Sweden: exposing Sharia and rape myths

Swedish elections: The impact of immigration | World news | The Guardian

This is an article about the rise of the “Sweden Democrats”, a far-right party which has been increasing its share of the vote in its country over the past couple of years and looks likely to get seats in Parliament fairly soon. That is worth reading in itself, but there are also some myths that are popular in the right-wing press and blogosphere about how Muslims are “taking over” Sweden, as well as their supposed fondness for raping white Swedish women:

A 2008 government report, which drew entirely on the experiences of teachers, police and social workers, described a place where Islamic orthodoxy was enforced by young thugs; women were forced to wear headscarves and children segregated in religious free schools. There was a small riot after one of the 20 or 30 unofficial mosques in cellars was closed when its lease was not renewed, and nastier riots when the Israeli tennis team played a Davis Cup match in the city last summer.

But this isn’t Beirut or Baltimore. It isn’t even Tower Hamlets. I was told at Lund University that a foreign graduate student who lived in Rosengård for a couple of years couldn’t understand why anyone would call it a ghetto. He came from Liverpool. Certainly, I can’t think of another slum in Europe that has broad, well-signposted cycle paths on which stately middle-aged women in headscarves pedal their groceries home.

The houses are for the most part low blocks arranged in squares around playgrounds, on a familiar Swedish model. Even in Herrgården, where there are a few boarded-up windows, the play areas are clean and well-maintained.

And about those rape statistics …

In another publicity stunt, the party released a report claiming to prove, from government statistics, that immigrants were five times more likely than native Swedes to be convicted of rape. What the statistics actually show is that they are five times as likely to be investigated for rape, but experts point out that this may be due in part to racism in the criminal justice system, and that the absolute numbers are very small: when the Sweden Democrats claimed that 10% of the rapists convicted in their survey were Iraqi, they were talking about 12 men. If 0.04% of native Swedes are investigated for rape in one year, the corresponding figure for immigrants is 0.22%.

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  • africana

    i never got the impression of sweden being ghettoised in the same way as some places. the other interesting thing about sweden, i came across, is that the somali’s there are supposed to do well at school unlike in britain. i couldn’t find the article, though.

  • Mitsurugi

    Salaam,

    The article mentions that in certain areas of Malmo where there are high numbers of immigrants, unemployment runs from 30-90%. I’ve talked to both native Swedes and and also Somalis of Swedish nationality who moved to London, and everyone told me that it can be very difficult for immigrants to find anything other than menial work in Sweden due to having a ‘foreign-sounding’ name. Starting a business can also be difficult because of excessive regulation. I don’t think this is limited to Sweden. That’s why a lot of Somalis who were educated in Sweden, Norway, Holland etc. and have EU citizenship moved to London.

  • Irony of Life

    The Sweden Democrats are a bit of a joke in Sweden as the majority of Swedes proactively detest them. Sweden is not a zNazi, racist or Islamophobic society like Britain or Denmark or France, infact it is widely accepted in Sweden that even more immigration is needed for the Swedish economy as there are so many jobs that the Swedes wouldnt do or dont have the labour to do.
    Any racism and islamophobia in Malmo comes from accross the bridge that connects Malmo with Copenhagen in Denmark. The Danish have senior politicians and media that are extreme zNazis and extreme in their views on Islam and they are spreading their message of hate and intolerance over the border and over the bridge to Malmo. Again, it is not a conincidence that there is a high presence of zNazis in Copenhagen and the fact that Mossad EU HQ is also based there. It was apparent in the headline last week about the “Muslim” terrorist that caused an explosion near the area to the newspaper that printed the Islamophobic cartoons. The terrorist by the way actually had connections to the Russian FSB installed dictator in Chechnya. Incidentally it is now ascertained that Fleming Rose the cultural editor of Jyllands-Posten who actually comissioned the cartoon is a Ukranian born Jew who converted to Christianity and has connections to Mossad and is residing in Miami - protected by the Jewish mafia there.
    Infact the chief editor of the Danish paper Politiken was also proven to be working for Mossad too. My point is that Copenhagen has been taken over by Mossad (not Muslims as they would have us believe) and they are orchestrating their attacks on Islam and Muslims from their EU HQ there. They are providing inflammatory false intelligence to the few Swedish Elk-herds and out of work graduates of the Sweden Democrats to raise Islamophobia there too. Its not going to work. Swedes are tolerant and a good and accepting people. Society sucks, but I think the best form of defence is to be like Abraham the upright in our behaviour and slowly these elk-herds will see that we are not the problem but the the conspirators in Copenhagen.

  • M Risbrook: I don’t know, but fascists tend to want to control kids’ education. The law of compulsory school attendance in Germany was brought in by Hitler, not the post-war welfare state.

  • M Risbrook

    Does anybody know what the Sweden Democrat’s policy is on home education? The Swedish government outlawed home education earlier this year although the law will not come into force until next year. If the Sweden Democrats propose to legalise home education then they are likely to win support from the Swedish home education community.

  • Irony of Life

    The Sweden Democrat’s “policy” on home education is ……wait for it……”Muslims out!” and “less immigration”. As is their “policy” on just about everything else - which also adds to the whole aura of them being a nasty joke of a party. It is not intended to be a party of “policies”. It is intended to be a party of ONE “policy”. It is meant to be a pain in the neck to the mainstream parties by goading and taking a few votes so that the main parties are hijacked into changing their policies on immigration and “appeasment” to Muslims - straight out of the zNazi handbook.

  • M Risbrook

    Sweden Democrats now have 20 MPs in a hung parliament. Something Mr Gri££in can only dream of for Westminster.

  • Irony of Life

    Interesting that it has been noted the neo-zNazi Sweden Democrats pulled in their voters from the existing centre-right alliance.

    This may suggest a deeper syndrome in Europe: the shift to the extreme right that we see may come from the populist leaders pandering to extreme-right agendas ie by using the false immigration card and security (note: Sarkozy, Blair, Berlusconi to name just the usual suspects of many).

    Take Britain: there is a rise in EDL and BNP support (despite their bad election results). This in the backdrop of false terrorist incidents, Jonathan evans scare mongering, immigration caps.

    Its known that more than 80% of immigration into the UK is from Europe and especially Eastern Europe, but the UK (and others EU countries) focuses its traditionally colour-sensitive eyesight on the non-European entrants. I think it all comes down to bigotry at the end of the day, and when “responsible” politicians pander to this bigotry then the bigots hunger and sentiment is inflamed and they want more; more can only be delivered by a non-mainstream party, or as in most cases in Europe, by the zNazi’s and the other extremists. I wouldnt be surprised if these extremist parties are not being exploited by external funding, mainly from the extremist circles in the US.

    There is also the fact that the rural comunities in Europe are the ones pushing the extreme-right agenda and this may be because of their perceptions about the cultural gap between the rural communities and the cities. As a village dweller myself, I can see that if this issue is not addressed, then this whole right-wing drama will continue.

  • M Risbrook

    Interesting that it has been noted the neo-zNazi Sweden Democrats pulled in their voters from the existing centre-right alliance.

    It doesn’t surprise me. Back in 2003 the BNP appeared to be pulling in its voters from those who traditionally voted Conservative more than those who traditionally voted Labour. For many years I have been saying that there’s a working class Conservative vote base that’s different from the middle class Conservative vote base and it is receptive to populist policies.

    As a village dweller myself, I can see that if this issue is not addressed, then this whole right-wing drama will continue.

    White flight to villages under the NuLab government hasn’t received the publicity it should have. In the 2010 general election the BNP fielded many candidates for rural and shire constituencies with a high proportion of white flight residents and got reasonably good results in some of them.

    People want to live in nice areas and they fear that rural and suburban areas will be ruined by immigrants and ethnics like the bigger cities have been.

    The only solution to stopping the rise of populists is for ethnics and immigrants to leave the country, and therefore, reduce the demand for such parties and movements. The average Joe will then rapidly return to the political establishment.

  • Irony of Life

    I have often heard the extremists response of sending back “ethnics and immigrants”. But what these extremists fail to realize is that a lot of ethnics are British (cf:”A community of Comunities” report on Ethnic Jews in Britain).

    Where would the extremists suggest that the Ethnic jews be sent “back” to when they are now British.
    Ok, granted some could be sent to Israel especially those with dual passports and those who have served in the violent murderous organisations like the IDF, but not all ethnics are murderous. Further, lets take the another large band of immigrants; the Eastern European immigrants which represent the bulk of recent immigrants to Britain - how could we possibly ask these people to return to Europe. We would be no better than the Ethnic zNazi Sarkozy who has been reprimanded by the EU as well as globally - not however by the left-foot-first snooty politician of boyish IQ, Cameron. An alternative and more just solution would be to create Reserves in places like Manchester, Essex and North London for native-extremists - reserves like the ones created for native Americans in the US. The average extremist could then create its own politics within the reserves and we the responsible population could keep an eye on them.

  • M Risbrook

    But what these extremists fail to realize is that a lot of ethnics are British

    British by jus soli, yes. British by jus sanguinus, no. Many liberals fail to realise that it is perfectly possible for a nation to change its citizenship laws from a system of jus soli to jus sanguinus.

    Where would the extremists suggest that the Ethnic jews be sent “back” to when they are now British.

    Ethnic is defined by race and not religion. Therefore black Jews can go and move to Africa, Chinese Jews to China etc.

    how could we possibly ask these people to return to Europe. We would be no better than the Ethnic zNazi Sarkozy who has been reprimanded by the EU as well as globally

    Withdraw from the EU and take back control of our borders.

  • Irony of Life

    It is deplorable, racist, Hitlerian and unwarranted to make calls for mass deportations of Jewish people and others out of Britain.

    As a Brit, I would call for, and indeed welcome with open arms, more Jewish people as permanent residents to Britain, especially those from Israel.

  • Irony of Life

    M Risbrook, are you a racist or do you also not like Muslims and Jews? Or all the above? I just wanted some clarification. I have really pondered a lot about your apparent obsession with Mulsims from reading your horrible postings.

  • M Risbrook

    I have really pondered a lot about your apparent obsession with Mulsims from reading your horrible postings.

    My postings may not be to everybody’s tastes but I have previously made it clear that I have nothing at all against Islam and I am in personal contact with several Muslims.

  • Irony of Life

    Well, thankyou for at least some of the answer.

    Is it correct to conclude from some of the above posts that racism is something that attracts you? Or is it Nationalism, with racism being a by-product?

    And is this why you are against the United States of Europe?

    It would be easier to debate knowing about the racism issue.

  • M Risbrook

    Is it correct to conclude from some of the above posts that racism is something that attracts you? Or is it Nationalism, with racism being a by-product?

    I am a nationalist who openly admits that there are far too many ethnics in Britain and the majority of them are poor quality people who do not benefit Britain. I don’t hide any skeletons in the closet unlike some people who post comments here.

    And is this why you are against the United States of Europe?

    There are many reasons why I am against the EU and its project to create the United States of Europe. I will also make it clear that pan European nationalists exist including those who wish to effectively rebuild the Roman Empire with a 100% white population.

  • Irony of Life

    M Risbook,

    You have mentioned that Ethnic = Race and that you are against Ethnics in Britain.

    Are you for a White Britain like the BNP and EDL? If so, then are you the only EDL/BNP supporter who doesn’t hold the hate-view on Muslims? Or perhaps you do?

    I am still wondering about your obsession with Muslims - do you have relatives who have converted to Islam?

    You state that most ethnics (or non-whites by your logic) are not contributing to Britain and are poor, and you allude to this being your reason for deporting them out of Britain.

    Where would you deport the British non-white people and would you also deport the poor white people who are not contributing to Britain?

    Also, the senior Jews in Britain have discussed being officially called “Ethnics” so would you deport these Ethnics to Miami, SanFran, Eastern Europe and Germany? Or do you exclude certain “Ethincs” from your logic?

  • M Risbrook

    Are you for a White Britain like the BNP and EDL? If so, then are you the only EDL/BNP supporter who doesn’t hold the hate-view on Muslims? Or perhaps you do?

    The BNP abandoned its policy of compulsory repatriation of non-white people ten years ago. The EDL have been committed to a multiracial Britain from the outset and have many non-white members. I really wish people would do their research.

    I am neither a supporter of the BNP nor the EDL.

    Where would you deport the British non-white people and would you also deport the poor white people who are not contributing to Britain?

    Under jus sanguinus nationality laws most non-white people born in Britain are eligible for citizenship of the country of their origin and will be given passports for that country on request providing they can prove (by birth certificates, passports, ID cards etc.) that their parents or grandparents originated from the country in question.

    Matters relating to the long term unemployed white British underclass are a completely different issue and is outside of the scope of this discussion.

    Also, the senior Jews in Britain have discussed being officially called “Ethnics” so would you deport these Ethnics to Miami, SanFran, Eastern Europe and Germany? Or do you exclude certain “Ethincs” from your logic?

    Why did you bring Jews into the discussion? There is no mention of them in the original article. I’m getting the impression that you are trying to plant a red herring to get a response you want.

  • africana

    @m. risbrook,

    “The BNP abandoned its policy of compulsory repatriation of non-white people ten years ago. The EDL have been committed to a multiracial Britain from the outset and have many non-white members. I really wish people would do their research.”

    oh, surely you don’t mean oor abdul salaam of glasgow? in this video, which would be hilarious if it wasn’t true, abdul salaam tries desperately to defend the edl against claims that it is a racist organisation whilst another edl himself openly admits to, er, being a racist. well,fancy that!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBT9aoeXdWM&p=28E5332F7579B5D3&playnext=1&index=12

  • africana

    and, it would seem that not even people of irish catholc descent are spared the ire of the edl.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kL_URt4uo&feature=related

  • Irony of Life

    M Risrook,

    You state:

    “Why did you bring Jews into the discussion? There is no mention of them in the original article. I’m getting the impression that you are trying to plant a red herring to get a response you want.”

    Yet, M Risbrook, you had no problem referring to Jews in another context above, which I will requote you on:

    “Ethnic is defined by race and not religion. Therefore black Jews can go and move to Africa, Chinese Jews to China etc.”

    Having cleared that up, I am surprised that you feel sensitive to talking about the ethnic status (or not) of jews when you feel like it.

    Does the red herring aspect mean that you are a Jew? If so do you feel embarrassed about it? Also the fact that you have mentioined deporting ethnic jews to other countries is strange; are you one of those self-hating Jews?

    Besides, it is very important that we discuss Immigration, Race, Ethnicity as it has everything to do with Jews and immigration policies of extremist parties all around Europe. It wasnt that long ago that Jews were being persecuted for being foreign agents in many countries in Europe. I hope this discussion is not turning up the heat for your and I really hope you dont desert the discussion as you have done on other threads. It is important that we discuss aspects that we like as well as the ones we (and particularly you) dont like. It would be a hypocrisy for you to come on a Muslim website and act rich about immigration in regard to non-whites if it happens that you yourself have origins of an immigrant to our country. That would only mean that your positioning along right wing lines is due to a craving and desire to be less of an immigrant. I hope that is not too harsh for you and you continue to partake in this discussion.

    PS: The EDL is indeed racist as is the BNP - I really wish people would open their eyes.

  • Lol did you hear the man at the end of the video?

  • That was brilliant! “There’s always one thick Asian in every Right organisation.” Quite right.

    Sadly, I’ve had to close the comments on this entry as the topic was getting diverted.

    Thanks Maryam though.

  • Africana: I find Scottish sectarianism really quite depressing. This so-called Muslim repeating things he heard local Protestant goons say which they themselves got from riff-raff in Northern Ireland, when whatever happens in Northern Ireland will make no difference to Scotland. It’s ridiculous.

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