1. I note you have no reply to the Hadith nor the statements of ‘one Khalifah only’ made by major Maturidis - all contradicted by Qadri.

2. Instead you have the cheek just to fire back with whom I referred to. Well, FYI, I never said I agreed with them in everything what they say; I was rather making the point that - if we are going to go back to the original sources of the Shariah (like Qadri claims) - then why not compare their evidences to Qadri’s?

3. Even if they disagree, why cannot it be treated as a mujtahad feeh mas’alah in Jihad?

I expect no legitimate answer from you, waqas amin.

Brother indigo jo, you see how Shaykh Tahir has got to the nerves of these extremists; their BANI ISLAM (tribal) mentality is exposed and their obsession with matters that simply do not concern them, matter such as a global caliphate, has shown through.

Here is a description of some of the scholars (may Allah have mercy on them and give them guidance) these extremists are obsessed with (these names were provided by brother Harris Hammam above which you yourself can verify):

Hamood al-Shu’aybi: Sheikh Hamoud al Aqla al Shuebi was a Saudi born Islamic cleric.

He has been seen as a radical element since at least 1994 when he was quoted by Osama bin Laden in his Open Letter to Shaykh Bin Baz on the Invalidity of his Fatwa on Peace with the Jews, and several weeks after the Invasion of Afghanistan.

He drew condemnation from the United States for making comments supporting the 9/11 attacks, and encouraging Muslims to fight Christians and Jews in “Muslim lands”. He issued a Fatwa praising the Taliban for creating “the only country in the world in which there are no man-made laws

Abdullah Azzam Abdullah Yusuf Azzam (1941 As-ba’ah Al-Hartiyeh, British Mandate of Palestine – November 24, 1989, Peshawar, Pakistan) (Arabic عبدالله عزام) was a highly influential Palestinian Sunni Islamic scholar and theologian, who preached in favor of defensive jihad by Muslims to help the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviet invaders. He raised funds, recruited, and organized the international Islamic volunteer effort of Afghan Arabs through the 1980s, and emphasised the political ascension of Islamism.

He is also known as a teacher and mentor of Osama bin Laden, who persuaded bin Laden to come to Afghanistan and help the jihad, though the two differed as to where the next front in global jihad should be after the withdrawal of the Soviets from Afghanistan. He was killed by a bomb blast on November 24, 1989

Abdullah al-Rashud Abdullah Rashud, 37, was one of the last three Saudis at large out of a list of 26 senior Al Qaeda militants wanted by Riyadh for a wave of deadly attacks in the country.

Ali al-Khudhayr heikh Ali al-Khudair (Arabic: شيخ علي الخُضير‎, Sheikh ’Ali al-Khuḍayr), also known as Sheikh Ali bin al-Khudair, or Ali bin al-Khudayr is a well-known and influential Saudi Arabian cleric and scholar. He was arrested in 2003. According to Michael Scott Doran in Foreign Affairs [1] Sheikh Ali al-Khudair “is known as a leader of the takfiri-jihadi stream of Islamic radicalism — that is, as someone quick to engage in takfir, the practice of proclaiming fellow Muslims guilty of apostasy (a crime punishable by death).”

Sheikh Ali al-Khudair had issued fatwas against several Saudi-Arabian thinkers, among them Turki al-Hamad, Mansour al-Naqeedan and Abdullah Abusamh declaring them as infidel.

Nasir al-Fahd: Until May 2003, al Qaeda did not have sufficient Islamic grounding on which to convincingly justify a WMD attack. In that month, however, a young Saudi cleric named Shaykh Nasir bin Hamid al-Fahd published “A Treatise on the Legal Status of Using Weapons of Mass Destruction Against Infidels.”

Shaykh al-Fahd concludes by addressing the issue of whether Muslims can kill other Muslims in pursuing jihad in God’s name. He says that, indeed, the lives of Muslims are considered sacred and there is no permission from God to wantonly kill another Muslim. But, al-Fahd maintains, “If we accept the argument unrestrictedly, we should entirely suspend jihad, for no infidel land is devoid of Muslims. As long as jihad has been commanded…and it can be carried out only in this way [i.e., with Muslims being killed in attacks by Muslims], it is permitted.” God allows this, al-Fahd explains, “so that the enemy cannot force us to abandon jihad by imprisoning a Muslim among them.” http://ianlivingston.com/threatmatrix/handbook/wmd_fatwa.htm

It is this kind of extremism that this fatwa speaks out against; once the English translations will be available it will remove these sideline justifications of terrorism.

I have no doubt that this is a moral victory for orthodox Islam, and the sunna of the Holy Prophet and the salaf as-salih; and within time the truth will prevail, inshallah!

Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri in Saheeh Muslim from the Prophet, ‘If two Khalifahs are appointed, then kill the last one of them’.

What is Qadri’s response to this?

Also, because Imam al-Maturidi is the highest theologian according to Qadri, what does he have to say about what the great Maturidi al-Taftaazaani said?: If objection is made, “Why is it not permissible to have sufficient men of power in different districts, and thus do away with the necessity of a general authority over all?” we reply that this only leads to disputes and quarrels which end in disorder both in religious and secular matters, as is to be seen at the present time.

Yet we saw Qadri proudly boast that he has found no Hadith [or authority] that establishes one Khilaafah for the Muslims!

Even if he didn’t find any explicit Hadith, the above Hadith indiectly proves it. Indirect evidence [i.e. twisting by Qadri] was used many a time by Qadri to prove his point in Westminster. Even if there was no Hadith, the fact that Maturidi theologians have agreed that there can only be one Khalifah proves that Qadri didn’t address his opposition’s arguments.

This method adopted by Qadri does not help Qadri’s cause.

The fact that were still so obsessed shows that Shaykh Qadri is most unique scholar of our time!

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Hz Sheikh Qadri held a hundreds of Ulemas and Mashaykh conference and one of the points everyone agreed to is that this is a conspiracy from foreign powers. The foreign powers invade places and the young join terrorists who are getting arms from those very foreign powers behind the scenes.

Yes many Muslims got shaheeded by the US in Iraq and Minhaj were part of anti-war work like all Muslims. But more Iraqis have now been killed by terrorists. The imam of Ghaus Paak Jilanis mosque has been shaheed by Shiites or Wahabis. Why are they doing that and calling themselves Muslims? Why don’t you condemn that? Are you supporting that or are you happy about Sunnis being ethnically clensed everywhere?

In Pakistan the US has probably only killed at most about a hundred ppl from drone attacks. But the Kharijis have killed thousands. They have ethnically clensed most of NWFP of Sunni Ulemas. They killed 150 Sunni Ulemas but the US killed none. They killed Hz Dr Sarfraz Naeemi and did a suicide bomb which shaheeded many Ulemas during a Meelad Shareed programme which is like a kafiri. Is that martydom or jahannam? It is jahannam of course because Ulemas are the ppl who protect and preserve Islam. So this is not martydom operation, it is a trip to Hell. So many so-called maulanas are not condenming it so someone needs to set the record straight. This is what Hz Sb has done. He is not scared of anyone and doesn’t need anyones protection as he said himself. All of the Ulemas from all maslaks are supporting him so he really doesn’t need anyone.

Tahir al-Qadri does not address such issues nor does he importantly address (or leaves out from his work) the state terrorism of the US or British who have unleashed illegal wars, sanctions, occupations etc where over million citizens have been killed - who is he afraid of, Allah or those who provide him sanctuary in the west?

To the blogger: Why don’t you delete this entire post and read the fatwa that is available in English first? You also need to find out some background information about what the terrorists have done in NWFP like how they have ethnically clensed the Sunnis from there. There are now nearly no aastaanas left with Mashaikhs. There have been 150 Sunni Ulemas killed by the Kharijis so far. Once you obtain this information, you’ll be in a good position to post a good a peice on the subject. The son of our Murshid, Hz Zia Ul Ummat, Hz Abul Hasanaat attended the janaazah of 4 Ulemas last year near the border with Afghanistan and is a Mujahid as a result of this.

If you understand Urdu you can get information about the attrocities commited there especially against the Sunnis from the speech of Hz Peer Abdul Haadi who is from Mardaan in the affected area.

after 9-11 polls showed that majority of public supported these people doing their torture too. so who has the real problem with extremism? Who are the ones who are really in need of a dodgy fatwa to help them control their ownselves?

And even though these people make me sick, the sell out muslims who go around licking their behinds and giving out dumb fatwas that put all the blame on muslims for terrorism make me even more sick.