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		<title>By: Matthew Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/03/04/ricky_gervais_on_me_and_other_bad_comedy#comment-208646</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not &quot;my video&quot;, it seems to be by the son or daughter of someone with ME, hence the &quot;get well soon Mum&quot; bit at the end. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;my video&#8221;, it seems to be by the son or daughter of someone with ME, hence the &#8220;get well soon Mum&#8221; bit at the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A horribly irritating video.. &#039;It&#039;s no laughing matter&#039;, then presumably you&#039;ve never laughed at anything involving illness, war, race, addiction, or any other subject that has damaged people? Because obviously if you have that would make you painfully hypocritical. 

I am an ME sufferer and have been for 3 years and people like you do us no favours at all, this type of blinkered self indulgent bullshit is exactly the manner in which we&#039;re portrayed in the media. If someone can come over and make me laugh, even if it is about my illness, I&#039;d take that any day of the week over your embarrassing, patronising &#039;give them a hug&#039; ideas.

Were Ricky Gervais&#039;s jokes cheap? Yes. Is this video any better? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A horribly irritating video.. &#8216;It&#8217;s no laughing matter&#8217;, then presumably you&#8217;ve never laughed at anything involving illness, war, race, addiction, or any other subject that has damaged people? Because obviously if you have that would make you painfully hypocritical. </p>

<p>I am an ME sufferer and have been for 3 years and people like you do us no favours at all, this type of blinkered self indulgent bullshit is exactly the manner in which we&#8217;re portrayed in the media. If someone can come over and make me laugh, even if it is about my illness, I&#8217;d take that any day of the week over your embarrassing, patronising &#8216;give them a hug&#8217; ideas.</p>

<p>Were Ricky Gervais&#8217;s jokes cheap? Yes. Is this video any better? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivizara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivizara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps ATB would care to share with us the details of the medical qualifications he/she has and the scientific study they have carried out to ascertain that ME sufferers are &quot;falsely claiming&quot; to have the condition?  I would be interested in the specific tests carried out and the number of people involved in the study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps ATB would care to share with us the details of the medical qualifications he/she has and the scientific study they have carried out to ascertain that ME sufferers are &#8220;falsely claiming&#8221; to have the condition?  I would be interested in the specific tests carried out and the number of people involved in the study.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To ATB:

I can&#039;t think of any incident in which an &quot;ME sufferer&quot; is known to have taken their family for a ride by pretending to be ill. Not one. In fact, people who pretend to be ill usually do so for money, or they seek sympathy from real sufferers by pretending in online forums (as noted in [a recent story in the Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/26/faking-illness-online-munchausen)). On the other hand, I know of quite a number of people who have been seriously ill with ME for years, often since childhood or early adolescence, and in most cases they had no reason to prefer being ill to their former (often very happy and active) lives. You would think that someone would get bored with this after a while, wouldn&#039;t you? 

The reason cancer or heart disease patients do not &quot;go ballistic&quot; is because nobody claims that cancer or heart disease are not real illnesses. People with ME often find that doctors disbelieve them even when they are very obviously very ill. This is why they are sensitive about it. As for the comment about the &quot;king&#039;s jester&quot;, there is a big difference between jokes at the expense of the rich and powerful and those at the expense of the poor and the sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ATB:</p>

<p>I can&#8217;t think of any incident in which an &#8220;ME sufferer&#8221; is known to have taken their family for a ride by pretending to be ill. Not one. In fact, people who pretend to be ill usually do so for money, or they seek sympathy from real sufferers by pretending in online forums (as noted in <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/26/faking-illness-online-munchausen">a recent story in the Guardian</a>). On the other hand, I know of quite a number of people who have been seriously ill with ME for years, often since childhood or early adolescence, and in most cases they had no reason to prefer being ill to their former (often very happy and active) lives. You would think that someone would get bored with this after a while, wouldn&#8217;t you? </p>

<p>The reason cancer or heart disease patients do not &#8220;go ballistic&#8221; is because nobody claims that cancer or heart disease are not real illnesses. People with ME often find that doctors disbelieve them even when they are very obviously very ill. This is why they are sensitive about it. As for the comment about the &#8220;king&#8217;s jester&#8221;, there is a big difference between jokes at the expense of the rich and powerful and those at the expense of the poor and the sick.</p>
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		<title>By: ATB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comedians have a serious function. Not just to make people laugh, but to spark awareness of social ills, of something that is wrong, but that we acccept as normal. The &quot;king&#039;s fool&quot; that could get away with saying anything to the king, even conveying some unpleasant truths, because he made the king laugh.

It is a crying shame that Ricky Gervais was shouted down rather than opening the debate on the abuse of people&#039;s trust and compassion and, frequently, elderly people who can ill afford it by people pretending to have ME.

Why do heart or cancer patients or sufferers of severe depression not go ballistic whenever it becomes known that some hypochondriac had falsely claimed to suffer a heart attack, depression or some form of cancer? This behaviour of ME patients seems to be unique to their condition.

Usually we have little compassion for the victims of fraud, because usually they were expecting to get something out of it, drawn into the scam through some flaw of their own, whether greed or acute stupidity.

However, the victims of people who falsely claim to have ME, were duped because they were compassionate and trusting: elderly parents, caring friends, whose every last drop of sympathy and compassion is squeezed out over years to offer free accommodation and a free pass in everything because oh-oh, stress worsens the condition. The patient must be relieved of all stress: no work, no normal interaction with people (which would involve telling someone when he&#039;s behaved badly) to avoid stress.
Lets get some awareness and education going to prevent/reduce this kind of abuse of parents, family and friends. All the ME awareness campaigns enjoin people to &quot;believe them, support them&quot;. Pity Ricky Gervais was shouted down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comedians have a serious function. Not just to make people laugh, but to spark awareness of social ills, of something that is wrong, but that we acccept as normal. The &#8220;king&#8217;s fool&#8221; that could get away with saying anything to the king, even conveying some unpleasant truths, because he made the king laugh.</p>

<p>It is a crying shame that Ricky Gervais was shouted down rather than opening the debate on the abuse of people&#8217;s trust and compassion and, frequently, elderly people who can ill afford it by people pretending to have ME.</p>

<p>Why do heart or cancer patients or sufferers of severe depression not go ballistic whenever it becomes known that some hypochondriac had falsely claimed to suffer a heart attack, depression or some form of cancer? This behaviour of ME patients seems to be unique to their condition.</p>

<p>Usually we have little compassion for the victims of fraud, because usually they were expecting to get something out of it, drawn into the scam through some flaw of their own, whether greed or acute stupidity.</p>

<p>However, the victims of people who falsely claim to have ME, were duped because they were compassionate and trusting: elderly parents, caring friends, whose every last drop of sympathy and compassion is squeezed out over years to offer free accommodation and a free pass in everything because oh-oh, stress worsens the condition. The patient must be relieved of all stress: no work, no normal interaction with people (which would involve telling someone when he&#8217;s behaved badly) to avoid stress.
Lets get some awareness and education going to prevent/reduce this kind of abuse of parents, family and friends. All the ME awareness campaigns enjoin people to &#8220;believe them, support them&#8221;. Pity Ricky Gervais was shouted down.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 18 and have suffered from ME for four years and use a wheelchair and i found his stand up hilarious. What you fail to mention is that he said after these jokes that he knows that it is a horrible illness that thousands suffer from.
It is just a joke it wasn&#039;t a personal slate and he didn&#039;t call us liars just a gag. I find it ridiculous how people find this stand up was so awful, i&#039;ve missed out on education, being able to work and often have to have just getting washed and dressed but it was just a funny joke he is after all a comedian and extremely successful, i have every DVD and seen him live after this joke and it doesn&#039;t bother me in the slightest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 18 and have suffered from ME for four years and use a wheelchair and i found his stand up hilarious. What you fail to mention is that he said after these jokes that he knows that it is a horrible illness that thousands suffer from.
It is just a joke it wasn&#8217;t a personal slate and he didn&#8217;t call us liars just a gag. I find it ridiculous how people find this stand up was so awful, i&#8217;ve missed out on education, being able to work and often have to have just getting washed and dressed but it was just a funny joke he is after all a comedian and extremely successful, i have every DVD and seen him live after this joke and it doesn&#8217;t bother me in the slightest!</p>
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		<title>By: Nerja Apartments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerja Apartments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricky Gervais&#039; brand of humour isn&#039;t an obvious one, you have to think about it so therefore it is not suitable for everyone. I enjoyed &quot;The Office&quot; and the recent &quot;An Idiot Abroad&quot; where he played a cameo role but his latest stand up was poor in comparison. He should stick to what he is best at satirical sitcoms in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky Gervais&#8217; brand of humour isn&#8217;t an obvious one, you have to think about it so therefore it is not suitable for everyone. I enjoyed &#8220;The Office&#8221; and the recent &#8220;An Idiot Abroad&#8221; where he played a cameo role but his latest stand up was poor in comparison. He should stick to what he is best at satirical sitcoms in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2010/03/04/ricky_gervais_on_me_and_other_bad_comedy#comment-48283</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 19:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny it is not Ricky!!! Come and see someone with ME struggling through each day. The video is very moving and says what needs to be said. This is a terrible disease that will one day be acknowledged by everyone for what it is devastating however, at the moment there are only a few that know and believe it, we will keep doing so. We will help and support and hug our loved one to keep them going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny it is not Ricky!!! Come and see someone with ME struggling through each day. The video is very moving and says what needs to be said. This is a terrible disease that will one day be acknowledged by everyone for what it is devastating however, at the moment there are only a few that know and believe it, we will keep doing so. We will help and support and hug our loved one to keep them going.</p>
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		<title>By: Tychy@ the Fringe: Only One Wing. &#171; Tychy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tychy@ the Fringe: Only One Wing. &#171; Tychy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the disorder amongst medical people. At one point the fairies even scold Ricky Gervais for his jokes about M.E. being the preserve of Western malingerers. To insist upon compassion for those suffering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] about the disorder amongst medical people. At one point the fairies even scold Ricky Gervais for his jokes about M.E. being the preserve of Western malingerers. To insist upon compassion for those suffering [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternative comedy began to avoid the old jokes that made victims of stereotypes. Now the victims have changed from mothers-in-law, Irish etc to ME and dyslexia sufferers, rape victims and other previously taboo subjects. Even God! On a tv show &quot;comedy roasting&quot; where comics make fun of the guest of honour, a female victim of child abuse was told she was so ugly she should be grateful that someone had sex with her. The audience was in hysterics.

Ricky Gervaise is showing his true colours now. He loves &quot;persuading&quot; a friend to allow himself to be tied up with sellotape and laughing hysterically while doing it. He even uses his appearance on Comic Relief to ridicule the programme&#039;s efforts and promote his latest dvd. People laugh because they think he&#039;s joking.

Sadly, so much tv now is devoted to ridiculing and humiliating the participants. Jerry Springer, Weakest Link, Big Brother etc. Let&#039;s have a &quot;secret camera&quot; show where comics are hauled up before TV bosses and told they are being banned from TV because of their offensive humour. 

School bullies pick on students who are &quot;different&quot;. Others join in so as not to be associated with the victim. Do you remember the insulting words? Fatty, skinny, beanpole, short\*\*\*, 4 eyes, pizzaface, braceface, badbreath and so on. Did you notice? We all fall in to one of those categories! So we may escape today but there&#039;s always tomorrow.

There&#039;s an old quotation from Nazi Germany. &quot;When they came for the Jews, I did nothing. When they came for the gypsies and the disabled, I did nothing. When they came for me, there was nobody left to help me.&quot;

It&#039;s time to educate the masses that tomorrow they could be on the receiving end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative comedy began to avoid the old jokes that made victims of stereotypes. Now the victims have changed from mothers-in-law, Irish etc to ME and dyslexia sufferers, rape victims and other previously taboo subjects. Even God! On a tv show &#8220;comedy roasting&#8221; where comics make fun of the guest of honour, a female victim of child abuse was told she was so ugly she should be grateful that someone had sex with her. The audience was in hysterics.</p>

<p>Ricky Gervaise is showing his true colours now. He loves &#8220;persuading&#8221; a friend to allow himself to be tied up with sellotape and laughing hysterically while doing it. He even uses his appearance on Comic Relief to ridicule the programme&#8217;s efforts and promote his latest dvd. People laugh because they think he&#8217;s joking.</p>

<p>Sadly, so much tv now is devoted to ridiculing and humiliating the participants. Jerry Springer, Weakest Link, Big Brother etc. Let&#8217;s have a &#8220;secret camera&#8221; show where comics are hauled up before TV bosses and told they are being banned from TV because of their offensive humour. </p>

<p>School bullies pick on students who are &#8220;different&#8221;. Others join in so as not to be associated with the victim. Do you remember the insulting words? Fatty, skinny, beanpole, short***, 4 eyes, pizzaface, braceface, badbreath and so on. Did you notice? We all fall in to one of those categories! So we may escape today but there&#8217;s always tomorrow.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s an old quotation from Nazi Germany. &#8220;When they came for the Jews, I did nothing. When they came for the gypsies and the disabled, I did nothing. When they came for me, there was nobody left to help me.&#8221;</p>

<p>It&#8217;s time to educate the masses that tomorrow they could be on the receiving end.</p>
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