Mad Mel: ban Shari’ah to stop terrorism

MELANIE PHILLIPS: To our eternal shame, Britain is STILL a hub for Islamic terror | Mail Online

Melanie Phillips, in response to the attempted aeroplane bombing on Christmas day, writes another of her rants for the Daily Mail, claiming that it was all down to the fact that “Londonistan” has become a hub for Islamic extremists and radicals from all around the world and that “British universities have been turned into terrorism recruitment centres”, etc. (Also available at her website.)

Phillips has clearly forgotten basic facts about this incident.

First, Britain was a magnet for these extremists in the 1990s, not the past decade. I have said it more than once here before that they were a menace to the Muslim community, on at least one occasion taking over a mosque from the local Muslim community. Anyone who attended Regent’s Park up until 2001 will remember these dark-faced, prowling men of mostly Algerian, Egyptian and Palestinian origin. I even remember what came close to a fist fight in there caused by one of these men, and on one occasion (reported in Q-News in 1996 or 1997) they stormed a mosque wedding, calling the guests kaafirs and accusing them of drinking alcohol. I haven’t been back there in a while, but I’ve been told that they’ve gone, and that the mosque is all the better for it.

These people came in as part of the waves of refugees who were fleeing the civil war in Algeria in particular. Most of them were perfectly innocent. Whatever set dominates the Islamic society at Kingston University, the town itself is not known for this sort of trouble despite the high Algerian presence.

Second, the terrorist’s views were established long before he even came to the UK — his teachers at a British-run school in Togo claim they heard him support the 9/11 attacks, for example, at the time. He studied in the UK between 2005 and 2008. He has not been back since then, and was banned from returning because he appeared to be applying to study at a non-existent college.

So how does this constitute a British connection to the attack itself? He moved to Egypt after leaving the UK, and then to Dubai, and claims that he received training in Yemen. He was also involved with the group known as Boko Haram, which caused a lot of bloodshed in Nigeria in 2008 and 2009. He attempted to bomb a plane out of Amsterdam, not somewhere in the UK. He attended East London mosque, but so do thousands of local Muslims; it is the main mosque for that part of east London, and probably for numerous Muslims who work in the City of London. Whoever is left in London that could influence someone to become an extremist, the chances are that his “education” came from somewhere else, possibly the internet.

Her solution is to ban Shari’ah courts and Hizb-ut-Tahrir and to stop talking to the MCB:

So the Government should say that Muslims are welcome to live here on exactly the same basis as all other religious minorities - that they accept the principle of one law for all, and do nothing to threaten or undermine the prevailing culture.

That means an end to the increasing toleration of Islamic sharia law as the effective jurisdiction in Muslim areas, which so badly threatens in particular the safety and well-being of women, homosexuals and converts from the faith.

She knows full well that Muslim Shari’ah tribunals have no more power or authority than the Jewish Beth Din. They exist only to settle property disputes and religious marriage issues between those who consent to their arbitration and are not an “effective jurisdiction” anywhere in the UK as they have no power to administer criminal law, as they all seem to accept, so threatening the “safety” of anyone is out of the question. As for Hizb-ut-Tahrir, it is widely known that they have nothing to do with these bombings and that anyone who gets involved in them will become nothing worse than a religious-political bore unless they decide that HT are not radical enough. HT are not Sinn Fein to al-Qa’ida’s IRA; they and al-Qa’ida have two entirely different ideologies. You cannot get rid of al-Qa’ida by banning HT.

So, Phillips is advocating a clampdown on British Muslims so as to stop this — an attack on a plane that didn’t go from, or to, the UK by a man who wasn’t from the UK, had not been here for more than a year and was trained somewhere else; in short, an attack which probably had nothing to do with the UK — happening again. It is quite ridiculous, but Phillips can get away with it because her audience does not care whether or not she is telling the truth and her publishers can make money from it.

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  • http://www.bayyinat.org.uk/cv2.htm Yakoub

    The usual stupidity provoked by these incidents seems to have infected Ruth Gledhill, the Times’ religions correspondent, who posed the question on Twitter, “Is it a coincidence that the latest Muslim airline bomber hails from criminal Sharia state in northern Nigeria?” - so is Ruthy implying a connection between ahl as-Sunnah wa-Jama’a Shariah Islam and terrorist fruitcakes? Her blog was less overt in respect of this ‘coincidence’, but clearly it was relevant to mention stoning and the cutting off of hands (which are rarely enacted, but no need to mention that). Just don’t not mention how the US gulag.

  • http://www.drmaxtor.blogspot.com DrM

    What is this wrinkled up old parasitic zionist turd babbling about? Terrorism will decline once Judeofascism is eradicated.

  • George Carty

    How do you propose to achieve that DrM, when the Judeofascists have hundreds of nuclear weapons? IIRC the Israelis are also getting nuke-carrying submarines, which means that even if Iran or another Muslim state in the Middle East got nukes of its own, it would no longer have the ability to launch a successful counterforce strike against Israel.

    On the original posting, while HT and al-Qa’ida are certainly not closely linked like Sinn Féin and the IRA, could HT not serve as an introduction to Islamist extremist ideology — essentially having the same role in Islamist terrorism as the John Birch Society has in rightwing American domestic terrorism?

  • http://www.drmaxtor.blogspot.com DrM

    @George,

    Nukes can only go so far. Judeofascism will be eliminated once the world gets serious and hits them with a total economic blockade including pulling out all western outsourced industries. “Dual israeli citizens” should also be detained and extensively profiled. Without constant infusion of financial, political and military aid, “israel” would fold like a cheap deck of cards.

  • George Carty

    Couldn’t Israel threaten to nuke the cities of whichever countries participated in the blockade, or just use conventional air strikes against the blockade fleet itself? A blockade is an act of war — Egypt’s blockade of the Tiran Straits was Israel’s pretext to attack in ‘67.

    And even if it did bring down Israel’s economy (which isn’t inevitable — Israel could just expel or exterminate the Palestinians, then hunker down a la North Korea), wouldn’t Israel go down in a blaze of glory by nuking every major Muslim city (plus maybe some European cities too)?

    The Cold War Soviets didn’t believe that defeat meant extermination. The Israelis do.

  • LeedsLad

    Dr M,

    Biggest enemies Muslims have so far is Muslims themselves. The Jews are only looking out for their interests and cannot see anything or anybody else which is admirable. But is it in the interest of Muslims to waste time constantly bitching like a woman and no action to progress their societies and technological capacity.

    Even in the old Palestine, the issue that hurts Arabs the most is in-breeding due to restrictions of movements brought upon by Jew laws. The result is a high frequency of birth defects, mental issues and other genetic disorders.

    When the Muslims of Mecca were threatened and living in fear, prophet Mohamed(pbuh) left the city refusing to live under the subjugation of the unbelievers. But Muslims of today would rather have these Arabs live under Jew enslavement program than taking them out of their misery for a future glory.

    We should not be hostages to peace, and go back to our common sense and Sunnah. Notice how the majority of these “bombers” are all from affluent backgrounds having exposure to media i.e Al-Jazeera. These emotionally driven services emasculate us and are just counter productive.

  • ali khan

    Greetings Everybody

    All ofthe above assumes that what was reported in the press is true and that you can trust them and the security services ‘cuz my dad’s a vicar’, right?

    PPleeaase.. give me a break. This so called attempted bombing makes the keystone cops look professional. The whole thing is about as genuine as a nine pound note.

    We have to stop being so defensive about situations like these and be proactive. Just call a spade a spade

  • ali khan

    Greetings Everybody

    All ofthe above assumes that what was reported in the press is true and that you can trust them and the security services ‘cuz my dad’s a vicar’, right?

    PPleeaase.. give me a break. This so called attempted bombing makes the keystone cops look professional. The whole thing is about as genuine as a nine pound note. STAGED written all over it.

    We have to stop being so defensive about situations like these and be proactive. Just call a spade a spade. How hard is that? I am not saying that muslims are not evil enough to do these sorts of acts,far from it. We have some of the best scum/dictators money can buy and historically we have the khawarij who predate any intellligence agencies of the last two hundred years. A couple of vodka sours and two hours at spearmint rhino and you can get your very own suicide nut.

    My point is that when we talk to non muslims we should point out the record of the media/military/bankIng complex. These characters in government are the lowest of the low who only care about number one. Time again these vermin have committed ghastly crimes against ordinary people and then admit it in declassified documents. I am talking about tuskeegee in the states,the forced sterilisation of women in scandinavia, nuclear/radiation experiments on troops in the usa and uk and recently the case of children from the uk shipped off to Australia. All of them disgusting and these are only the well known ones. Oh I forgot, now these scum torture children, and you thought things couldnt get worse.

    These manufactured events are used to distract from the real issue which is the banks robbing the skin off your very back. Wag the dog indeed. There will be more events like these as the economy goes to hell in a handbasket,especially since the popularity of Lord/Saviour Child torturer- in-chief Obama goes down like a lead balloon.

    Stop the ninnying, grovelling inferiority complex ridden attitude, grow some kahunas and tell it like it is.No ifs and no buts.

  • http://www.drmaxtor.blogspot.com DrM

    @George, I don’t think the “israelis” are so insane they would threaten to nuke the West if it took a tough line with them. I don’t believe they have the ability to take out the US and Europe just like that. Nor do I believe for a second that could last a month without constant western handouts.

    @Leeds lad, I’m afriad you don’t get it. You’re practicing displacement and don’t seem to realize how interconnected the factors are. I could just as easily say that most Americans are the victims of of other Americans, and that more of them die from traffic accidents then by terrorism. I don’t have a problem with Jews perusing their own self-interest as long as it doesn’t involve infringing on anyone else’s rights and dignity. Judeofascism can’t do so.

    @Ali Khan, Excellent points!

  • George Carty

    @DrM, if Israel has no plans to use its nuclear weapons even if faced with catastrophic defeat, then why they hell did they build the bloody things? Nuclear weapons are extremely expensive - think of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto’s “we’ll eat grass, but we’ll make a nuclear bomb” comment.

    Do you think Israel’s nukes were a means of extorting conventional military assistance from the Western powers? (This is what analysts suspect apartheid South Africa’s nukes were for.)

    And if they did decide to use their nukes, why wouldn’t they save some for Europe once they wiped out the Ummah? (I’m not sure if they have missiles capable of hitting North America.)

    After all, Europeans perpetrated the Holocaust, and many Jews are unwilling to confine the blame to where it belongs (the Nazis and their accomplices). When William Rubenstein, attacked this common Jewish view in “They Myth of Rescue” he remarked that he would probably have been accused of antisemitism if he hadn’t been Jewish himself.