Let me correct some of your asinine assertions to which I will blame on your having a brain the size of a pea that is if your aforementioned brain has any capacity to appreciate nuance.

1) I have never had a drop of alcohol in my life and never intend to so there is just as much risk of you crying over a pint as me, I suspect that’s an experience you have.

2) A Muslim is not necessarily only someone who prays 5 times a day as you assert. A Muslim is someone who believes in the literal truth of the shahadah, granted if you do not pray 5 times a day that you’re probably not a good Muslim but a Muslim nonetheless.

3) Thirdly do not associate me with Alibhai Brown and Quilliam I actually deplore them and their opinion on this matter in actual fact not that facts seem to matter to you not when you have silly assumptions.

4) I could not give a tu’penny damn about your little tale at whatever polytechnic lowered its standards to let you in, where you met “one of my lots”. I am not stupid enough to take general points about whole swathes of people based on my perceptions of on isolated event in some pub somewhere, try to appreciate a bit of nuance.

5) I don’t need to change my religion as I do not have any religion I just know and cherish the atmosphere and culture from which I was born, nurtured and raised upon.

6) You are wrong there is and can be a cultural Muslim and it varies between people but I would define it as follows. Someone who is born to Muslim ancestry and actually celebrates, appreciates and cherishes that heritage and does not belittle or disassociate themselves from it. Someone who loves fellow people who also identifies with people, who call themselves Muslim, hurts when they are hurt and will do anything in their power to alleviate that suffering. Someone who shares the dreams and aspiration of those billion people in their search for justice and freedom from both internal and external oppression. A person who appreciates the beauty and goodness in Islam and does not automatically call it evil because they no longer have any faith. Someone who appreciates that theological believer must be allowed to practise their beliefs as they interpret their faith and I have no right to tell them which is the truth.

You see Khan ultimately there are Cultural Muslims because we self identify as that and actually there are a growing numbers of us and we are skilled and intelligent. We would be a powerful asset in ensuring the prosperity of our community its traditions and faiths BUT only if sour hearted people like you don’t try to pour scorn and hatred on us at every turn, thereby ensuring an enmity and resentment forms and they totally leave and thereby weakening an already weak community. But I don’t suppose any of this will penetrate the poison that has infected your synapses. But whether you like it or not we are and we will call ourselves what we like. Please don’t suppose for a minute you speak for everyone because other people recognise we are your sons and daughters and they treat us accordingly.

Although I am learning the guitar having hit 30, it is no mistake for a Quran muhafidh like me to notice the people mostly at risk are those who just don’t measure up to Islam. Islam has standards, and it is not a simple case of putting the clothes, shouting profanities like “kill infidels” to impress some crazy girls, or growing beards.

If Mohamed PBUH was alive today in the UK, he would have advised Muslims to not grow their beards as only such beards are common with tramps. Now explain the spirit of such Hadith in this common sense, and you get a riot of “Infidel” from all directions.

The ideas behind the prayers is for man to respect the need to have rituals, and it is not to downgrade other Muslims or non-Muslims who do not pray or are not aware of Islam. The Muslim is not special in Allah’s book, and no better than his creations including the pigs, dogs, and monkeys.

During the early days of Islam, there were men who would utter the Ashahada at the point of death(mostly when a Muslim was about to hand out a deadly strike to him/her having been in a violent dual). Obviously, if you were the one trying to disable your opponent you would kill them, and many Muslims did just that. However, they brought this up with the prophet PBUH suspecting foxiness on the part of those who uttered the Ashahada only for the prophet to curse them and asked “have you opened their heart”(to find out whether it was true or not).

Now compare the prophets spirit to these “Muslims” who cheaply throw “infidel” word at anybody they don’t like including the rival grocery shop from next door. What did “infidel” do to you to deserve the needless contempt. Isn’t it all counter productive to peace; Islam.

If the prophet was that much concerned about the enemy’s welfare and their Ashahada to join Islam, what do you want from the wayward persons who choose to lead a life unaccustomed to the Islamic rituals?

The world is full of alcohol drinkers, and you need to keep these alcohol drinking Muslims to fight the other drunkards. I will advocate the same to unleash the Muslimahs to counter terrorists like that Melanie Philips. Viva Alcoholics Jihad!

You could at least reference me in the bushy beard comment :-)How very predictabele. I have a great deal of sympathy to what your saying but it can do without the juvenile remarks.

Khan

Your a nasty piece of work so what if he is a cultural muslim, so am I

My beef is with time wasters who cannot leave kids alone unless they molest them with their bushy beards. Look at this stupid and tell me if that is the government’s mistake or the people he was hanging around with: Student says ‘slaughter the Jews’ remark was misunderstood http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/student-says-slaughter-the-jews-remark-was-misunderstood-1897150.html

20 odd years of investment went into that kid by his parents, and look at the result created with his own hands. Did Sheikh Bushy made him do it, or Rabbi Zionmyopia?

Chill out ppl, and clean our houses first.

@leedslad- Can i have some of the crack you are smoking.

Ladies and gentleman I proudly announce to you open season on all muslims!

Listen folks whatever you do,short of changing your religion, its not going to be enough. So lets not beat about the proverbial bush. And if you agree with the notion of a ‘war’ on terror ,without even going into whether its staged or not (which it is), then you have lost the argument before it has even started. Muslims need to be proactive in their response and never reply to the usual suspect questions with the naff ‘BUT’.

Listed below are a few points that might be of help.

1) terrorism is not confined to individuals. States can and DO commit terrorism

2) Hiroshima. Probably the single biggest act of terrorism to date in human history and definitely the most killed in a single instance. Even if you believe the yanks were responding to pearl harbour it still doesnt justify the killing of civilians

3) Nobody trusts politicians so why trust them on security matters. They lie about everything else then why believe them on security matters. Hard to square that circle.

4) Al-qaeda is nothing more than a cia list/database of various afghan mujahideen.

5) Offshore banksters are robbing everyone regardless of creed and they are giving you a golden shower while they do it.

6) If they can torture children, which they admit to, then why should they care about anyone else.

Anymore crass generalisations you want to throw in? You missed out mentioning bushy beards and walking ink blot. Glad I could be of service.

What I do know is that Muslims sleep walk into radicalising themselves and their youth rather than protect children from such Fitnah. That Al-Jazeera has also added to our problems with its constant disturbing pieces of imagery and FOX News like shouting matches.

How come all these bombers are from upper classes who binge on TV and coffee houses?

There is too many issues facing us, yet these little kids in universities who were suppose to study are falling into the hands of people stuck with only one ME issue. Muslims or not, these “societies” are sabotaging our future and I want to attack them like the infidels.

If you are joining them to meet a nice Muslimah, forget them cos its too late by then unless you want to fight some villager who was promised a visa to the UK.