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		<title>By: Tychy@ the Fringe: Only One Wing. &#171; Tychy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tychy@ the Fringe: Only One Wing. &#171; Tychy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the disorder amongst medical people. At one point the fairies even scold Ricky Gervais for his jokes about M.E. being the preserve of Western malingerers. To insist upon compassion for those suffering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] about the disorder amongst medical people. At one point the fairies even scold Ricky Gervais for his jokes about M.E. being the preserve of Western malingerers. To insist upon compassion for those suffering [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternative comedy began to avoid the old jokes that made victims of stereotypes. Now the victims have changed from mothers-in-law, Irish etc to ME and dyslexia sufferers, rape victims and other previously taboo subjects. Even God! On a tv show &quot;comedy roasting&quot; where comics make fun of the guest of honour, a female victim of child abuse was told she was so ugly she should be grateful that someone had sex with her. The audience was in hysterics.

Ricky Gervaise is showing his true colours now. He loves &quot;persuading&quot; a friend to allow himself to be tied up with sellotape and laughing hysterically while doing it. He even uses his appearance on Comic Relief to ridicule the programme&#039;s efforts and promote his latest dvd. People laugh because they think he&#039;s joking.

Sadly, so much tv now is devoted to ridiculing and humiliating the participants. Jerry Springer, Weakest Link, Big Brother etc. Let&#039;s have a &quot;secret camera&quot; show where comics are hauled up before TV bosses and told they are being banned from TV because of their offensive humour. 

School bullies pick on students who are &quot;different&quot;. Others join in so as not to be associated with the victim. Do you remember the insulting words? Fatty, skinny, beanpole, short\*\*\*, 4 eyes, pizzaface, braceface, badbreath and so on. Did you notice? We all fall in to one of those categories! So we may escape today but there&#039;s always tomorrow.

There&#039;s an old quotation from Nazi Germany. &quot;When they came for the Jews, I did nothing. When they came for the gypsies and the disabled, I did nothing. When they came for me, there was nobody left to help me.&quot;

It&#039;s time to educate the masses that tomorrow they could be on the receiving end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative comedy began to avoid the old jokes that made victims of stereotypes. Now the victims have changed from mothers-in-law, Irish etc to ME and dyslexia sufferers, rape victims and other previously taboo subjects. Even God! On a tv show &#8220;comedy roasting&#8221; where comics make fun of the guest of honour, a female victim of child abuse was told she was so ugly she should be grateful that someone had sex with her. The audience was in hysterics.</p>

<p>Ricky Gervaise is showing his true colours now. He loves &#8220;persuading&#8221; a friend to allow himself to be tied up with sellotape and laughing hysterically while doing it. He even uses his appearance on Comic Relief to ridicule the programme&#8217;s efforts and promote his latest dvd. People laugh because they think he&#8217;s joking.</p>

<p>Sadly, so much tv now is devoted to ridiculing and humiliating the participants. Jerry Springer, Weakest Link, Big Brother etc. Let&#8217;s have a &#8220;secret camera&#8221; show where comics are hauled up before TV bosses and told they are being banned from TV because of their offensive humour.</p>

<p>School bullies pick on students who are &#8220;different&#8221;. Others join in so as not to be associated with the victim. Do you remember the insulting words? Fatty, skinny, beanpole, short&#42;&#42;&#42;, 4 eyes, pizzaface, braceface, badbreath and so on. Did you notice? We all fall in to one of those categories! So we may escape today but there&#8217;s always tomorrow.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s an old quotation from Nazi Germany. &#8220;When they came for the Jews, I did nothing. When they came for the gypsies and the disabled, I did nothing. When they came for me, there was nobody left to help me.&#8221;</p>

<p>It&#8217;s time to educate the masses that tomorrow they could be on the receiving end.</p>
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		<title>By: phylis marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>phylis marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was shocked and angry when i watched Ricky Gervais on that video my Granson who is only seven has M E Ricky Gevais should be ashamed off himself and if that is the only way he can get his laughs he suouldent bother. He is just a sad person getting his kicks from other peoples sadness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked and angry when i watched Ricky Gervais on that video my Granson who is only seven has M E Ricky Gevais should be ashamed off himself and if that is the only way he can get his laughs he suouldent bother. He is just a sad person getting his kicks from other peoples sadness</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo Blogs &#8212; Me on the Late Show: transcript</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo Blogs &#8212; Me on the Late Show: transcript</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was part of a big tendency towards nasty comedy which made light of serious subjects like rape, and mentioned the incident in which Ricky Gervais caricatured ME sufferers as being people too lazy to go to work. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was part of a big tendency towards nasty comedy which made light of serious subjects like rape, and mentioned the incident in which Ricky Gervais caricatured ME sufferers as being people too lazy to go to work. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of liked Ricky Gervais but never a huge fan. I was horrified by the content in his live show but also by the amount of people who laughed at that joke. Shame on you.
I loved the trailer thought it was very thought provoking and moving. Hope to email it to my friends and family who don&#039;t always understand my illness. I&#039;m quite seveerly affected by M.E. I&#039;ve had it for about 6 years now.
Also another interesting point to bear in mind is that in the UK there are 250,000 people with M.E and about 90,000 people with MS. Guess which one of those illnesses has better awareness, funding, GP support etc. Yes the one with less sufferers. It&#039;s about time this changed.
Hugs to you all. Hazel xxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of liked Ricky Gervais but never a huge fan. I was horrified by the content in his live show but also by the amount of people who laughed at that joke. Shame on you.
I loved the trailer thought it was very thought provoking and moving. Hope to email it to my friends and family who don&#8217;t always understand my illness. I&#8217;m quite seveerly affected by M.E. I&#8217;ve had it for about 6 years now.
Also another interesting point to bear in mind is that in the UK there are 250,000 people with M.E and about 90,000 people with MS. Guess which one of those illnesses has better awareness, funding, GP support etc. Yes the one with less sufferers. It&#8217;s about time this changed.
Hugs to you all. Hazel xxx</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rellacafa,

The problem is that offensive comedy generally has become very popular here of late - mocking people with disabilities, people at the bottom socially, racist jokes, misogynistic jokes and so on.  Actually, there was a series called &quot;Little Britain&quot; in which a posh school product (male) played a &quot;chav&quot; character called Vicki Pollard and there was another routine in it about a man who pretended to be disabled, but got up and walked as soon as his carer&#039;s back was turned.  There&#039;s this &quot;lighten up cos it&#039;s only a joke&quot; culture.  We also have a very vicious popular press here (particularly the Sun and the Daily Mail) which I believe encourages this kind of thing.

Ricky Gervais&#039;s apology didn&#039;t cut it.  In fact, it just showed that he didn&#039;t get it, because it still indicates that he thinks ME is some sort of luxury westerners can afford and people in other countries can&#039;t.  If you get ill in a third world country, you or your family become even more impoverished, or you die.  We don&#039;t hear about it because ME itself is not as common as AIDS or malaria, but it does actually happen in Africa.  (It occurs in outbreaks as well as in individual cases, and there have been reported outbreaks in South Africa and Nigeria.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rellacafa,</p>

<p>The problem is that offensive comedy generally has become very popular here of late - mocking people with disabilities, people at the bottom socially, racist jokes, misogynistic jokes and so on.  Actually, there was a series called &#8220;Little Britain&#8221; in which a posh school product (male) played a &#8220;chav&#8221; character called Vicki Pollard and there was another routine in it about a man who pretended to be disabled, but got up and walked as soon as his carer&#8217;s back was turned.  There&#8217;s this &#8220;lighten up cos it&#8217;s only a joke&#8221; culture.  We also have a very vicious popular press here (particularly the Sun and the Daily Mail) which I believe encourages this kind of thing.</p>

<p>Ricky Gervais&#8217;s apology didn&#8217;t cut it.  In fact, it just showed that he didn&#8217;t get it, because it still indicates that he thinks ME is some sort of luxury westerners can afford and people in other countries can&#8217;t.  If you get ill in a third world country, you or your family become even more impoverished, or you die.  We don&#8217;t hear about it because ME itself is not as common as AIDS or malaria, but it does actually happen in Africa.  (It occurs in outbreaks as well as in individual cases, and there have been reported outbreaks in South Africa and Nigeria.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rellacafa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rellacafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand comedy that is taking the piss out of people who are struggling! I have always liked Ricky Gervais, but I had never seen this routine before and I think you were right when you said he&#039;s not that different to David Brent. 

One the of biggest problem sufferers of chronic diseases face is public awareness, even awareness within medical communities can be skewed and misinformed. Comedy that perpetuates stereotypes of illness makes me sick - I have written to Australian networks before regarding jokes made about people getting up out of wheelchairs to do things. Their ignorance simply perpetuated the myth that somebody in a wheelchair cannot walk at all - a lot of people can move but for whatever reason (mine is CRPS) cannot move far and require assistance, do we really deserve to be ridiculed for this? 

It is sad that comedians are still finding it necessary to pick on those less fortunate than them...even sadder when their audience doesn&#039;t seem to realise...I am glad to read that at least Gervais apologised for this!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand comedy that is taking the piss out of people who are struggling! I have always liked Ricky Gervais, but I had never seen this routine before and I think you were right when you said he&#8217;s not that different to David Brent.</p>

<p>One the of biggest problem sufferers of chronic diseases face is public awareness, even awareness within medical communities can be skewed and misinformed. Comedy that perpetuates stereotypes of illness makes me sick - I have written to Australian networks before regarding jokes made about people getting up out of wheelchairs to do things. Their ignorance simply perpetuated the myth that somebody in a wheelchair cannot walk at all - a lot of people can move but for whatever reason (mine is CRPS) cannot move far and require assistance, do we really deserve to be ridiculed for this?</p>

<p>It is sad that comedians are still finding it necessary to pick on those less fortunate than them&#8230;even sadder when their audience doesn&#8217;t seem to realise&#8230;I am glad to read that at least Gervais apologised for this!
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		<title>By: Umm Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umm Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walaykum Asalaam 

I&#039;ve had it since I was about 12 so about 16 years now, but with varying degrees of severity depending on certain factors such as stress, work/school/college and pregnancy. When I was a teenager my GP diagnosed me with it but said it was probably due to &#039;growing pains&#039; and I would grow out of it, more recently it has been blamed on having young children to run around after, &#039;probably not getting enough vitamins&#039; (though blood tests prove otherwise), and my weight. I&#039;m looking forward to when they blame it on being middle-aged and elderly lol. I had to leave a school I really loved (after leaving the first one due to bullying) because I was falling asleep in lessons; and unable to complete any coursework whatsoever as I was so exhausted. It peaked after I had my second child; as I not only had chronic tiredness but chronic muscle and joint pain as well, as well as almost being bent double with back pain, I found glucosamine supplements helped with that immensely despite me being extremely sceptical that they would, and seemed to have put paid to that aspect of things for good InshaAllaah. Still the actual fatigue and flu-like symptoms side of thing is still bad enough to have forced a move from a house (not the stairs!) to a flat with a lift to practically outside my front door. My last GP was Muslim and she was actively involved in one of the local masjids but she was the least sympathetic of all, after many visits she prescribed me counselling (?!) in the end because 1, she believe it to all be in my mind or 2, at best due to being disorganised and poor time management which if it was that I&#039;m not quite sure how conventional counselling would help anyway? I didn&#039;t used to make a song and dance about my illness; and in the past very few people knew I had it but I didn&#039;t need as much support then. I do often feel like I am being a moaner because I am made to feel that way SubhanAllaah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walaykum Asalaam</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve had it since I was about 12 so about 16 years now, but with varying degrees of severity depending on certain factors such as stress, work/school/college and pregnancy. When I was a teenager my GP diagnosed me with it but said it was probably due to &#8216;growing pains&#8217; and I would grow out of it, more recently it has been blamed on having young children to run around after, &#8216;probably not getting enough vitamins&#8217; (though blood tests prove otherwise), and my weight. I&#8217;m looking forward to when they blame it on being middle-aged and elderly lol. I had to leave a school I really loved (after leaving the first one due to bullying) because I was falling asleep in lessons; and unable to complete any coursework whatsoever as I was so exhausted. It peaked after I had my second child; as I not only had chronic tiredness but chronic muscle and joint pain as well, as well as almost being bent double with back pain, I found glucosamine supplements helped with that immensely despite me being extremely sceptical that they would, and seemed to have put paid to that aspect of things for good InshaAllaah. Still the actual fatigue and flu-like symptoms side of thing is still bad enough to have forced a move from a house (not the stairs!) to a flat with a lift to practically outside my front door. My last GP was Muslim and she was actively involved in one of the local masjids but she was the least sympathetic of all, after many visits she prescribed me counselling (?!) in the end because 1, she believe it to all be in my mind or 2, at best due to being disorganised and poor time management which if it was that I&#8217;m not quite sure how conventional counselling would help anyway? I didn&#8217;t used to make a song and dance about my illness; and in the past very few people knew I had it but I didn&#8217;t need as much support then. I do often feel like I am being a moaner because I am made to feel that way SubhanAllaah.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum sister, it&#039;s depressing that some of us Muslims are even further behind on this and would still treat someone with this condition as if they were just lazy or pretending. How long have you been ill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum sister, it&#8217;s depressing that some of us Muslims are even further behind on this and would still treat someone with this condition as if they were just lazy or pretending. How long have you been ill?</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umm Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have M.E. and even though its nowhere near as bad as many have it; it still severely limits my movements and quality of life. My previous doctor used to think if I lost weight; it would just go away; ignoring the fact that I put on weight due to not being able to be active; and when I was at the ideal weight for my height; my M.E. was considerably worse back then. On one occasion in the past; one locum GP tried to convince me that my M.E. was actually a form of clinical depression where one lacks adrenaline; she put me on an SNRI (like an SSRI but increases noradrenaline); I ended up feeling just as exhausted but in a state of constant agitation and panic. Sadly aside from comedians; I find prejudice from other quarters as well; particularly the Muslim community. I feel incredibly isolated because, aside from a couple of lovely friends who have made the effort to visit me despite it being an extreme difficulty to do so; my sisters in Islam seem to see my illness as all in my head; or even laziness and don&#039;t take the effort to come to visit me; despite visiting a sick person being not only rewardable in Islam; but according to some scholars; an obligation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have M.E. and even though its nowhere near as bad as many have it; it still severely limits my movements and quality of life. My previous doctor used to think if I lost weight; it would just go away; ignoring the fact that I put on weight due to not being able to be active; and when I was at the ideal weight for my height; my M.E. was considerably worse back then. On one occasion in the past; one locum GP tried to convince me that my M.E. was actually a form of clinical depression where one lacks adrenaline; she put me on an SNRI (like an SSRI but increases noradrenaline); I ended up feeling just as exhausted but in a state of constant agitation and panic. Sadly aside from comedians; I find prejudice from other quarters as well; particularly the Muslim community. I feel incredibly isolated because, aside from a couple of lovely friends who have made the effort to visit me despite it being an extreme difficulty to do so; my sisters in Islam seem to see my illness as all in my head; or even laziness and don&#8217;t take the effort to come to visit me; despite visiting a sick person being not only rewardable in Islam; but according to some scholars; an obligation.</p>
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