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		<title>By: africana</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/17/muslim_women_driving_and_contrasts_on_niqab#comment-40417</link>
		<dc:creator>africana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the word turban refers is from the the persian word dulband, meaning to tie, to close.turkey does share a border with iran and kurdish is somewhat related to farsi so this might explain its use, although it is unusual that the turks use the anglicised version of the word rather then the original farsi. perhaps, this has to do with the kemalist policy of replacing the arabic alphabet with that of the latin alphabet as part of the kemalist de-arabisation policy.

&quot;Pagri or Pagadi (Hindi: पगड़ी, Marathi: पगडी, Punjabi: ਪਗੜੀ) is the term for a turban within India. It specifically refers to a headdress that is worn by men and needs to be manually tied. In several regional dialects it is often shortened to Pag (पग).&quot;

-from wiki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the word turban refers is from the the persian word dulband, meaning to tie, to close.turkey does share a border with iran and kurdish is somewhat related to farsi so this might explain its use, although it is unusual that the turks use the anglicised version of the word rather then the original farsi. perhaps, this has to do with the kemalist policy of replacing the arabic alphabet with that of the latin alphabet as part of the kemalist de-arabisation policy.</p>

<p>&#8220;Pagri or Pagadi (Hindi: पगड़ी, Marathi: पगडी, Punjabi: ਪਗੜੀ) is the term for a turban within India. It specifically refers to a headdress that is worn by men and needs to be manually tied. In several regional dialects it is often shortened to Pag (पग).&#8221;</p>

<p>-from wiki</p>
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		<title>By: africana</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/17/muslim_women_driving_and_contrasts_on_niqab#comment-40416</link>
		<dc:creator>africana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for a minute i was wondering what had prompted the mass migration of east africans to java as i just read that as sudanese, rather than sundanese.

also, i&#039;ve met bengali&#039;s who seemed to be using burqa to mean niqab,whereas i was only familar with it in reference to the shuttlecock burqa of afghanistan.
in algeria, people don&#039;t seem generally familair with the term, niqab, although it hink the term was coined by western muslims, wasn&#039;t it?
interesting break down, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for a minute i was wondering what had prompted the mass migration of east africans to java as i just read that as sudanese, rather than sundanese.</p>

<p>also, i&#8217;ve met bengali&#8217;s who seemed to be using burqa to mean niqab,whereas i was only familar with it in reference to the shuttlecock burqa of afghanistan.
in algeria, people don&#8217;t seem generally familair with the term, niqab, although it hink the term was coined by western muslims, wasn&#8217;t it?
interesting break down, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, different terms are used for different garments in different parts of the world -- it&#039;s like the term pants is used in the USA to mean trousers, and in the UK it often means underpants. The Arabic for the man&#039;s headwrap is &quot;amama&quot; from an Arabic verb meaning to wrap. I&#039;m not sure what the Punjabi for turban is (almost all Sikhs are Punjabi), but the custom is derived from the Muslim garment.

The Malay for a headscarf is tudung (the &quot;Indonesian&quot; language is in fact Malay, although most people on Java, outside Jakarta, actually speak Javanese or Sundanese, although Malay is also spoken on Sumatra and Borneo). The original Arabic jilbab was actually worn over the head, not from the shoulders, so a headscarf may be regarded as a shorter version of the jilbab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, different terms are used for different garments in different parts of the world &#8212; it&#8217;s like the term pants is used in the USA to mean trousers, and in the UK it often means underpants. The Arabic for the man&#8217;s headwrap is &#8220;amama&#8221; from an Arabic verb meaning to wrap. I&#8217;m not sure what the Punjabi for turban is (almost all Sikhs are Punjabi), but the custom is derived from the Muslim garment.</p>

<p>The Malay for a headscarf is tudung (the &#8220;Indonesian&#8221; language is in fact Malay, although most people on Java, outside Jakarta, actually speak Javanese or Sundanese, although Malay is also spoken on Sumatra and Borneo). The original Arabic jilbab was actually worn over the head, not from the shoulders, so a headscarf may be regarded as a shorter version of the jilbab.</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do the Turks use the word &lt;i&gt;turban&lt;/i&gt; to refer to a woman&#039;s headscarf?  (As opposed to the male headcovering worn by Sikhs, as well as by a minority of Muslims.)

It&#039;s just as confusing as the Indonesian usage of &lt;i&gt;jilbab&lt;/i&gt; in reference to a headscarf.  (Someone told me that when Indonesians say &quot;hijab&quot; they mean &quot;niqab&quot;, is this true?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the Turks use the word <i>turban</i> to refer to a woman&#8217;s headscarf?  (As opposed to the male headcovering worn by Sikhs, as well as by a minority of Muslims.)</p>

<p>It&#8217;s just as confusing as the Indonesian usage of <i>jilbab</i> in reference to a headscarf.  (Someone told me that when Indonesians say &#8220;hijab&#8221; they mean &#8220;niqab&#8221;, is this true?)</p>
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		<title>By: ilahiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilahiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also this situation same in Turkey. For example, if you are wear turban, you cannot study in university or high school, or you cannot work in public office. You have to take out your turban. :(( God bless them, this is a very sad situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also this situation same in Turkey. For example, if you are wear turban, you cannot study in university or high school, or you cannot work in public office. You have to take out your turban. :(( God bless them, this is a very sad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo Blogs &#8212; Niqaab and rickets in the UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo Blogs &#8212; Niqaab and rickets in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hour in which women&#8217;s health was not even discussed (I didn&#8217;t hear it, but if previous form is anything to go by, it hinged on social interaction and security). The theory is pretty simple: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Hour in which women&#8217;s health was not even discussed (I didn&#8217;t hear it, but if previous form is anything to go by, it hinged on social interaction and security). The theory is pretty simple: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ali khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ali khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>assalamualaykum 

@Bint_n
Totally agree with you. Pearson (who looks like your classic peadophile) had bugger all to say. I cant believe Ukip made this loser their treasurer/spokesman. Despite their anti-eu rhetoric, ukip are nothing but a bunch of bnp suits.

Did miryam host an episode of Islam channel at one time?

Wassalaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assalamualaykum </p>

<p>@Bint_n
Totally agree with you. Pearson (who looks like your classic peadophile) had bugger all to say. I cant believe Ukip made this loser their treasurer/spokesman. Despite their anti-eu rhetoric, ukip are nothing but a bunch of bnp suits.</p>

<p>Did miryam host an episode of Islam channel at one time?</p>

<p>Wassalaam</p>
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		<title>By: africana</title>
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		<dc:creator>africana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, i do check by every now and again.never found the time to comment, though! am living in the heart of muslim glasgow now.
take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, i do check by every now and again.never found the time to comment, though! am living in the heart of muslim glasgow now.
take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum,

I hadn&#039;t thought of that angle of it.  Yes, the convert who&#039;d been off the rails previously is a common stereotype.

Where have you been?  I haven&#039;t seen you on here in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum,</p>

<p>I hadn&#8217;t thought of that angle of it.  Yes, the convert who&#8217;d been off the rails previously is a common stereotype.</p>

<p>Where have you been?  I haven&#8217;t seen you on here in years.</p>
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		<title>By: africana</title>
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		<dc:creator>africana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu Alaikum,

Muslim Driving school...the bit where they had the imam/driving instructor saying that he was patient and then being shown to be other than patient when in the car created a poor impression. It&#039;s possible the film makers used only the bits where he&#039;d lost his patience and interspaced them with shots of him in his pupil&#039;s house talking about the need foragood instructor to be patient etc.

Also, I have noticed that when converts are portrayed, it&#039;s not generally someone form a normal, trouble free background but someone who went off the rails not someone the vast majority of non Muslims can realte to.  Alhamdulillah for stacey, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu Alaikum,</p>

<p>Muslim Driving school&#8230;the bit where they had the imam/driving instructor saying that he was patient and then being shown to be other than patient when in the car created a poor impression. It&#8217;s possible the film makers used only the bits where he&#8217;d lost his patience and interspaced them with shots of him in his pupil&#8217;s house talking about the need foragood instructor to be patient etc.</p>

<p>Also, I have noticed that when converts are portrayed, it&#8217;s not generally someone form a normal, trouble free background but someone who went off the rails not someone the vast majority of non Muslims can realte to.  Alhamdulillah for stacey, though!</p>
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