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	<title>Comments on: The differences between the Inglis and Gilderdale murder cases</title>
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		<title>By: Ricky Buchanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS, if you installed the &quot;subscribe to comments&quot; plugin it would be much easier for users to see any replies you make!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, if you installed the &#8220;subscribe to comments&#8221; plugin it would be much easier for users to see any replies you make!
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		<title>By: Ricky Buchanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments on my Dreamwidth blog. I was a close friend of Lynne&#039;s and had actually read the post that you referenced - about wanting to die - at the time she originally posted it. So I have been following the case as closely as I can cope with doing. I feel so very very sorry for Kaye, for everything she went through - looking after Lynne, what must have been a hellish decision to help Lynne die, and then this year of trauma after losing her child. Kaye&#039;s still suffering and that suffering won&#039;t ever end - although at least hopefully now she&#039;ll have some small measure of closure as the threat of being jailled has been removed.

The things that happened to Lynne are beyond horriffic, some of them I knew about and others I wasn&#039;t aware of until they were revealed in court. I am bedridden with whatever it is that&#039;s wrong with me (I&#039;ve had a diagnosis of CFS/ME for most of the time I&#039;ve been sick, but there are other possibilities that have been raised and not ruled out) but I&#039;m not nearly as sick as Lynne was and I hope dearly that I never am. And yes, if I was ever in Lynne&#039;s situation then I hope my own family would assist me as hers helped her, and I hope like hell that they wouldn&#039;t get punished.

The whole issue of assisted suicide, especially for those like Lynne whose physical disabilities make them incapable of commiting suicide without assistance, is very complicated and I don&#039;t know that in an imperfect world it can be anything but complicated. I wish it were different.

r
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments on my Dreamwidth blog. I was a close friend of Lynne&#8217;s and had actually read the post that you referenced - about wanting to die - at the time she originally posted it. So I have been following the case as closely as I can cope with doing. I feel so very very sorry for Kaye, for everything she went through - looking after Lynne, what must have been a hellish decision to help Lynne die, and then this year of trauma after losing her child. Kaye&#8217;s still suffering and that suffering won&#8217;t ever end - although at least hopefully now she&#8217;ll have some small measure of closure as the threat of being jailled has been removed.</p>

<p>The things that happened to Lynne are beyond horriffic, some of them I knew about and others I wasn&#8217;t aware of until they were revealed in court. I am bedridden with whatever it is that&#8217;s wrong with me (I&#8217;ve had a diagnosis of CFS/ME for most of the time I&#8217;ve been sick, but there are other possibilities that have been raised and not ruled out) but I&#8217;m not nearly as sick as Lynne was and I hope dearly that I never am. And yes, if I was ever in Lynne&#8217;s situation then I hope my own family would assist me as hers helped her, and I hope like hell that they wouldn&#8217;t get punished.</p>

<p>The whole issue of assisted suicide, especially for those like Lynne whose physical disabilities make them incapable of commiting suicide without assistance, is very complicated and I don&#8217;t know that in an imperfect world it can be anything but complicated. I wish it were different.</p>

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		<title>By: Safiyyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safiyyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaams Yusuf:

I have a friend with CFS and she had a heck of a time getting a diagnosis, and getting anyone to validate her symptoms.  Even her insurance company didn&#039;t want to pay for meds :(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaams Yusuf:</p>

<p>I have a friend with CFS and she had a heck of a time getting a diagnosis, and getting anyone to validate her symptoms.  Even her insurance company didn&#8217;t want to pay for meds :(
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		<title>By: Thersites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thersites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both M.E. and C.F.S. are diagnosed from patients&#039; behaviour rather than the presenceof pathogens. Which is diagnosed- or whether another term is used- probably depends on the diagnosers&#039; medical and cultural backgrounds and attitudes. Psychological conditions are every bit as real and physical as other medical conditions.
In Mrs. Inglis&#039;s case the fact that his doctors thought her son had a good chance of recovery or improvement probably affected the jury&#039;s attitude. As I said elsewhere, it is usually the families  and friends of disabled people who see often illusory reasons for hope, while professional carers are realistic and pessimistic. Perhaps Mrs Inglis&#039;s experiences working with profoundly disabled people affected her expectations for the worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both M.E. and C.F.S. are diagnosed from patients&#8217; behaviour rather than the presenceof pathogens. Which is diagnosed- or whether another term is used- probably depends on the diagnosers&#8217; medical and cultural backgrounds and attitudes. Psychological conditions are every bit as real and physical as other medical conditions.
In Mrs. Inglis&#8217;s case the fact that his doctors thought her son had a good chance of recovery or improvement probably affected the jury&#8217;s attitude. As I said elsewhere, it is usually the families  and friends of disabled people who see often illusory reasons for hope, while professional carers are realistic and pessimistic. Perhaps Mrs Inglis&#8217;s experiences working with profoundly disabled people affected her expectations for the worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Safiya Outlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safiya Outlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam Alaikum,

Computer ate previous comment, so I&#039;ll be brief and say that I agree with the premise of your post, the two cases are very different. 

M.E is not linked to CFS though, as sufferers are keen to point out.

I&#039;m really enjoying your foray into disability issues.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Alaikum,</p>

<p>Computer ate previous comment, so I&#8217;ll be brief and say that I agree with the premise of your post, the two cases are very different.</p>

<p>M.E is not linked to CFS though, as sufferers are keen to point out.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying your foray into disability issues.
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