SF Chronicle cluelessness about Afghan paedophilia

Fareena Alam flagged up this article — Afghanistan’s dirty little secret — which is about the Pashtun custom known as bacha bazi, in which boys dress as girls and dance for grown men who then take them home and sexually abuse them. According to the article, when US soldiers kept noticing local men walking with young boys and behaving in ways unlikely for a father, they hired an investigator who came out with a report titled “Pashtun Sexuality”, the contents of which startled nobody in Afghanistan but appalled Western forces. Some research suggests that half of Pashtun “tribal members” in southern Afghanistan are involved.

These claims are nothing new — there was a documentary on the subject (on Channel 4) in this country a few months ago, and I have seen claims about such practices in tourist guidebooks (on Pakistan, I believe) — but what sticks out about this article is the ridiculous justification for the practice, which I don’t believe could possibly come from any Muslim:

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can’t even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

“How can you fall in love if you can’t see her face,” 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. “We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful.”

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: “Women are for children, boys are for pleasure.” Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are “unclean” and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli’s team “how his wife could become pregnant,” her report said. When that was explained, he “reacted with disgust” and asked, “How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?”

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It’s not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren’t in love with their boys.

Afghanistan is far from the only place where women cover their faces, and you get paedophilia everywhere but on nothing like this scale. Furthermore, people in Afghanistan marry young and they will have seen girls when growing up, so they will have some idea of how they will look as women. There is simply no possible Islamic justification for this: there are hadeeths about how devils follow “beardless youths”, i.e. boys of precisely the age of those involved in this custom, more than they follow women, and books by Deobandi scholars (and the Taliban were strongly influenced by the Deobandis in Pakistan) warning men against looking lustfully at boys.

The claim about a “biblical passage” obviously reflects the ignorance of the author. The Bible as it exists today has no relevance to Muslims, and its laws are not taken into account at all. What the Bible says about menstruation doesn’t apply to Muslims who get their law from the Qur’an and the Sunnah, which principally consists of the sayings of the Prophet (sall’ Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) and how they were acted on and interpreted by the early generations of Muslims. Muslims actually don’t regard menstruating women as unclean and, while they are barred from ritual activity, they are not prohibited from touching people or food, or from being touched, as they are in other religions such as Orthodox Judaism and some branches of Hinduism. It’s forbidden to have sex with a woman who currently has her period on, but it is not forbidden for her husband to touch or sleep with her during that time.

This could well be a custom that pre-dates Islam in that region — after all, similar customs existed in ancient Greece and are referred to in such texts as Plato’s Republic. I studied that at A-level and was puzzled by the lead character, named Socrates, talking about his companions being “bitten with a passion for boys in the bloom of youth” as if that was somehow normal. There is simply no way you can twist any Islamic text to show that it’s OK for a man to have sex with a young boy. It just isn’t.

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  • http://madandloud.com Maryam

    Asalamu alaykum wa Rahmatullah,

    I read your blog often and have “lurked” for quiet a while now.

    I hope you can clarify this sentence please since I think it may be a misspelling or you were thinking too fast whilst your fingers could not type fast enough so therefore there is a slight miscommunication.

    “It’s forbidden to have sex with a woman who currently has a period, but it is not forbidden for her husband to touch or sleep with her.”

    I don’t understand what you mean. Are you trying to say it is forbidden to sleep with women who are of menstrual age?

    I’m am very confident that what you actually meant was “it is forbidden to sleep with a woman WHILST she is on her period”

    but just in case I am wrong, could you clarify please since I’m sure lots of people read your blog and may get confused by that statement.

    Jazakallahu Khayran

  • http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/ Indigo Jo

    Maryam: “currently has a period” means being on. Obviously if menstrual age was meant, human reproduction would be impossible.

  • africana

    i have heard that it bacha bai became more prominrent during the war against the russians when it took on a more of an industry.

    the sheer hypocracy of the men, involved in this practise shown in the video was astounding.

  • africana

    “bacha bazi” should have said…

  • irumat

    It’s interesting that apparently when the Taliban were in power, they tried to stamp it out and punish this behaviour, perhaps hypocritically because it was alleged that many Taliban officials also participated in this practice.

    I remember reading an article in The Times a few years ago about this practice in which they quoted an Afghani who said (paraphrasing) “Under the Taliban, birds flew with both wings. But not any more.”

    (Article here: http://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/world/afghanistan/afnews007.htm)

  • http://madandloud.com Maryam

    Thank you Indigo Jo,

    I knew maybe I was reading it wrong no matter how many times I re read it.

    I also read about this subject and saw a part of the documentary on it.

    I was and still am so disgusted by the idea and excuses behind it that if i commented, I’d end up swearing! But to cut it short, Muslims and non Muslims working in those parts, must continue to put measures in place to stop it.

    Let’s admit it, it is child abuse of the most horrendous kind.

    But any way, I will go back to “lurking” and reading your blog. Maryam´s last [type] ..Qur’an

  • africana

    the video is actually called the dancing boys of afghanisatn and is available on more 4, possibly only to those in the uk. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan/4od

    on another note, just realised that in addition to bacha bazi, spelt the word hypocrisy incorrectly, also…arggh!

  • H

    The bit where it said:

    One married man even asked Cardinalli’s team “how his wife could become pregnant,” her report said. When that was explained, he “reacted with disgust” and asked, “How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?”

    The biggest pile of BS I’ve ever heard in my life. Anyone who believes that quote does not have a working brain.

  • africana

    there is certainly no basis for considering a woman unclean, by the fact that she has regular menstruation. the quran merely requires that a couple avoids the basic act of sexual intercourse during this time. that being said, there are many cultures worldwide where taboos against menstruating women exist and muslims, unless fully grounded in their religion will inevitably absorb some of the ideas from their cultural millieu.

    one paticualr concept, including amongst white non-mulsim britons, is the view that menstrual blood is extremely dirty. you find a similar view amongst in the middle east and south asia which i think is derived from the fact that it was, and continues to be used, in the black magic rituals which, though at odds with islam,are a sub-culture of many muslim countries, including saudi arabia.

  • Irony of Life

    Wow, SF Chronicle, from a city famous more for its Zionist population and affiliations than the golden gate bridge, with a story on how Paedophiles are destroying lives in Afghanistan. An article citing an official report by a hispanic Roman Catholic FBI employee and funded by the US defense department. An article showing how Paedophiles (not the indiscriminate aerial bombings and shootings of the invasion) are destroying lives in Afghanistan……..what exactly was the definition of propaganda again??? Thanks to the soldiers for picking up on this issue and for the US defense department for telling us all about it. Now, how many paedophiles are there again in the US? or the other Euro countries on the planet? The quoted figure I have seen in the press for the UK alone is 50,000 and I wouldnt be surprised if the real figure is 10 times higher. No lives being destroyed over here then I guess. And what are the reasons for paedophiles in say London or SF? Is Boris Johnson or Arnie using the Bible, telling the paedophiles not to “touch” women there?

  • Belal

    @ Irony, what are you saying exactly, that the paedophilia in Afghanistan doesn’t exist, or that it shouldn’t be reported since there is so much in the West, or that if it should be reported it shouldn’t be made to look so bad?

  • Irony of Life

    @Belal…you again..were’nt you pretending to be the morality police on another thread…..grow up please! If you have some sort of a problem understanding my posts then dwell on it a while.

  • Belal

    I didn’t mean to come across as hostile, my issue is that sometimes when a problem within the Muslim world is shown people prefer to respond by either pointing out that the problem exists in the western world as well (or in the culture of whoever promoted the issue) or that it doesn’t exist/is black propaganda. Some people will even defend it.

  • africana

    of course, there’s obviously a problem but i think what irony is is pointing to is the way in which social problems and oppression are politicised.think about the feigned concern for the rights of the women of afghanistanon the part of bush et al at the start of the afghan invasion.

    i would be happy to support the work of any organisation seeking to eradiacte “bacha bazi” but that still doesn’t mean i can’t see that some people use these injustices to popopogate their own theories about religion, in this case, islam.

  • Belal

    Yeah that was a fair point

  • Irony of Life

    Belal, I don’t mean to be harsh against you so give me the benefit if I have misread the intention of your posting above; but I think that Africana (Thanks) has pretty closely summarized my view. Also, for anyone who follows the teachings of the scriptures and the Quran especially, these things are despicable so whether it is a Muslim, Christian or Jew or anyone else for that matter, the same words and punishment apply if they commit such big sins. I hate to kill even a fly that enters my house, but people who commit such horrendous sins to children and orphans deserve a severe punishment in this world and the in the hereafter God will judge them.

    On top of the atrocity of the sin, is the fact that, as Africana has alluded to, the sound byte of the article in the SF chronicle and certainly the Defense Dept report is not about the crime, but is political and about the goodness of the invaders in an otherwise “evil land”. To fall into discussions that the invaders pitch to the populations back home about these issues, when ignoring the mass killings perpetrated by themselves, is plain and simple propaganda in my opinion.

  • http://www.salafimanhaj.com AbdulHaq al-Ashanti

    Then people wonder why some prefer the Taliban than the current regime!

    Bring back the Taliban at this rate!