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	<title>Comments on: On Mercy</title>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21897</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on both cases. 

Whether &quot;mercy killing&quot; or self defence, the sentence is the bit where any mercy should be shown, rather than tinkering with the law.

Juries are usually pretty sensible about this kind of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on both cases. </p>

<p>Whether &#8220;mercy killing&#8221; or self defence, the sentence is the bit where any mercy should be shown, rather than tinkering with the law.</p>

<p>Juries are usually pretty sensible about this kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21868</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs.Inglis &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; tried and convicted of murder, highblack.com. Nine years is the minimum sentence she must serve, so it isn&#039;t exactly lenient. As far as I know, there has never been a comparable case, so there can&#039;t be much deterrent effect on other people in the sentence and Mrs. Inglis isn&#039;t likely to need to be prevented from repeating her crime, so her sentence serves only as punishment and an expression of social disapproval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs.Inglis <b>was</b> tried and convicted of murder, highblack.com. Nine years is the minimum sentence she must serve, so it isn&#8217;t exactly lenient. As far as I know, there has never been a comparable case, so there can&#8217;t be much deterrent effect on other people in the sentence and Mrs. Inglis isn&#8217;t likely to need to be prevented from repeating her crime, so her sentence serves only as punishment and an expression of social disapproval.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon: it doesn&#039;t say that anywhere in the *Reliance of the Traveller* or any other Muslim law book.  The penalty for theft in Islam is well-known and for violent robbery, the full range of penalties are available to the state.  The point is that Munir Hussain dealt with one of the robbers with excessive force after the danger had passed, causing permanent injury.

The fact that he was Muslim is only relevant in that Muslims showed an interest in it.  I thought it would also do to point out to Muslims that the rule of &quot;reasonable force&quot; exists in the Shari&#039;ah and isn&#039;t an invention of English law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon: it doesn&#8217;t say that anywhere in the <em>Reliance of the Traveller</em> or any other Muslim law book.  The penalty for theft in Islam is well-known and for violent robbery, the full range of penalties are available to the state.  The point is that Munir Hussain dealt with one of the robbers with excessive force after the danger had passed, causing permanent injury.</p>

<p>The fact that he was Muslim is only relevant in that Muslims showed an interest in it.  I thought it would also do to point out to Muslims that the rule of &#8220;reasonable force&#8221; exists in the Shari&#8217;ah and isn&#8217;t an invention of English law.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21834</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely in the case of Walid Salem you need to justify where the part is in the &quot;reliance of the traveller&quot; that says that you can go into someone&#039;s home and take their belongings. There are rules for defending your home that you have to stick to, but to state that they are both muslims would imply that they are both not overly good at it. Are either of these men defendable? It this a typical occurence for Muslims? Is this a typical occurence for any religion? Is this what happens when religions get westernised? 

The whole point of this article is to show that Muslims can be criminals. Why be so quick to state their religion, how often do you see information stating that criminals are Christians? I don&#039;t think I need to answer that really.

Religion should not be tied up with criminal activity, or tied up to every crime. The press are very quick to criticise and slur what they choose to, it&#039;s probably best not to play into their hands with blogs, the overall perception of Muslims is not good, how about blogging about what good Muslims are doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely in the case of Walid Salem you need to justify where the part is in the &#8220;reliance of the traveller&#8221; that says that you can go into someone&#8217;s home and take their belongings. There are rules for defending your home that you have to stick to, but to state that they are both muslims would imply that they are both not overly good at it. Are either of these men defendable? It this a typical occurence for Muslims? Is this a typical occurence for any religion? Is this what happens when religions get westernised? </p>

<p>The whole point of this article is to show that Muslims can be criminals. Why be so quick to state their religion, how often do you see information stating that criminals are Christians? I don&#8217;t think I need to answer that really.</p>

<p>Religion should not be tied up with criminal activity, or tied up to every crime. The press are very quick to criticise and slur what they choose to, it&#8217;s probably best not to play into their hands with blogs, the overall perception of Muslims is not good, how about blogging about what good Muslims are doing?</p>
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		<title>By: highblack.com</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21783</link>
		<dc:creator>highblack.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days one does not know what is wrong with some people. In the case of Mrs. Ingis, i would have hoped that she be tried for murder, because in my opinion there is no excuse whatsoever for killing another human being. Maybe she needed someone to enforce to belief in unending hope for her son&#039;s condition. I am disappointed at her lenient sentence
.-= highblack.com´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://highblack.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=84:index&amp;catid=5:hiplife&quot;&gt;Index&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days one does not know what is wrong with some people. In the case of Mrs. Ingis, i would have hoped that she be tried for murder, because in my opinion there is no excuse whatsoever for killing another human being. Maybe she needed someone to enforce to belief in unending hope for her son&#8217;s condition. I am disappointed at her lenient sentence
.-= highblack.com´s last blog ..<a href="http://highblack.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=84:index&amp;catid=5:hiplife">Index</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21765</link>
		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting aspect of Mrs. Inglis&#039;s case is that she seems to have been much more pessimistic about her son&#039;s condition than his clinical staff. Usually family and friends imagine improvement and awareness that medical professionals don&#039;t see. That makes  her psychological condition worth examining more closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting aspect of Mrs. Inglis&#8217;s case is that she seems to have been much more pessimistic about her son&#8217;s condition than his clinical staff. Usually family and friends imagine improvement and awareness that medical professionals don&#8217;t see. That makes  her psychological condition worth examining more closely.</p>
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		<title>By: Safiya Outlines</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21675</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiya Outlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam Alaikum,

I agree that Frances Inglis should have been convicted of murder. It was a premeditated act and the &#039;love&#039; excuse does not wash. 

As for the Munir Hussain case, conviction is one thing, imprisonment is another. I don&#039;t think either men deserve to be in prison.
.-= Safiya Outlines´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/back-from-the-s-a-r/&quot;&gt;Back From the S.A.R&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Alaikum,</p>

<p>I agree that Frances Inglis should have been convicted of murder. It was a premeditated act and the &#8216;love&#8217; excuse does not wash. </p>

<p>As for the Munir Hussain case, conviction is one thing, imprisonment is another. I don&#8217;t think either men deserve to be in prison.
.-= Safiya Outlines´s last blog ..<a href="http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/back-from-the-s-a-r/">Back From the S.A.R</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Hayley</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/01/21/on_mercy#comment-21673</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post, a little heartbreaking too. Murdering someone is very different to Euthanasia, as awful as it must have been, she did not have that right.
.-= Hayley´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rellacafa/BOzk/~3/ZB1yVRMWaPQ/&quot;&gt;A (Hopefully) Short Rollercoaster Ride&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post, a little heartbreaking too. Murdering someone is very different to Euthanasia, as awful as it must have been, she did not have that right.
.-= Hayley´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rellacafa/BOzk/~3/ZB1yVRMWaPQ/">A (Hopefully) Short Rollercoaster Ride</a> =-.</p>
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