Taj Hargey launches fresh anti-Islam stunt

Taj Hargey is no stranger to long-time readers of this site: he is notorious for his anti-Shari’ah publicity stunts and for being able and willing to come out and attack Muslims in the press, first of all on the BBC’s Panorama in 2005 and since then mostly in the Times. Now, his so-called Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford has got some publicity (in the Oxford Times, albeit appearing on their website for anyone to read) for holding marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men, which is unlawful by consensus in Islamic law.

The article claims:

Dr Taj Hargey, chairman of the Muslim Education Centre of Oxford, said he had performed about 36 marriages in the past two years between Muslim women and non-Muslim men.

More imams are happy to marry Muslim men to non-Muslim women.

Couples from Spain, Germany, Sweden, Ireland, France and Norway have all come to Dr Hargey after failing to find someone locally prepared to carry out the service.

Most had spent months looking for an imam, and many found Dr Hargey after contacting American Muslim leaders via the Internet.

Dr Hargey, who believes he is the only imam in the UK who openly performs the mixed marriages, said: “We do it because there is no prohibition in the Koran.

“Islam allows Muslim men to marry non-Muslim women and such marriages are common, but I am one of the only people who will do it the other way round.”

Such marriages are actually not all that common, and certainly most Muslim men marry Muslim women. In fact, their usual choice is much narrower in many families; they want their children to marry spouses from the village back home, or the same caste, and inter-racial marriages among Muslims are probably not that common in large sections of the Asian Muslim community in the UK (among converts, it’s absolutely normal). Where Muslim men have married non-Muslim women, it has often proved to be a recipe for conflict as the man might well expect things of her that a husband from the same culture might not. There have also been numerous abductions of children of such marriages, often to countries which won’t return the children. Such marriages are, in my view, ill-advised for both parties. They were permitted because traditional Christian and Muslim values in the Middle East are, or were, similar. That isn’t the case in a Europe where Christianity is increasingly, where it’s held to at all, a matter of identity. Shared beliefs and values are, in my view, essential to maintain a happy marriage.

Hargey is a well-known proponent of “Qur’anic Islam”, but much as “it’s not in the Qur’an” doesn’t mean it’s not perfectly valid in Islam, the prohibition on Muslim women marrying outside the faith is definitely in the Qur’an, as the section which permits Muslim men to marry Christian or Jewish women specifically instructs women to marry Muslim men. So, Hargey’s “Qur’anic” emphasis is proved to be just an excuse; his real agenda is to erase any aspect of Islam which Europeans might not like, meaning that Islam is reduced to a mere “culture” consisting of names, stories and food. However, Islam is not conferred on the basis of a Muslim name and a taste for couscous or biryani, but on belief, affirmation and practice. What Hargey preaches is not Islam and Muslims have never taken it seriously.

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  • http://cosmiccook.blogspot.com/ Cosmic Cook

    I can’t believe he is coming out with such baqwas (nonsense). People of his kind are best ignored, because all they want is publicity. .-= Cosmic Cook´s last blog ..Cheap Books =-.

  • Abdullah

    That article is from June last year. I wonder how many more people he has ‘married’ since then!? They are simply not valid, and you will be hard pressed to find many Muslims in the world who would agree that they are.

  • Simon Bailey

    Surely you can’t help who you fall in love with?

    What is the other option, they renounce their faith to marry? At the end of the day more people are staying Muslims this way.

    If religion were to cast out every person that didn’t follow 100% of the rules/guidelines, then faith would soon become a thing of the past.

  • ali

    I agree with with Cosmic Cook above, this is but another publicity stunt by Hargey. We live in times were his ilk are flavour of the month and getting cash thrown at them from all quarters. Since 9/11 a cottage industry of reformists, repenting radicals and “experts” on Islam have come out of the woodwork to feed the medias appetite for all things anti-islam. He is simply milking it for what he can. What he says is for the western audience. We all know that his views will never influence orthdox Islam and so does he.

    He’s probably hoping for a Rushdie style fatwa so that his stock increases. Best thing to do is not give extremists like Hargey the oxygen that they crave (where have I heard that before?!).

    P.S. I heard Hargey was from a Qadiani background - which would explain an awful lot.

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,

    Ali: Taj Hargey isn’t himself a Qadiani, but I’ve been informed that the Hargeys are a well-known Qadiani family in South Africa.

    Of course, the Pope isn’t a Qadiani either; it doesn’t make him a Muslim any more than it makes Taj Hargey a Muslim.

  • http://www.bayyinat.org.uk/cv2.htm Yakoub

    There is a Muslim/Christian Marriage group in Britain. They have a small website which includes contact details: http://www.mcmarriage.org.uk/index.html - there is also a list of links: Taj’s isn’t on there, but the MCB is.

  • Tia

    Why is this being labelled as a “fresh anti-Islam stunt” when the article was written in June? And who can blame these Muslim women for hooking up with non-Muslim men when most of the decent, functional, attractive Muslim guys with steady jobs are already taken?

  • Umm Abdullah

    Why are muslims wasting theie time on this man??? His views and opinions are just that ‘views and opinions, not from islam. Allahu mustah’an, he’s getting enough publicity from the media and non-muslims, now the muslims are giving in to his nuisance too. All he talks about is the quran says this and the quran says that…but yet I’m not getting anything but his interpretations. He is not a scholar, maybe in oxford, but he is not one of the scholars who are the inheritors of true knowledge. May Allah protect us from these people who are only here to cause fitnah and confusion. The religion of islam is complete and has been perfected by Allah, Muhammed ibn Abdullah (sal’lallahu alyahi wa salam)is the final prohpet and our guidance is in his way.

  • Martin Sinclair

    What’s in a name? Do you really suppose that Allah looks at people on judgement day and says “you called yourself a Muslim and led a bad life so in you come you come to paradise, you called yourself a Christian/atheist/pagan and led a good life so it’s the fire for you,” No, of course He doesn’t.Forget the labels look into your own heart, are you serving God/good/your neighbour/the stranger as well as you can? are you studying scripture? are you stopping to consider your effect on the planet? Some of you seem to think you know what Islam means and Taj doesn’t. Let me tell you something - Islam like life is what you make it. If Taj sincerely and honestly believes what he says is Islam then he is just as entitled as you are to say that it is. Anyone can say they are the true inheritor of a tradition. The fact is only God knows

  • LeedsLad

    The Shaytan refused to bow down to Adam, not because he rejected Allah but because of superiority complex. When Muslims consider themselves better than “non-believers” who probably done more to advance and protect Allah’s people, is when we turn Islam into the religion of the Shaytan. This is the opportunity bad Muslims see and exploit to our detriment. Instead of Peace, we ended up with the bestiality of the devil.

    Muslim women not marrying “non-believers” is in the Quran, but it does not apply in today’s world when Muslims are not subjected to threats of extermination. What was more important was the community aspect of that verse since they are held together by women. Also, the same chapter advices Muslim alcoholics to be married to other Muslim alcoholics. How many Muslims adhere to that?

  • Martin Sinclair

    Well said Leedslad

  • Muslim

    “Muslim women not marrying “non-believers” is in the Quran, but it does not apply in today’s world when Muslims are not subjected to threats of extermination.”

    Are you serious? Bosnia, Gujurat , Kosovo.

    You fail to understand that Muslims men or women marrying non-Muslims will mean there wont be any Muslims left -since the kids of such unions are rarely Muslims.

    ” Also, the same chapter advices Muslim alcoholics to be married to other Muslim alcoholics. How many Muslims adhere to that?”

    Which chapter is that ?!??! Kindly quote

  • Thersites

    You fail to understand that Muslims men or women marrying non-Muslims will mean there wont be any Muslims left -since the kids of such unions are rarely Muslims.
    Surely that is unlikely, Muslim, if the claim that islam is the natural religion of mankind is true. In that case, such children, if they are given the choice, would surely naturally become muslims. In fact, historically, it was a condition of nonmuslim women marrying muslim men that the children were raised as muslims and nonmuslim men who married muslim women had to become muslims, nominally at least. It helped to spread and establish islam effectively in its early days. The roman catholic church enforced a policy that all children of mixed marriages must be raised as roman catholics with remarkable successin some countries, as the diminution in the protestant population of the Irish Republic between 1922 and now shows, so there is no reason to think your fears are valid. Muslims have adapted similar attitudes if necessary- in Poland the tiny Tatar-descended community has to marry out-usually to roman catholics- and the usual practise is that boys are raised in one religion, girls in the other. However, religious identity is probably based on national identification rather than actual belief there.

    The main reason muslims are reluctant to marry nonmuslims is simple: the quran forbids it and- as with other aspects of the quran- they think that if people decide that one part of the quran no longer applies it becomes easier to decide other parts no longer apply, and the less immediate application the quran’s doctrines have, the less likely people are to believeit is the exact and literal word of god. They are right, too. Unlike christianity or judaism which allow a lot more room for metaphorical meanings and non-literal truths, the quran has to be taken whole or effectively rejected.

  • Umm Abdullah

    “Muslim women not marrying “non-believers” is in the Quran, but it does not apply in today’s world when Muslims are not subjected to threats of extermination.” (LeedsLad)

    Its funny how you say it does not apply in todays world…Allah laid the laws and rulings of this perfect religion called Islam (note perfect: as in it needs no change) not so we can say centuries later ‘oh it doesnt apply to us we live in different times/different society etc…This is merely an excuse muslims use (as we know we are all human and thus are not perfect, so therefore make mistakes/follow our lusts and desires). However Allah is aware of this, thats why He is The Most Merciful and therefore reminds us time and time again to repent. So please instead of saying it does not apply in our times, just admit you do not want to do it..dont use this lame excuse.

    And to the comment Martin made, well the answer to your question is divided in to parts, firstly Allah has told us Islam will only be accepted in the Qur’an, and therefore when referring to the beleivers Allah is referring to the Muslims. However, as for the second part of thr answer, no that does not mean all muslims or those who call themselves muslims shall be entered into paradise. As we have duties towards Allah and this part of our purpose of creation to fulfill these religious obligations, and not necessarily carried out by all muslims. Therefore it is uopn Allah to judge them, whether they shall enter paradise or hell.

  • LeedsLad

    @Umm Abdullah, you are welcomed to join Osama Bin Laden in the caves just to keep up with the appearance of Islam as it was. Rather than reading text, please stick to the context which they were revealed.

    If Allah is so omnipotent and omnipresent, why did he need an alleged illiterate like Mohamed pbuh to carry his message and not himself/herself. Is Allah that lame?

    There are reasons why hope and credibility is important in a religion, but I think it is too much for your brain. Just remember that Shaitan Iblis is the devil we know because he considered himself superior to Adam and Eve. Sadly, it is these Shaitans who invoke racist an bigoted views in the name of Islam. Just as one person has prejudice against “infidels”, he/she will also be carrying similar hatred for others whether Jamaican or Bangladeshi because they are all Allah’s people. The racist has beef with Allah and not with people, so may Allah help these misguided Muslims and show them Rahma.

  • Martin Sinclair

    Fair point Umm Abdullah about only Muslims being accepted in the Qur’an, but no one can define what a “Muslim” is. Of course, there are 1.6 billion self-ascribed “Muslims” in the world but that fact means nothing when it comes.The Qur’an instructs readers to think and reflect time and again to judgement day.It also often says that Allah makes all, He must in some way be responsible for the spirtual/religious/moral viewpoints of countless millions of people who are not “Muslims” through no fault of their own - it is only providence that has made me interested in Islam for example - none of my friends or family are, quite the opposite.I believe that Allah has made many religious points of view therefore He looks into everyone’s heart on judgement day, which in my view is a metaphor anyway,takes into account their individual circumstances and sincerity (“He is closer to you than your jugular vein”) and then He weighs your deeds but His decision and your fate is an unfathomable mystery as indeed is Allah Himself,even with His 99 names. Anyway this is what I think.

  • LeedsLad

    As Mohamed pbuh once said as reported by Bukhari: “Whoever believes in Allah and the last day should speak good words or remain silent.”

    People beleive in God by instincts whether a human need or not, and also that the majority believe there will be some sort of judging peoples deeds after death including those Buddhists and Hindus. But things have gotten so weird now we see people claiming to be Muslims yet contradicting the spirit of Islam.

    What I found even worse is that the Muslim is suppose to seek truth and speak upon only essential matters, yet today’s Muslims waste too much of their time over frivolous issues about clothing, hygiene and conspiracy theories.

  • LeedsLad

    MR, I allow you to indulge yourself in conspiracy theories since your country and people are protected by nuclear and space technologies. You should do as you please with your spare time.

    However, Muslims are technically naked and stuck with bow and arrows. Muslims will serve themselves much better working hard to improve themselves by accepting the reality on the grounds to get out of this hellish future where poverty and violence will become the norm if it continues as it is.

  • M Risbrook

    Give me a good reason why anybody should accept the official line on 9/11, especially considering that the US government and other ptb refuse to answer certain questions?

  • M Risbrook

    MR, I allow you to indulge yourself in conspiracy theories since your country and people are protected by nuclear and space technologies. You should do as you please with your spare time.

    The whole of Europe or the United States could not win a war with China. It is the new superpower nation and the biggest threat to the west.

    However, Muslims are technically naked and stuck with bow and arrows. Muslims will serve themselves much better working hard to improve themselves by accepting the reality on the grounds to get out of this hellish future where poverty and violence will become the norm if it continues as it is.

    Muslim nations only have themselves to blame that they missed out on the industrial revolution. History has shown that the victors in war are usually the side that has the better weapons. Many nations and movements have been defeated because their weapons were inferior to those of their opponents. Islam may well suffer the same fate.

    The Gulf states are swimming in money but do not spend it on building an industrial base with a military industrial complex, or providing the younger generation with the education and training required for advanced industry. They just rely on expats (like myself) for jobs requiring technical knowledge whilst children are taught little more than a primary school education and lots and lots of religious theology. The only Muslim nation building an industrial base and training its younger generation in science and engineering is Iran.

  • LeedsLad

    You being a typical whiteman is still seeking opportunities and threats even if its china and its duck technology:

    Oasis - Rubberduckzilla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tpMcyda86I&feature=related

    Yes, Iran does invest in research even attempting to build a rival to intel chips. They are a tiny minority who should be supported, but sadly the neighbouring countries are currently hosting strange friends.

  • M Risbrook

    I wouldn’t underestimate the military firepower of China if I were you. They could quite easily blast every other nation off the face of the earth with ease. China may be under the radar as far as Joe Public in Britain is concerned, but so was Islam just a mere ten years ago.

    Iranian science and engineering industries put those in the UK to shame. I am well aware of the Zionist puppet governments ruling most Arab states.

  • Thersites

    Give me a good reason why anybody should accept the official line on 9/11, especially considering that the US government and other ptb refuse to answer certain questions?
    Which questions?

  • M Risbrook

    Thersites

    Show a bit of initiative and find out for your self.

  • Thersites

    That’s what I’m doing. It’s impossible to know which non-answers you think matter significant unless you say what they are.

  • M Risbrook

    I’m interested in knowing if there are any committed Zionists who reject the official line on 9/11.

    At the moment the official line vs alternatives argument is very much political football rather than an unbiased and impartial investigation into what really happened.

  • Thersites

    Well, as you aren’t willing to say what you think is “the official line on 9/11” or what you mean by “committed Zionists” or what alternatives you think worth examination you probably won’t get very far.

  • M Risbrook

    Thersites

    I shouldn’t have to spoon feed you like a baby.

  • LeedsLad

    If you want to see how wack conspiracy people are, google the Polish crash of late.

  • ash

    Give me a good reason why anybody should accept the official line on 9/11, especially considering that the US government and other ptb refuse to answer certain questions? Which questions? why did wtc 7 collapes when nothing hit it? why was there no visible plane debris at the pentagon? why did condy rice warn willie brown (mayor) not to fly on 9/11? how could passengers m,ake phone calls fromplanes at that height when the technology was only made 3 years later? why did first responders capture and report bombs in the basement? why was there molten metal 3 days after? thermite maybe? how did jet fuel melt steel? how did mohammad atta’s passport remain in tact when it would have been in the plane that hit? why are 11 of the 19 hijackers still alive?

    just a few there..

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  • Mrs Grimble

    Ash: Pages and pages of links and resources that answer all your questions about 9/11 That is, if you want to read facts and not fantasy.

  • Mighty Rubble

    He preaches peace, tolerance and understanding. He also rejects jihadism and Islamic supremacism. He preaches adapting to host non-Muslim cultures and rejects fanaticism and terrorism. So, you’re saying he doesn’t preach Islam, eh?

  • Mighty Rubble

    Good point. I don’t believe in god but I’ve always said, if a person’s religion helps them to be a good person, then I’m not against it. I don’t need a god to try to be a good person, but maybe others do, and I’m ok with that. But what I can’t understand is why people get hung up on dogma and rules rather than focusing on something that all abrahamic relgions seem to have always agreed on, which is you’re supposed to do good things in life.

  • Mighty Rubble

    Islam should be judged on its merits, not on some desert bedouin’s wild claims 14 centuries ago. Muhammad invented Islam, that’s clear, and it’s far from perfect. It’s not because the guy who invented it claimed it was perfect that you should believe him. Judge it on its true merits, then it should be pretty clear it’s a long way from perfect.

  • Mighty Rubble

    There’s about 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet and you’re worried about missing out on a few couples’ kids???