28 +0000

@ Leeds Lad: What a curious comment could you clarify that statement

By: LeedsLad

LeedsLad — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:36:41 +0000

lol, and I had a different experience. Jews made me leave Islam. Now I beleive Islam itself is corrupt if it makes us respect such racist people.

By: Zaynab

Zaynab — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:10:10 +0000

Sorry still bit of a headache from fasting, I left out a point, but my last post i promise. I just meant that I had read the other post fulana is referring to and that is not by the owner. The one ilyas linked to is, but she’s not saying anything there that anybody doesn’t say about islam. if that is proof of being a former Muslim, i’m curious to know when Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders left Islam.

By: Zaynab

Zaynab — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:06:15 +0000

Also, is it now that we accuse anyone who dares to disagree with us of having left Islam? And it’s Ramzan too, Ilyas.

By: Zaynab

Zaynab — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:04:26 +0000

@ br Ilyas -

I wonder about the comprehension skills of yourself and br Yusuf. I read the archived post and the one about Islam - which wasn’t even by the blog’s owner. But it seems like you guys will leap to any conclusions you must in order to slander people, especially those who decide they’d rather not follow sh Keller. But drawing in people who don’t even have anything to do with us? Low and desperate. Who is really barking here?

By: ilyas

ilyas — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:52:59 +0000

@ fulana I posted one piece of information on one blog. And it was relevant to the matter at hand. The claim was made by that albedo person that the blogger in question left Islam because a supposed connection with Kharabsheh, when in fact she (or you?) left Islam for other reasons entirely. That clarification was important to make, as her situation should not be used to besmirch a Muslim, whether a Sheikh or any other believer. The reputation of a Muslim is inviolable, while some smidgen of biographical information about a person who blogs openly about their disdain for Allah, the Prophet SalAllahu alaihi wasallam, Islam and the Muslims, is decidedly less so. My only interest in the matter (as I’ve mentioned before to the person in question) is when people use their status as former Muslims (or are used by others because of it) to bring harm to the Ummah. Other than that, I really could not care less about them and their lives (except to make dua for their regaining some perspective).

Lastly, in my comment to Sis. Safiya, I did advise her to remove that link for the sake of the blogger’s privacy, but by now that would be fruitless, as the cat is out of the proverbial bag.

Allah yihdeek.

By: Abu Yusha

Abu Yusha — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:33:54 +0000

“The blogs bark and the caravan moves on” says the Sheikh himself.

By: 'Abd ul-Ghafûr

'Abd ul-Ghafûr — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:46:23 +0000

As-salamu alaykum,

Has shaykh Nuh or any of his murids (who support the shaykh) commented on this mess in any way?